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ZBA Hearing - May 28, 2025

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)May 28, 20257h 56m

I vote yes with provisos.

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Trash stored in rear yard for first floor, trash stored on the balcony for the second floor, no household living in the basement, certificate of occupancy to be obtained.

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Senator DeGray, my vote is yes with proviso.

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Tyowin, my vote is yes with provisos.

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Ishmael Shaheed, my vote is yes with proviso.

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And number three, MI 2024-004-944-2823-25 West Somerset Street.

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The vote in this matter has been rescheduled to Wednesday, June 4th at 2 p.m.

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We're going to go to our regular list.

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We're going to start with number 12.

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MI 2025.

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MI-2025-000627, 1911 Wallen Street.

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Catherine Misner is the attorney.

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We have non-opposition from Center City Residence

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and non-opposition from Council Member Squilla.

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Young, I'm sorry.

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hi could you please state your name and spell for the sonographer

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you might want to get a little closer to pull towards you a little bit more better it works

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yeah thank you katherine missimer it's m-i-s-s-i-m-e-r 1835 market street suite 1400

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one nine one zero three do you swear or firm to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but

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the truth i do could you identify your client the relationship to this property absolutely

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representing 1911 walnut street llc owner of the property located at 1909 walnut commercial unit

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number one part of the property formerly known as 1907 to 15 walnut which is part of the unity

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of use with 1911 walnut 1904 40 stansom street and 1915 to 17 walnut street our vice chair will

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try to reply to that. I did inform board counsel of the complex addressing, but I did want to put

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it on the record. Thank you. Absolutely. Good afternoon, counsel. Do you agree to waive the

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reading of the refusal or stipulate to its accuracy? I do. Have you emailed in all the

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required documents and exhibits that's needed to proceed with this case five days in advance

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of this hearing? Yes, sir. I have. Thank you. Please proceed. Great. Thank you. As mentioned,

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I'm here today on behalf of 1911 Walnut Street LLC with a proposal for two projecting signs

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for its tenant in that location. This is part of the Laurel Building, which I'm sure you're

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all familiar with, that stretches along both Walnut and Sansom Streets from roughly 19th to

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20th Street. With me today, I have owner's representative Brian Emmons, tenant representative

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luba sentatrova as well as our sign contractor jeff carson as you can see this this project

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does have a letter of non-opposition from both the coordinating rco ccra as well as councilman

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young's office and we also have art commission approval which is required for projecting signs

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in this location many of you are probably familiar oh i should mention we also have a petition of

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support from many of our residents in this vicinity. This is the art

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commission approval. As you know, part of this overlay does require

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them to opine on projecting signage in this location. So we did

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complete that process in advance. Those of you that are familiar

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with the Laurel know that it is a high rise residential condominium.

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It has apartment units, it has affordable housing, it has

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commercial spaces and restaurants. One of the tenants on floors two to three is Equinox Fitness.

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This gym will be the first, will be open to the public, and will be the flagship location for

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Equinox here in Philadelphia. This is the first location, and their hope is obviously to expand

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here in our region. As new to Philadelphia, they hope to build a following here. As you can see,

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I want to show you the elevation just to understand, you know, sort of the depth of

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the building here because this is a very large building and I think it really speaks to the size

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that we're proposing for this signage. If you look at this elevation, this is the building

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and these two tiny red dots at the second floor are the two proposed signs. So the building itself

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is massive and the signage is on the podium of the building at the base in green and blue this is

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where the equinox space is within that podium you'll note that it's largely the second floor

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and the third floor and if you see to the right of your screen that is the proposed signage there

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on the second floor in front of the windows of the space there is a small lobby space on the

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first floor, but again, the bulk of the space for this tenant is the second and third floor.

