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ZBA Hearing - May 28, 2025

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)May 28, 20257h 56m

as well well it's not well it's it's it's it's actually bill bill co doors that open up right

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Okay. Other questions?

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Questions or comments from our attorney?

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Not at this time, Mr. Chair.

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Questions or comments from the virtual audience?

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Yes, Chair. I have a hand up from Robert Everett.

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I will promote them at once.

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Hi, Mr. Everett.

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sorry it took me a while that's okay mr everett i haven't i haven't heard from you in a while so

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could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer had a couple weeks off i guess

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uh yes first name is robert last name everett e v e r e double t do you swear or affirm to tell

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the truth told you nothing but the truth i do please proceed sir i'm just here to represent

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that fna did have our meeting and we did support them thank you very much we appreciate you taking

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the time is there anyone else in the virtual audience yes chair sloan folks has their hand

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they had their hand raised but now it's down you can proceed okay thank you um planning commission

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amy board with the planning commission the comprehensive plan recommends no change in

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zoning at this location from the existing rsa 5 residential single family to propose uses

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consistent with the previous variance for commercial space and will not injure the use

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of adjoining properties the planning commission recommends the board grant their requested variance

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for child care center so thank you mi 2025 000 624 1247 east columbia avenue i vote yes with

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proviso first floor and basement first floor and basement level yes use use approved for first

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floor and basement use approved for first floor and basement level michael johns my vote is yes

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with Proviso.

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Cheryl Gaston, my vote is yes

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with Proviso.

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My vote is yes with Proviso.

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My vote is yes with Proviso.

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Thank you, sir, for coming in. We appreciate you staying around.

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Thank you. He's here for the next

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one, too. He's here for this

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one, too? Yeah.

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The Artesian Studios? Yeah.

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Wow. Okay.

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So, MI2025, maybe that's why you stayed all day, right? MI2025, 000815, 2034 North 2nd Street. Mr. Nockamson, just for the record, state your name.

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So MI 2025

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is your movie. That's why you stayed all day, right?

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MI 20...

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Alan Nockamson.

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And our vice chair has a few questions for you. You've already been sworn.

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Good evening, counsel. Do you agree to wait to read another refusal or stipulate to his equity?

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I do.

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Have you emailed in all the required documents and exhibits as needed to proceed with this case five days in advance of this hearing?

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Yes, I have.

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thank you please proceed share your screen and i would say also that there's a norris square has

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letter of support 15 and support one in opposition and then uh council member uh lazada yes we did

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receive a letter and not off from councilmember look maybe you want to i heard him yeah so i'm

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going to keep this brief but this is one of these projects that we should be proud of as the city of

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philadelphia and i really do mean it like jim did a great job here this is a renowned project and

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i'm going to have him speak more so but let me just go through the technical aspects of this

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this building is the gotham where it has many many different accolades but we have three refusals

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here um this is an adaptive reuse project this is basically phase two of it where you know we

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started building the building structure here, which has 40 units, and we're just trying to

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swap out some of those artisan units on the second floor to make them residential. So we have three

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refusals. First, because we lack the amount of industrial space that is required under the code,

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we're getting a refusal. I will note that if you look at that refusal, this property is a mix

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between IRMX as well as CMX 2.5, so it's not completely IRMX.

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The second refusal, again, this is an existing, what's it called, building structure here.

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So swapping out the artisan studios for residential studios, this is a non-conforming structure to begin with.

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And then the third refusal has to do with the parking, where because we're increasing the residential use,

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now because of three to ten ratio uh we are now required to provide one additional parking spot

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that we didn't have to before um i would say that's the minimus in nature and you know a lot

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of times with the artisan studios there's living there anyway so it's form over substance so we did

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get support from you know relevant parties um i'm just going to go right to the floor plans and then

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jim is going and here are the pictures this is again this is the main building which was adaptive

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reuse jim mimicked the that building by creating this new building here which is phase two of the

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gotham different viewpoints you know proof of posting you know again north second street to

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the right of the property to the left of the property north phillip street to the right of

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the property and left of property we go street to street and then interior photos this is the type of

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what he has in other parts of the gotham so you're seeing the quality of work and materials here

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and then the plans and drawings again this is just a rendering of this would be phase two

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we're looking to put four units that are artisan and switch them over to residential on the second

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floor and then one of jim's um businesses is e-built that focuses on green roofs so obviously

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has a green roof on there um in terms of this of of the floor plans here this is just again just a

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snapshot of what we're swapping out so you have four units that are currently artisan and then

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he's going to tell the background story behind it uh but you know if you unit 201 which is 667

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square feet uh these are all studios unit two is 464 unit uh 205 is 612 unit uh 207 746

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even though a lot of these are studios by placement of walls he did try to create separation

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between the living area and the sleeping areas where possible um i know it's been a long day

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so i'm going to keep i kept that brief we have the rest of the exhibits which are necessary but i

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jim's already been sworn in jim why don't you just tell the background story of the gotham and just

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state your name again jim james marines okay sure all right why don't you just state the background

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story between the gotham and why and what you're doing here right so originally we purchased the

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gotham all the way back in it was a it was a wicker warehouse that's a large 10-story wicker

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warehouse on north second street we got it added to the historic register uh and did a historic

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rehab on the building completed it in 2020 and it was originally for commercial on the first floor

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and all residential units above and then we went forward and we had at the time this was pre-covid

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we had uh we leased out the commercial spaces on the first floor had further demand

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We leased out the commercial spaces on the first floor, had further demand for commercial space at that time.

