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ZBA Hearing - December 6, 2023

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Dec 6, 20234h 7m

Present, Mr. Chairman.

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Our Board Member, Thomas Holloman.

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Present, Mr. Chairman.

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And our Board Member, James Snell, should be joining us shortly.

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Also present is Hilary Emerson, our Attorney, and our Executive Director, Tanya Sunken.

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Here's our virtual format.

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Be advised, the proceedings are being recorded.

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Video will be available by contacting tanyasunken at philo.gov.

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For the benefit of our court stenographer, we are asked attorneys and witnesses to identify themselves before testifying.

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If you're participating by phone and you wish to testify, press star nine to raise your hand and star six to unmute.

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To enter the appearance statement, call 267-270-5548.

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Leave your email and the address of the property in question.

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And finally, the question-answer box on the screen is not for comments or testimony.

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All comments should be directed to our Executive Director, Tanya Sunk.

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Let's look at our schedule for this afternoon.

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Number two, MI 2023-004-813-1200 South Broad Street.

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That case is continued.

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Number four, MI 2023-005-769-2628, South Street, that case is continued.

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you. Number six. MI 2023-004-818-4849 Parkside Avenue. It's Mr. Feldman here.

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Mr. Chair, Mr. Feldman submitted a written request for continuance. This is the first listing.

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All right. Thank you. So MI 2023 004.

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All right. Thank you. So MI 2023-004-818-4849, Parkside Avenue. That case is continued.

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Number 10. MI 2023-004-624-2628, South Street. That case is continued.

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Number 12. MI 2023-004-599-488 Byberry Road. That case is continued. Number 13.

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Mr. Chair, I was going to say we received a written continuance request for that one attorney moving party.

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All right, good. Okay, so number 13, MI 2023-004-915-843-North 40th Street, cases continued, attorney-moving party. And number 14, MI 2023-004-889-3360 Stokely Street, that case is continued.

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Also on the list, number seven.

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MI 2023-004-793-6401 Wayne Avenue.

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Is Mr. Masters here?

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Good afternoon, Chair.

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This is Fatina.

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I'll be your co-host for this afternoon.

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Thank you.

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You're welcome.

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And I have allowed Mr. Masters to speak.

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Mr. Masters, could you state your name, please, and spell for the court stenographer?

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By lawyers, no doubt.

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Yes, hang on.

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I have a technical issue for a moment.

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All right, take your time.

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Okay, I am here.

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Could you state your name and spell for the court stenographer?

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Steve Masters, S-T-E-V-E, M-A-S-T-E-R-S.

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Right.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Mr. Masters, number seven, is that going to be withdrawn?

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Can you share the zoning permit number?

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Because we have two.

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Oh, sure.

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Sure, sure. So, zoning permit number ZP2023006432.

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Yes, that one will be withdrawn and we will be proceeding with ZP2023006432.

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Number eight, we'll be doing number eight.

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Yeah, 8241.

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Yeah, right. So, I'm going to withdraw this right now, okay?

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Thank you so much.

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Thank you. So number seven, MI 2023, 004-793-6401, Wade Avenue. This case has been withdrawn.

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We're going to go to our ad. Is there any other requests for continuances?

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There we have Stephanie, last name ending in M.

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Okay.

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Hi, could you state your name, please, and spell for the court stenographer?

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Yes, Stephanie Magania, S-T-E-P-H-A-N-I-E, Magania, M-A-G-A-G-N-A.

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Do you swear for them to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

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Yes, I do.

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Are you talking about 1200 South Broad?

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I'm not.

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I'm here on behalf of 3929 Pine Street.

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It's MI 2023-001-071.

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My office did send in a written request for continuance as attorney moving party.

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okay let me get that

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Hillary what number is that

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I'm looking Mr. Chair that was this morning on the 9 30 list that was continued that was

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continued this morning okay great thank you very much but we did not receive I would say but we

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did not receive a request that that be attorney moving party so if you can reach out to the office

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Ms. McGagno separately and let us know you'd like to make that change we can do that thank you

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thank you very much okay thank you go on to our add-on list

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number one on the add-on list mi 2023 004 191 1807 pine street

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I vote yes with proviso. Revised plans, one page, stamped by ZBA, December 6, 2023, maximum seven units.

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Thomas Holloman, my vote is yes with proviso.

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Thomas Holloman, my vote is yes, with proviso.

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Ishmael Shaheed, my vote is yes, with proviso.

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And number two, MI 2023-002-682-1317 South Ruby Street, I wrote yes.

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Vote yes.

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Thomas Holloman, I vote yes.

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Ishmael Shaheed, my vote is yes.

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Thank you.

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On to our regular list.

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Number one, MI 2023-004-877-2802 Bodine Street.

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Joseph Vaccaro is the attorney.

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Letter of support from IMPACT and a letter of non-opposition from Council Member Lozada.

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Joseph Vaccaro is coming back in as a panelist.

