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ZBA Hearing - September 23, 2026

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Sep 23, 20267h 31m

no i'm sorry that is a spanish interpreter we're looking for a georgian interpreter i believe uh

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mr rodriguez mr rodriguez are you uh here to interpret spanish language or georgian language

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do we see a georgian interpreter in the audience

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I do not share okay let's let's get Darlene on if we can um I'm having audio problems

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Commissioner I hear an echo and I can't seem to get rid of it this is Ian Hegarty pardon the

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interruption chair do you have I see your name twice in the attendees list do you have another

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device on in the room somewhere with you because that could be causing the echo problem let me just

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just give me a second can you hear me now we can yes that's much clearer thank you

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why don't you please state your and spell your name for the stenographer

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ian can you hear me now we we do we do

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darlene

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Pauline, can you hear us?

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Darlene are you able to hear me now can you hear us I don't know what's going on

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can you come back to me put me at the end of the list

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we we certainly can we're just trying to Darlene are you going to need an interpreter

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i don't think she's able to hear the audio chair okay all right

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um we we hear you we hear you um we'll come back and check on you later okay

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all right let's move on

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you don't have to stay by the way you're done for the day and you're done too sir

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Right. But you you're more than welcome to sit. All right, let's let's go.

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Let's go to number 16 and we'll check back later. Number 16.

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MI 2026 002 169 901 Belmont Avenue, Liam and Barbara Barrett.

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Liam Barrett has been promoted.

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Okay.

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Good morning, Liam.

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Hello, good morning.

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Good morning. Could you please state and spell your name for the stenographer?

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Liam Barrett, L-I-A-M-B-A-R-R-E-T-T.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Our vice chair has just a few questions for you.

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Good morning. Have you submitted your documents and exhibits 14 days in advance of this hearing?

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Yes.

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and uh do you understand that your application is for four dwelling units yes okay and that and

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you're refused because uh four dwelling units is prohibited in your rm1 zoning district yes okay

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all right you can share your screen and proceed to tell us what you would like to do with this

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property all right and i also notice you have a letter from the west belmont civic association

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and support. That's correct.

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You're coming up now. You're... Okay, it's taking its time.

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and could could you please do you can you uh show yourself one video

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i don't i don't see you uh yeah one second

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can you see me um not yet okay sorry about that

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It looks like I'm on.

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Same.

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Okay.

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Bring your documents up, please.

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Right.

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So here is my notice of refusal for 901 Belmont Ave.

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Sorry, Liam.

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Liam, we don't see anything.

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You can see that, right?

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We don't see anything.

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Yes.

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Pardon the interruption.

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uh he did start sharing and it's just taking a moment for that he did start sharing and it's

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just taking a moment for it to appear it looks like there's a little bit of a lag um in the

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sure balance connection

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uh i'll just give it a second sorry about that but it's uh it's showing up on my end

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uh is it all right if i turn my camera off i think that might help with internet sure go ahead

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there you go all right so why don't you start it by telling us what you want to do

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there you go all right so why don't you start it by telling us what you want to do

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okay uh so i would like to legalize an existing

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thing uh fourth unit in this house

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uh so if you can see my screen uh here is the notice of refusal yep because you need

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1440 square feet of lot area scrolling now here is my uh very crude uh proof of mailing for

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my rco meeting uh i know now that there's a more efficient way to do this but this

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each individual card is for one neighbor and i can show you paper copies in person or close-ups too

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okay that's fine yep and here is the rco meeting summary uh everybody who voted voted in support

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and one epstein okay okay here is my certificate of tax clearance

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okay we have that we have that so what do you want i think the easiest thing is do

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is go to photos or plans okay that's your posting too right yep yes that's

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correct all right okay so here's picture of the property it's on the

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corner of Belmont Ave on the front here what's going to be sure which one is

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this one here on the corner okay this is on Belmont Ave on the front Westminster Ave on the

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side here's another picture of the front and you can see there's a door here this door goes to a

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common hallway where you can access the first floor apartment goes up a stairwell to access

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the second floor apartment and another stairwell to access the third floor and this door here on

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the right is an additional door for the first floor apartment. This is an aerial view. As you

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can see, here's the property, apartment building over here, many other houses, and this is a school

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across the street. Another view here, house outlined in red. Right here, you can't see them

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now but this is where trash and recycling bins are stored and then there's two doors here this door

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on the left leads to the basement and this door on the right is that other apartment uh that i'm

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applying for today another picture how many apartments do you have there now four okay and

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okay you you exist you've and and you're applying for an extra is was that what you said i didn't

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understand that so uh it's listed as a triplex but there are four properties here so i'm trying

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to legalize the existing fourth unit okay so why don't you show us some interior photos okay one

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moment so i'll start with the plan first so since i wasn't proposing any physical changes i drew this

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up myself that door on the left here goes to the basement and this door on the right you enter here

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it's a laundry room stackable washer dryer closet go through another door and here's the kitchen on

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the right here's the living area and above here is a loft bed and then here is the bathroom with

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the full-size shower now this area here has very very high ceilings and then on top of the areas

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is here is a loft area.

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You'll see it in the pictures, but it's pretty big.

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So, and this is on Westminster Ave, yeah.

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This is that front door to the apartment.

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You can see it's got electrical panel,

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fire extinguisher, alarm system.

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Going over here is that closet, carbon monoxide detector.

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This is a view of the washer dryer

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with the entrance to the street on the right.