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So we built a larger commercial space on the second floor, and we had three other units there,

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which we went back and got a change to be able to allow those to be commercial space as well.

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We had this approved around the same time by right because of the way it was,

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and it's a half-podium structure to fit the 12 parking spaces in.

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that took the that moved these commercial spaces up to the second floor to meet the code okay so

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what happened is post covid we really saw a huge decrease in the the desire for office space we you

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know our our vacancy went through the roof so currently even now on the second floor of the

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other building of the main building we still have three out of the four units on the second floor

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are vacant and commercial so now we had this building came up that was previously approved

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and those units we couldn't convert back to residential by right but we went and said okay

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these that building has 13 foot ceilings this building has nine foot ceilings that building

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has large like artist type expanses of glass it's much more conducive to commercial use than this

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building is so instead of doing that we just we requested that was the need for the variance

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to convert these units to residential instead to clarify on the parking it says that we have

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need 13 spaces but we really have 12 all toll across the project we have 75 parking spaces so

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but on the south side of the building there's a podium structure with units above there's there's

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56 units in that parking spaces in that area and then there's another 22 on this north side of the

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building uh 12 that we just constructed and 10 that were previously approved but not built

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because the ongoing construction here so now really although we're we're required to have 12

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we're really building 20 we built 22 additional spaces and so we can more than meet the demand

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for parking thank you okay questions for the board

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questions or comments from our attorney

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not at this time mr. chair questions or comments from the virtual audience

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i do not see any hands mr. chair any commission amy board with the planning commission

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the comprehensive plan recommends no change in zoning from the existing

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ir max residential industrial mixed use the plan has demonstrated that the property cannot be used

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in conformance with the zoning code for industrial spaces the resulting requested variance for

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occupied area and accessory parking are existing physical conditions of the property citywide

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vision recommendation 2.2.2 is to reposition former industrial sites for new users the planning

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commission recommends that the board grant their requested variance for removal of industrial spaces

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occupied area and accessory parking thank you mi 2025 000 815 2034 north second street i vote yes

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michael johns my vote is yes cheryl gaston my vote is yes tanetta graham my vote is yes

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i win my vote is yes i hate my vote is yes alan the lawyers in the back are cheering that you're

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done thank you um it's for anyone in the uh virtual audience whose case has not been called

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from the two o'clock list.

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I swear to you.

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That's in your hand, sir.

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Thank you.

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I swear we're going to take a five-minute break

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and then we will be right back.

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Right back.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Yeah, I noticed that, I don't see that.

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It doesn't have anything to do.

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Yes, there's a time.

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Yes, let's go in, let's go in there.

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It's just a big, big problem.

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Yeah, and it's a little...

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yeah

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good afternoon everyone my name is bill bergman and i will be chairing this afternoon's meeting

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With me is our Vice Chair, Ismael Shahid.

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Present, Mr. Chairman.

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Our Board Member, Cheryl L. Gaston.

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Present, Mr. Chairman.

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Our Board Member, Tanetta Graham.

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Present, Mr. Chairman.

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Board Member, Michael Johns.

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Present, Mr. Chairman.

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Board Member, Ty O'Wynn.

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Present, Mr. Chairman.

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Also, here is our Attorney, Hillary Emerson,

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our Executive Director, Ian Haggerty,

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and our Board Administrator, Lakeisha Dandy.

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Recording of this hearing will be posted on the ZBA website.

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Whether remote or in person, if you're called to speak, you must state and spell your name and then wait to be sworn in.

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Once you've been sworn in, please state your name each time before beginning your testimony.

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the property of the appeal case. The following guidance is for our remote attendees. First,

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when directed by the chair, you must raise your virtual hand in order to be recognized to speak.

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in order to be heard by all attendees and the court reporter.

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over the public address system or by the staff.

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The nearest stairwell is on the left outside the doors.

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In case of evacuation, the rally point is Love Park.

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directly across Art Street. Please remain there so we can account for you.

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Let's look at our schedule for this afternoon.

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Number five, MI 2025-000-398-1325-South 23rd Street.

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This case is a continued attorney moving party.

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Are there any other requests for continuances?

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Good afternoon, Mr. Chair, or rather good evening.

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This is Jason Hand.

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I will be your co-host for the session.

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I did not see any hands.

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Thank you.

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So we're going to go first.

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MI 2025, 000397, 1935-37 South Bancroft Street.

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Dawn Tangrady is the attorney.

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Also, Leonard Reuter on behalf of the city is here.

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I don't, could you please state your name and spell it for the court stenographer?

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Hi, I'll question it.

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good afternoon don tancredi d-a-w-n my last name is t-a-n-c-r-e-d-i do you swear or firm to tell

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Good afternoon.

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