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Committee Hearing, November 30, 2023

Philadelphia City Council Committee HearingsNov 30, 2023

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COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PHILADELPHIA COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS Remote location using Microsoft® Teams Thursday, November 30, 2023 8:35 a.m. PRESENT: COUNCILMAN CURTIS JONES, JR., CHAIR COUNCILMAN KENYATTA JOHNSON, VICE-CHAIR COUNCILWOMAN KATHERINE GILMORE RICHARDSON COUNCILWOMAN QUETCY M. LOZADA COUNCILMAN BRIAN J. O'NEILL

Councilman Isaiah Thomas Bills

230765, 230766, 230767, 230768 - - -

Councilman Jones

Good morning, everyone. This is a continuation of the Committee on Appropriations public meeting. And I would recognize Mr. Glass to read the numbers and titles of the Bills in question.

The Clerk

Yes, Mr. Chairman. Bill No. 230765, an ordinance amending Bill No. 230144, entitled "An Ordinance To Adopt a Capital Program for the Six Fiscal Years 2024 to 2029 Inclusive," by revising various appropriation amounts and totals to conform to amendments to the FY2024 Capital Budget Ordinance, all under certain terms and conditions. Bill No. 230766, an ordinance amending Bill No. 230145, entitled "An Ordinance To Adopt a Fiscal 2024 Capital Budget," by revising various appropriation amounts and totals, all under certain terms and conditions. And Bill No. 230767, an ordinance authorizing transfers in appropriations for Fiscal Year 2024 from the General Fund, certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions, and the Grants Revenue Fund, certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions, to the General Fund, certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions, the County Liquid Fuels Tax Fund, certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions, the Municipal Pension Fund, certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions, and the Transportation Fund, certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions. And finally Bill No. 25 230768, an ordinance authorizing transfers in appropriations for Fiscal Year 2023 from the General Fund from certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions, the Water Fund from certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions, the Grants Revenue Fund from certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions, and the Aviation Fund from certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions, to the General Fund to certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions, to the Water Fund to certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions, and the Aviation Fund to certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions.

Councilman Jones

Thank you, Mr. Glass. Can you please call the roll so we can establish a quorum. And will Members say a few words so that your image appears on the screen.

The Clerk

Yes, Mr. Chairman. Councilmember Thomas.

Councilman Thomas

Good morning, colleagues, Mr. Chairman. I'm present.

Councilman Jones

Good morning.

The Clerk

Councilmember O'Neill.

Councilman O'Neill

Good morning, everyone.

Councilman Jones

Good morning.

The Clerk

Councilmember Lozada.

Councilwoman Lozada

Good morning, Mr. Chair. Good morning, Council colleagues. I'm present.

Councilman Jones

Good morning.

The Clerk

Councilmember Gilmore Richardson.

Councilwoman Gilmore Richardson

Good morning, Mr. Chair. Good morning, colleagues. I am present for the quorum. Thank you.

Councilman Jones

Good morning.

The Clerk

Vice-Chairman Johnson.

Councilman Johnson

Good morning, everyone.

Councilman Jones

Good morning.

The Clerk

And, Chairman Jones.

Councilman Jones

I am present and a quorum has been established. And I call on a motion to Vice-Chair Johnson so that we can recess until 10:00 a.m.

Councilman Johnson

I make a motion that we recess until 10:00 a.m.

Councilman Jones

Is there a sec --

Councilwoman Lozada

Second. Second.

Councilman Jones

It has been moved and properly seconded. All those in favor will signify by saying aye. (Aye.)

Councilman Jones

All those opposed? (No response.)

Councilman Jones

The ayes have it. We will recess until 10:00 a.m. And thank you for your patience publicly. We're trying to get through the arduous task of creating reconciliation on our budget matters for the year. And so, thank you for your patience. Members, we will attempt to get together in the next 20 minutes to deal with issues at hand. Is that okay everyone?

Councilman Thomas

It's all good. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Councilman Jones

All right.

Councilwoman Lozada

Yes, sir.

Councilman Jones

Thank you. This concludes our comments for the time. Bye-bye. (Recess taken.)

Councilman Jones

Thank you, everyone. Good morning. This is a continuation of the public meeting for the City Council Committee on Appropriations. Mr. Glass, will you please read the bills.

The Clerk

Yes, Mr. Chairman. Bill Nos. 230765, 230766, 230767 and 230768.

Councilman Jones

Thank you very much. Will you please call the roll so we can establish a quorum.

The Clerk

Yes, Mr. Chairman. Councilmember Thomas. (No response.)

The Clerk

Councilmember O'Neill. (No response.)

The Clerk

Councilmember Lozada.

Councilwoman Lozada

Present.

The Clerk

Councilmember Gilmore Richardson.

Councilwoman Gilmore Richardson

Good morning, Mr. Chair. Good morning, colleagues. I am present.

Councilman Jones

Thank you. Good morning.

