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ZBA Hearing - November 16, 2022

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Nov 16, 20224h 55m

And Dennis Lee said she was asking for this for rentals.

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and I want to state the facts on that first

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and then

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Old Pal Street is a small street

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and she's trying

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to put a parking space

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in her backyard

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plus that's a no-no

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plus you see there's no alley

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there's no

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her street is N Street, there's no alley

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for the people that live on Reese Street

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that's a blockage right there

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you see where she had those two

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there was no alley

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if you need an alley for the people

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how are the people going to get out

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to the street to protect themselves

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that's one thing

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my concern

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so here's

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Ms. Buford here's the issue

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are you for or against this project

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excuse me

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are you for the project

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or against it

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no I'm not for the project

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that's all I'm asking

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okay thank you very much

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we appreciate your call

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Mr. Chair can I respond to her

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comments

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I just want to make sure there's no one else in the audience

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and then I'll give you the last response

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Chair we have a call-in user

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call-in user

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can you please unmute yourself or wait for the chair

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Hi could you state your name and spell for the court reporter

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Call-in user

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please unmute yourself

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Hi, Tiffany Green, Concerned Scissor Point Breed, RCO.

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Tiffany, could you spell your name for the court reporter?

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T-I-S-S-A-N-Y, G-R-E-E-N.

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Right. Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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Yes.

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Proceed.

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Initially, back in 2012, we had this ordinance passed with no garages.

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I know this is saying a driveway, but we didn't want her to run into the same situation that they have over in the graduate hospital area where a lot of parking spaces were taken up.

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Although she's in the backyard driveway at this particular point, we've had others come through.

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And it's just a situation at this point that we feel that there's no real reason for a variant or a unique or compelling situation at this point.

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just to make, not to be inconsiderate, but she did at 1935 Reed Street.

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The 17 bus runs 24 hours at night, and it drops you off right at 19th and Reed, and she lives 1935.

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So the other thing is that the dimensions on this don't sound correct,

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or either the refusal needs to be corrected in terms of the dimensions.

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But I just wanted to say also that when she's back, it's very, like Ms. Buffett says,

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It's very narrowing with the parking.

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If she's backing up, it would be detrimental to other neighbors who do park on that block as well.

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And we just – and like she said, also in the meeting, it was posed was the owner using it because she was elderly or she had a problem with walking,

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and it was stated that it was only using for aesthetically or to rental profits or increase.

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And at that particular point, most of the people in the meeting did not agree with that.

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Okay.

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Thank you, Tiffany, for coming in.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Bye-bye.

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Is there anyone else in the virtual audience?

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Chair, I see no other hands at this time.

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May I respond here?

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You most certainly can.

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I'd like to call my client back, Ms. Lutz.

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And I'd like to share my screen again.

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Ms. Lutz, please unmute yourself.

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Okay, I'm here.

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You've already been sworn.

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Proceed.

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Ms. Lutz, you were in the meeting with regard to this project, correct?

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Correct.

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Now, did you represent that you needed this parking space for rental?

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So I currently have, my situation is that I bought that property in 2016.

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I moved in with my fiance who lives on 20th and Ellsworth.

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I moved in with my fiancee who lives on 20th and Ellsworth.

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We have a two-year-old now and I'm pregnant and that home is much bigger.

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So our plan is to move back into that property and having a young child or two young children

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at that point, having that parking space would be very beneficial to us.

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So that's where the confusion is coming in.

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It's not for my tenant, it's for myself moving back in there.

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working as a nurse and having two small children, that parking space, especially because I go into

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the hospital 6.30 in the morning and get home very late at night. So parking, it would be really nice

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to have that. I understand. So with regard to the dimensions of the space, would your space look

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similar to this parking that is here across from you on Opal Street? Yes. All right. Now the

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dimensions of what your space would be, according to the drawings, is that it would take up eight

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feet going this way, and that would leave the additional space on this side. Is that correct?

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Correct. And with regard to the other cars that are on the street that you, that, you know, in

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your experience, when you've seen them going into their curb cuts, are they able to safely navigate

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that? Yes. Thank you. I have nothing further with regard to Ms. Lutz. I would just like to

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state, Mr. Chair and members of the board, Ms. Lutz has requested this variance, as she stated,

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not because of the reasons that the members who came on the call were stating. They are

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clearly, you know, concerned about things that

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Our project would not create. First of all, we're taking a space off of the street. And not only that, there's a safe distance for Ms. Lutz to be able to drive into the space. They would leave a rear yard of more than nine feet based upon the plans.

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I'm not sure why the refusal says zero because it's not taking up the entire yard. It's only

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taking up eight feet across and 16 feet in length. So it would be sufficient to leave a rear yard

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depth of nine feet. As we stated, there's a difficulty with parking in this area. It's like

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checkers at times, I'm sure for many of the people who have to park in that area. And we're just

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asking for a variance that would not create an undue burden on the community, nor create any

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additional congestion. And for those reasons, we would ask that you grant the variance.

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Thank you. Thank you very much. Ron Bednar, please. Planning.

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This is Ron Bednar, City Planning. This property is indicated for residential use on the city plan,

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given the site's physical circumstances. We have no objection to the granting of the

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request adherence okay um we're waiting for tax clearance am i right yes mr chair also waiting

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for the rco letter well i believe members from the rco came on already if i'm not mistaken

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uh mr chair this is hillary i i checked the taxes there's there's no balance i know sometimes

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there are issues with getting a clearance in the system but there are no balance um we are fine

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there um i wasn't clear from ms buford's testimony if she was speaking on behalf of the rco

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or just herself she referenced she had been to the meeting but did not indicate

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she was from the rco and tiffany green was from um was is is from an rco um we can we can take

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her testimony that i don't believe concerned citizens of point breeze was the coordinating

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rco in this case um but they did participate okay so we can vote uh it is your call mr

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chair the meeting was held over a month ago or sorry i'm sorry the meeting was held on 1024.

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okay mi2022-003-519-1935 reed street i vote yes

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my vote is yes

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Thomas Holloman

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my vote is no

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Ish

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my vote is yes

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Jim

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Ms. Nichols you have your three votes

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thank you Mr. Chair

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good evening

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is there anyone in the virtual audience

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whose case has not been called

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chair i see no hand

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okay we're thank you everybody thank you appreciate all your work thank you

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good night everyone

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Good night.

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