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Mr. Chair, I just want to note that we also received a letter of non-opposition from State Senator Tartaglione.

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Oh, thank you.

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I appreciate that.

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i could state your name and spell please for the court stenographer

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certainly good afternoon may please the board my name is joseph

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vicaro v-a-c-c-a-r-o attorney on behalf of the church iglesia de dios roca de vida

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they are the applicants for this application all right do you swear for him to tell the truth the

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whole truth and nothing but the truth? Yes, I do. Okay. Our vice chair has just a few questions.

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Thank you.

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Good afternoon, counsel. Do you agree to wave the reading of the refusal and stipulate to its

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accuracy? Yes, I do. Have you emailed in all the required documents and exhibits that is needed and

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required to proceed with this case five days in advance of this hearing? Yes, I do. Thank you.

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please proceed and share your screen. Okay, thank you very much. May please the board,

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this is our application to permit a church on this property. By way of history, this property

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is zoned as a single family, but as we'll see in the photographs, this building was never designed,

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was never built, was never used as a single-family home. In fact, it's a very large

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warehouse type of building, and it was used accordingly as a warehouse. And now the church,

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after the church had purchased the building, the church recently discovered that it's not

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zoned to be used as an assembly hall for the church, and we're proceeding with this application

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to allow this variance to be put in.

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Can you see the documents that I'm sharing?

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We can, sir.

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Okay, so I'm starting off.

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We're just going straight down with the documents

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that are part of this application.

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We have the application for appeal,

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which we've already read, the refusal.

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Here's a sky view of the property.

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This is the building over where my cursor is.

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And here's a front view from Google.

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Another front view.

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And scrolling down, I have some more pertinent photos of the property.

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in addition to the letter that I sent to the near neighbors.

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And we're just scrolling down to some photos of the inside and the outside of the building.

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Okay, so here are some photos of the inside of the building

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and the outside, the poster that I put up, timely.

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And you can see that this is just a large assembly hall style building, and as I had

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had stated earlier, this was used as a warehouse before the church had purchased the building.

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stated earlier, this was used as a warehouse before.

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The church members would be using parking across the street, but that would be the subject of some

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future action before the board again. They also have land behind the building,

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which they could use for parking, again, subject to some future applications.

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So here I am showing the board the back alley that comes off of the side street from Boudinot.

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This is the back of the building. My cursor is over it.

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You see the cinder blocks that are blocking, that are closing off a window that's no longer being used.

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here's another view of the back of the building

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this is not the main entrance this is the back entrance that would be used for emergency exits

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and again the church owns all of this green space

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all of this land behind the building this is all owned by the church

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we're just scrolling further down again here this is all the church's land which again the church

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would be able to use for parking subject to future applications

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this is a side view of the church

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and this what we're showing you now this is the property that the church owns across the street

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from the building in question uh this would be subject to future applications um with with a lot

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consolidation again to be used for parking for the church members but that would be ancillary to the

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pending application for the use permit for the main building right now.

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And here's a front view of the building as it currently looks.

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Now, one of the comments that we had when this application was refused is that the refusal said that the building was attached.

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The building is not attached to either rejoining property. It's a completely self-standing building, and there was space between this building and the property to the south, as well as the next property to the north.

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So the building is not connected to any other building.

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with me i have pastor edwin sullivan with a few other church members um

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and i would have a few questions for the pastor as to what days of the week

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and what hours the church would be in operation i want to bring pastor sullivan on sure he's in

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the room with me so okay sure hi pastor how are you could you please state your name

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and spelled for the court stenographer, sir?

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Yes, my name is Kevin Sullivan.

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Mr. Vaccaro, could you get him a little closer to the microphone?

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Oh, yeah.

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Sure.

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God bless everyone.

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My name is Kevin Sullivan.

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E-D-W-I-N.

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My last name is S-O-L-I-V-A-N.

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Sullivan.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth,

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nothing but the truth?

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Yes. Proceed, counsel.

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Okay. Pastor, how long have you been

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the pastor of the church?

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I'm here

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two years.

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So you've been here two years.

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What days of the week would the church

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be in operation?

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This is Monday

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on 7

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30 to 8 30.

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In the evening?

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In the evening.

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8 p.m.

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Tuesday, 7.30 to 9 p.m.

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Thursday, 7.30 to 9 p.m.

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And Sundays, 11 a.m. to 1 o'clock.

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How many members does this church have?

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Right now it's about 80 members.

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We're working with the community to find some work.

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What kind of work is the church doing?

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Besides preaching the Word of God, what else are you doing?

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we um grab food and go out with the with the communities outside here in the corner with

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some of them and helping with some food sometimes and things like that we go to the community to

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to help with the need that the community has.

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And in the summertime,

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we do the big service outside.

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And reach out.

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And reach out, yeah.

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Bring our people to the community

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and help with their needs.

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and then we

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announce

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