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closet and then this is that door going into the main area of the apartment

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another view it's got mini split heat and air conditioning works very well ceiling fan

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and this is some sort of exercise ladder that the previous owner put in

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and here's a electric cooktop microwave

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another view of the kitchen

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for you can't have too many pictures right

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here's a picture of the loft bed this is a

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here's a picture of the loft bed this is a i believe eight foot ceiling and then the loft bed

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on top so underneath the loft bed is this window uh it is egress size and this is a kick plate so

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you can kick this and the bars on the outside will pop open uh in case of an emergency

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is that the first floor uh yeah this is all on the the regular first floor

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let me uh so is there a bedroom there too in that first floor or is it just the loft is the bed

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so i showed you the loft bed this is just a studio apartment

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in no separate bedroom okay and then here's a picture of the bathroom let me ask you this

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is this the one you're trying to listen to me is this first floor the one you're trying to

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add yes

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okay

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another view of the bathroom with a pocket door

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full-size shower

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and another view of the bed up here and this is that loft area so this picture was taken from

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on top of the bed you can see all that extra space i mean it's big enough to fit a full-size tv

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and then plenty of more storage this is there is the kitchen here on the left this is that

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entrance on top of there and then i have some notes if i can go over that too

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well i think yeah you can go over the notes but we need to see the rest of the property too

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uh well i have pictures of the outside of the property and then pictures inside this unit but

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the other three are tenant occupied so i didn't take pictures of those

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but those those three i'm not really uh applying for anything for right

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let me just go up

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So it was built in 1915. I found documentation stating in 1965 that it was five apartments.

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2011, this was six apartments. And then in 2014, they switched it to three apartments.

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So I'm applying for four apartments, which is pretty in scope with how many apartments this

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property has had over the years. I have 1,280 square feet of lot area. So I'm 160

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square feet short of the 1,440 square foot lot requirement. And the hardship here is that it was

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built long before these current zoning laws and uses for units. So it would be a significant loss

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of reasonable use of the space without it. I'm not requesting any building expansion. Should have no

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effect on utility use because it's been an apartment for a long time. Parking should also

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have no effect if you'll see outside those two front doors there is a curb cut out because that

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used to be a garage a long time ago i guess so if this to get this apartment legalized that would

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actually make that a valid spot out front so you actually gain parking on the street

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and then i actually based this proposal off of let me pull this up uh two neighboring properties

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So there's 885 Belmont Ave, it's a block away, same zoning, and they got a similar variance a few years ago for four dwelling units where they legalized an existing rear first floor addition.

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And then 939 Belmont Ave is a different zoning district, RSA 5, but they were also approved for four dwellings two years ago.

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any questions um questions from the board can you pull back up the floor plan please yeah

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and then maybe maybe I missed this because I was looking at other things but

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how do you get to this unit from the main entrance of the building

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yeah let me pull up the outdoor picture so that front door this door goes to the apartment on the

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first floor second floor and third floor this door on the back is how you enter that apartment

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This door on the back is how you enter that apartment.

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you enter right by the laundry room

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You enter right by the laundry room there.

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So it's these two doors here.

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Well, the left one is the basement.

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The right one is the apartment.

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The laundry room is the basement.

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No.

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It is not.

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One moment.

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Pull that up again.

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Okay.

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So like on this floor plan.

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Wait, go down.

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Go down.

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Okay.

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So if you show the whole plan so we can see the whole plan, that door that leads.

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Oh, I see. So is the laundry room just for this unit or for the entire building?

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Just for the unit. All apartments have their own washer dryer.

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What's the square footage of this unit?

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Just shy of 180 square feet.

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when was the renovation to make this this unit done uh i'm not sure honestly this is how i bought

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it uh when did you buy it november uh 2025

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and then what's the use in the basement then

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uh well basement is where the water heaters are you know hvac systems no no tenants really go in

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there it's for utilities okay so all the utilities for all the units are in the basement

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entrance to the basement is through this door yeah that's the only entrance and uh all the

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water heaters are for for those apartments are in the basement uh but for the second and third

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floor apartments the heaters are in the apartments themselves and the electrical panel for all of the

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pico meters is in the basement yes okay they're they're right here so they're not they're not

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underneath the house but they are in that entrance to the basement so nothing else is

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the basement is not used for anything else uh correct and the meters for the gas are in the

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basement as well. And then all apartments are gas, including this efficiency? So those, the front

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three apartments do have gas. This efficiency is electric only. So that mini split on the wall up

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here just uses electric. Same with the washer dryer. Well, all mini splits only use electric.

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I think I was more concerned about the stovetop in this one. That's an electric stovetop. Yeah.

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Electric stovetop. And then where is it venting through the rear wall?

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so uh i'll pull up a picture it just has the uh

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just this microwave has the vent the fan in it

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what's what's the height of the the area where the bed is what's the height between the

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the top of the deck and the ceiling uh to be honest i did not get that measurement

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I apologize about that, but I could get that for you later today.

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What do you think it is?

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I'm not sure.

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Maybe two and a half, three feet.

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I mean, I fit in there pretty comfortably.

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I'd say maybe two and a half, three, maybe two max.

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so you bought this as a triplex

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yes but this existed when i purchased it wasn't listening but you bought it as a triplex

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and then you discovered this um this efficiency apartment that wasn't approved am i correct

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correct and then do you want to try to now make it um legal is that what is that what you're saying

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That's correct.

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Any other questions from the board?

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