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Some interior photos of the gym, and this is a good view in a rendering of what the signs would

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look like in place. The first is here, and the second is further down the building. You'll note

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that there are floor-to-ceiling windows at the second floor. You'll be able to see workout

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equipment if you've walked past that you can see the treadmills there and it's really vital to have

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important signage in this location because not knowing that this is an equinox space

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because not knowing that this is an equinox space you may assume that's an amenity for the residents

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you may assume that's an amenity for the rest

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in the building rather than a publicly accessible gym that you don't necessarily need to live on

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site to join the proposed signage with one projecting sign on sansum and the other flanking

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the space on 20th is designed to really highlight equinox presence as well as identify its physical

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location again at that second and third floor within the building as a result proposed signage

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do create a refusal because in cmx4 signs are not permitted to be above the second floor windowsill

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again you can see the positioning is designed right at the actual physical space in the building

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you'll note that there are other tenants on that first floor so it would be confusing to put an

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equinox sign on the first floor in front of say a restaurant or a retail space that makes up

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another part of the building as part of the art commission review process we did

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make alterations to our proposed signs originally originally they were much

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larger and they were proposed at the third floor we've dropped them to the

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second floor and shrunk them in size to really be proportionate with other signs

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in the neighborhood and we have a few of those renderings just to highlight what

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some of the existing signage looks like you know there are other projecting

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signs already in place of similar size and character our sleek and aesthetic view is really

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back halo lit it won't be impactful you'll note there are also trees along the first floor that

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may block signage that would be at the first floor level so the second floor really does feel

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appropriate in this location and again this is the nighttime view you'll see that they are lit

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it's this location here um very hard to see in comparison to some of the other signs that are

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already there and are lit um both the neighborhood as had been evidenced by their letter of non

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opposition and the proper unit agree the proposal is appropriate given the surrounding context that's

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already in place here um the proposed signs identify the presence of equinox at the laurel

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and its location for in the building for pedestrians and vehicles that are traveling

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both up sansa and 20th street the scale size and design are consistent with the aesthetic of the

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neighborhood they're tastefully simple and sleek we met with CCRA to review the

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proposal you have their letter of non-opposition we do believe this will

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not alter the central character of the neighborhood as evidenced by that letter

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it will not impair appropriate use or development of adjacent property again

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it's consistent with already exists in the space and this section of the city

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we do not believe will be detrimental to the public welfare as evidenced by those

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letters of non-opposition and that petition of support as a result we would respectfully request

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that the board grant this and any other necessary relief for this proposal would you want to bring

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your client on yes please uh brian emmons should be in the audience the virtual audience yes okay

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apologies

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they've been promoted to panelists sir could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer

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good afternoon my name is brian emmons b-r-i-a-n-e-m-m-o-n-s do you swear we're

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referring to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth i do please proceed counsel

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brian have you heard my testimony today i have would you agree that it's true and correct

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i do thank you questions for the board

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questions or comments from our attorney mr mcsherry uh no chair questions or comments

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from the audience or the virtual audience i do not see any hands mr chair any commission

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amy boy with the planning commission this proposal completed its art commission review in november

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2024 the civic design reviews committee's advisory recommendations are not an expression of the city

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planning commission's recommendation or opinion regarding zoning variances or special exceptions

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or any other discretion or approvals associated with the proposal the comprehensive plan recommends

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no change in zoning from the existing cmx for commercial mixed use the appellant has not

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demonstrated that there are unique physical conditions or circumstances of the property

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that would prevent it from being used in conformance with the zoning code the planning commission

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recommends that the board deny the requested variance for sign height placement. Thank you.

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MI 2025, 0006271911, Walnut Street, my vote yes. Michael Johns, my vote is yes.

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Cheryl Gaston, my vote is yes. Senator Graham, my vote is yes.

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Iowyn, my vote is yes. Ishmael Shahid, my vote is yes. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it.

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Thank you.

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Number 15, MI 2025, 000831, 5600 West Gerard Avenue.

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Darwin Bovee is the attorney. Cheryl L. Gaston has recused herself from this case.

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Darwin Beauvais is the attorney.

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Cheryl L. Gaston has recused herself.

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Oh, man. What do you mean, oh, man?

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Mr. Chairman, members of the board, it's always good to see you. My name is Darwin Bovee. I'm at

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1500 Market Street at the law firm of Obermeyer, and I represent the applicant,

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vine memorial church just just for the record could you spell your last name for the court

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stenographer that bouvet is spelled b-e-a-u-v-a-i-s do you swear or affirm to tell the truth

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the whole truth and nothing but the truth i do our vice chair has a few questions for you sir

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have at it good afternoon counsel do you agree to wait to read another refusal or stipulate

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to his accuracy i did have you emailed in all the required documents and exhibits that's needed to

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receive in this case five days in advance of this hearing? I have. Thank you. Please proceed

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and share your screen. Okay. I am not the most

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technical person, so if you can bear with me for a moment.

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It shows that I'm on.

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Oh, there we go.