The Clerk

Vice-Chairman Johnson.

Councilman Johnson

Present.

The Clerk

And, Chairman Jones.

Councilman Jones

Present. We have established a quorum. I will now call for a motion from Member Johnson on recessing until 3:00 p.m. today to allow us to finalize our business on the Committee on Appropriations. Chair recognizes Vice-Chair Johnson.

Councilman Johnson

I make a motion that we recess until 3:00 p.m. today.

Councilwoman Lozada

Second.

Councilman Jones

It has been properly moved and seconded that we recess this Committee until 3:00 p.m. today. All those in favor will signify by saying aye. (Aye.)

Councilman Jones

All those opposed? (No response.)

Councilman Jones

Hearing none, the motion pass and we will conclude -- we will recess until 3:00 p.m. today. Thank you everyone for your patience with us as we do the people's business. Thank you. (Recess taken.)

Councilman Jones

Thank you very much. And good afternoon, everyone. This is the Committee on Appropriations dealing with Bill 11 Nos. -- Mr. Glass, would you please read them into the record.

The Clerk

Yes, Mr. Chairman. Bill Nos. 230765, 230766, 230767 and 230768.

Councilman Jones

Thank you so very much. And can we call the roll to make sure we have a quorum.

The Clerk

Yes, Mr. Chairman. Councilmember Thomas.

Councilman Thomas

Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman. I'm present. Thank you for your patience.

Councilman Jones

Thank you.

The Clerk

Councilmember O'Neill.

Councilman O'Neill

Present.

The Clerk

Councilmember Lozada.

Councilwoman Lozada

Good afternoon, everyone. I am present.

Councilman Jones

Good afternoon.

The Clerk

Councilmember Gilmore Richardson.

Councilwoman Gilmore Richardson

Good afternoon. I'm present.

Councilman Jones

Good afternoon.

The Clerk

Vice-Chairman Johnson.

Councilman Johnson

Present.

Councilman Jones

Thank you. All --

The Clerk

And, Chairman Jones.

Councilman Jones

-- right. And I am present. That means we have a quorum. What I would like to do is thank everyone for their patience. This is a process by which we establish our budget priorities over this transfer ordinance, so we will be calling for another recess until I'm going to give it 4:30. And I will seek a motion from Vice-Chairman Johnson.

Councilman Johnson

I would like to make a motion that we recess until 4:30 p.m.

Councilwoman Lozada

Second.

Councilman Jones

It has been moved and properly seconded that we recess until 4:30 today. All those in favor will say aye. (Aye.)

Councilman Jones

All those opposed? (No response.)

Councilman Jones

The ayes have it. So therefore, this Committee will stand at recess until 4:30 p.m. today. Thank you all.

Councilwoman Lozada

Thank you. (Recess taken.)

Councilman Jones

Good evening, everyone. It's been a long day. But this is a continuation of the public meeting of the Committee on Appropriations to take action on Bill Nos. 230765, 230766, 230767 and 230768. Mr. Glass, would you please read the titles of these bills.

The Clerk

Yes, Mr. Chairman. Bill No. 230765, an ordinance amending Bill No. 230144, entitled "An Ordinance To Adopt a Capital Program for the Six Fiscal Years 2024 to 2029 Inclusive," by revising various appropriation amounts and totals to conform to amendments to the FY2024 Capital Budget Ordinance, all under certain terms and conditions. Bill No. 230766, an ordinance amending Bill No. 230145, entitled "An Ordinance To Adopt a Fiscal 2024 Capital Budget," by revising various appropriation amounts and totals, all under certain terms and conditions. And Bill No. 230767, an ordinance authorizing transfers in appropriations for Fiscal Year 2024 from the General Fund, certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions, and the Grants Revenue Fund, certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions, to the General Fund, certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions, the County Liquid Fuels Tax Fund, certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions, the Municipal Pension Fund, certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions, and the Transportation Fund, certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions. And finally Bill No. 14 230768, an ordinance authorizing transfers in appropriations for Fiscal Year 2023 from the General Fund from certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions, the Water Fund from certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions, the Grants Revenue Fund from certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions, and the Aviation Fund from certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions, to the General Fund to certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions, to the Water Fund to certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions, and the Aviation Fund to certain or all City offices, departments, boards and commissions.

Councilman Jones

Thank you, Mr. Glass. We will now take the roll to establish a quorum. With Members being recognized, please say a few words so that your image appears on the screen. Mr. Glass.

The Clerk

Yes, Mr. Chairman. Councilmember Thomas.

Councilman Thomas

Good evening. I'm present.

Councilman Jones

Good evening.

The Clerk

Councilmember O'Neill. (No response.)

The Clerk

Councilmember Lozada.

Councilwoman Lozada

Good morning, everyone -- or good evening, everyone. I'm present.

Councilman Jones

Good evening.

The Clerk

Councilmember Gilmore Richardson.