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well while this is loading up you know um members of the board

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let's see i can start showing sharing uh before you is an application on behalf of vine memorial

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Church, which is a long-standing institution located at 5600 West Girard Avenue.

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The church is seeking zoning relief to modernize signage to include an electronic message board

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and a building wall identification sign. The proposed signage will enhance communication

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with the community by enabling timely and visible updates about services events

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and public information now before you I did submit an exhibit packet 1 through

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15 where we include our refusal the deed tax clearance certificate the project

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information form, photographs of the church, site plan, renderings of our flat wall and

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monument sign, sections of the code, aerial view, support letter, et cetera, et cetera,

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petitions of support, and photos of our posting. So with all of that, just to give you some

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background, Vine Memorial Church occupies a significant corner at 56 and Girard Avenue.

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If you can look at our rendering, which is Exhibit 10, as you can see here, that's Girard

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Avenue and the corner is 56th Street. This church has served the community for decades and this

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application is part of their broader efforts to maintain its presence and relevance in the

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changing neighborhood context. I have with me here today Pastor Blanks. He'll come up later,

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make a few comments but i also have in a virtual audience beth pile from casey signs who's also

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here to answer questions now with respects to our refusal we did receive three use refusals

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two for exceeding the maximum area and one for having an animation illuminating sign now in

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support of our application i would like the board to look at the exhibit seven

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And this, in essence, covers our application as soon as I can reduce.

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Okay, so before the board, here is an exhibit of our wall sign.

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we're looking to occupy 35 just a little bit over 35 square feet of a non-illuminated wall sign

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of a non-illuminated wall sign it's it's nicely dressed and it does serve as identification to

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it's it's nicely dressed

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the building here is our monument sign we are just replacing the monument that is there right now we

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are still the the where my cursor is shows that we're still in the analog age and what we're

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looking to do is to come into the 21st century and create our electronic sign here. It will be

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no more than 24 square feet, and it will include only 18 square feet of sign messaging.

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Now, our proposed sign is integral to the church's ability to effectively reach its congregation

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and the surrounding community, particularly in an area where digital communication is critical.

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The existing hardship stems from the unique shape and layout and historic function of the site.

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What I showed you is the antiquated monument sign, which is still historically significant to the church

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and the surrounding community, but it is antiquated.

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And we're hoping that because of this limit, to meet the requirements of today's ways of communicating, where we have to exceed the maximum area.

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And we do believe that animated illumination will make sense.

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Now, the church's physical conditions, the lot configuration and its location at 56 and Gerard, it does create limitations for the signage, as I mentioned.

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But the variance that we're asking for is the least modification necessary to allow the church to maintain its visibility.

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The hardship is not self-imposed.

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In fact, it's quite the opposite.

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Our signage is vital to communication and also to the broader public, right?

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By all means, this church has always served the community, and they will in turn use that signage to announce emergencies, announce community gatherings, and the like.

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Also in addition, the sign doesn't really create any excessive brightness. It doesn't create any disproportionate scaling. It doesn't create any congestion with traffic or impacts to any utilities.

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And with that, I can show you exactly additional photos that we have.

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Here's the church at the corner facing the monument sign.

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Here's along West Derrard, and here's along 56th Street.

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With all of that, we do have great news.

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We received the support of our local RCO.

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We met with them last week on May 22nd.

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It was a packed room and we received overwhelming support.

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There was only three people out of 22, out of 25 who abstained, out of 26 who abstained.

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Even more so, what I would like to show the board is that the church is very enterprising.

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And they know this is one of the rare times that they had to come to the city to make such a request.

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They've actually sought out petitions and went door-to-door around the neighborhood and got not one sheet, but I want to say it's about 11 sheets, totaling about...

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Only 282?

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Yes. I was going to say about 300, but...

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Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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So, and, but that just goes to show evidence that having the support of the RCO as well

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as well as getting the support of the surrounding community does show that our requests will

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not have a negative impact at all with, in granting our variants.

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at all with with in granting our variant um at this time i would like to bring reverend blanks sure

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okay and if you would pull it closer to you too this gets it's a little weak yeah it'll come

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right here yep thank you reverend could you please state your name as spelled for the stenographer

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Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman and members of the board.

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My name is Ralph Blanks, R-A-L-P-H, last name B-L-A-N-K-S.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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Yes, I do.

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Please proceed, counsel.

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