Councilwoman Gilmore Richardson

Good evening, Mr. Chair and colleagues. I am present.

Councilman Jones

Good evening.

The Clerk

Vice-Chairman Johnson. (No response.)

The Clerk

And, Chairman Jones.

Councilman Jones

Present, and we have established a quorum so --

The Clerk

Yes, Mr. Chairman.

Councilman Jones

-- I am now going to recognize Member Gilmore Richardson for an amendment to Bill No. 230765.

Councilwoman Gilmore Richardson

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I offer an amendment to Bill No. 230765. A copy of the amendment has been circulated to all members of the Committee. I move that the amendment be approved.

Councilman Jones

Is there a second?

Councilwoman Lozada

Second.

Councilman Jones

It has been properly moved and seconded that the amendment to Bill No. 25 230765 is now being considered. All those in favor will say aye. (Aye.)

Councilman Jones

All those opposed? (No response.)

Councilman Jones

The ayes have it. The amendment to Bill No. 9 230765 has been approved. I now recognize Katherine Gilmore Richardson for a motion on the amended bill.

Councilwoman Gilmore Richardson

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that Bill No. 230765 as amended be reported from this Committee with a favorable recommendation and further move that the rules of Council be suspended as to permit first reading of this bill at the next session of Council.

Councilwoman Lozada

Second.

Councilman Jones

It has been moved and properly seconded. All those in favor will signify by saying aye. (Aye.)

Councilman Jones

All those opposed? (No response.)

Councilman Jones

The ayes have it. Bill No. 230765 as amended has been approved. Again, I will recognize Katherine Gilmore Richardson for an amendment to Bill No. 230766.

Councilwoman Gilmore Richardson

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I offer an amendment to Bill No. 230766. A copy of the amendment has been circulated to all Members of the Committee. I move that the amendment be approved.

Councilwoman Lozada

Second.

Councilman Jones

It has been properly moved and seconded that the amendment to Bill No. 4 230766 be considered. All those in favor will signify by saying aye. (Aye.)

Councilman Jones

All those opposed? (No response.)

Councilman Jones

The ayes have it and the bill is amended. I again recognize Katherine Gilmore Richardson for a motion on the amended Bill No. 230766 as amended to consider.

Councilwoman Gilmore Richardson

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that Bill No. 230766 as amended be reported from this Committee with a favorable recommendation and further move that the rules of Council be suspended to permit first reading of this bill at the next session of Council.

Councilwoman Lozada

Second.

Councilman Jones

It has been moved and properly seconded. All those in favor will signify by saying aye. (Aye.)

Councilman Jones

All those opposed? (No response.)

Councilman Jones

The ayes have it, and the amended Bill No. 15 230766 has been approved. Again, I recognize Katherine Gilmore Richardson for an amendment to Bill No. 230767.

Councilwoman Gilmore Richardson

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I offer an amendment to Bill No. 230767. A copy of the amendment has been circulated to all members of the Committee. I move that the amendment be approved.

Councilwoman Lozada

Second.

Councilman Jones

It has been moved and properly seconded. All those in favor will signify by saying aye. (Aye.)

Councilman Jones

All those opposed? (No response.)

Councilman Jones

The amendment to Bill No. 230767 has been approved. I now again recognize that Katherine Gilmore Remission -- Katherine Gilmore Richardson for a motion on the amended Bill No. 20 230767.

Councilwoman Gilmore Richardson

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that Bill No. 230767 as amended be reported from this Committee with a favorable recommendation and further move that rules of Council be suspended as to permit first reading of this bill at the next session of Council.

Councilwoman Lozada

Second.

Councilman Jones

It has been proved and -- it has been moved and properly seconded that Bill No. 230767 be considered. All those in favor will signify by saying aye. (Aye.)

Councilman Jones

All those opposed? (No response.)

Councilman Jones

Bill No. 20 230 -- work with me, 230767 as amended is approved. Again, I recognize Katherine Gilmore Richardson for a motion on Bill No. 230768.

Councilwoman Gilmore Richardson

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that Bill No. 230768 be reported from this Committee with a favorable recommendation and further move that the rules of Council be suspended as to permit first reading of this bill at the next session of Council.

Councilwoman Lozada

Second.

Councilman Jones

It has been moved and properly seconded this Bill 230768 be considered. All those in favor will signify by saying aye. (Aye.)

Councilman Jones

All those opposed? (No response.)

Councilman Jones

The bill 22 passes. And this concludes the business of the Appropriations Committee public meeting. Thank you all so very much for your patience and perseverance. Thank you very much and we will now proceed to the Chambers to continue our Council session. Thank you all guys.

Councilwoman Lozada

Thank you.

Councilwoman Gilmore Richardson

Thank you, Mr. Chair. (Hearing concluded at 8:25 p.m.) C E R T I F I C A T I O N I, hereby certify that the proceedings and evidence noted are contained fully and accurately in the stenographic notes taken by me in the foregoing matter, and that this is a correct transcript of the same. __________________________________ TANEHA CARROLL