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ZBA Hearing - April 7, 2021

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Apr 7, 20219h 42m

going to show that we're not trying to cram people in there we will well i'm just telling you i'm

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just trying to state some reasonable provisos that will we will store trash in the basement

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as well um but it's not my concerns i mean i hear you with the trash and i hear you with the

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because we know how that goes those if there's nobody there's no property manager one day this

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you know a bunch of students and the trash is there because again once the continuous grant

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is granted. So we're stuck, right? So I'm trying to think of something that's going to be more

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long term. Is there any way we cannot build additional to the property that why do we need

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additional space? Because he's spending so much money just and again, just so you understand the

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Because he's spending so much money just, and again, just so you understand, the reason why this property is in disrepair is Mr. Hawkins' aunt died.

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reason why

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That's why, so it's, you know, it's been a family-owned property for almost 40 years, but she died, and that's why it's in disrepair, and they do apologize for that.

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But just given the amount of money that they're going to have to spend, they have to have the three units.

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And again, the expansion of the third floor, there's no dimensional variances.

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We're not trying to build up.

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We're just trying to build that.

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I got you.

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They can probably spend money to repair the property, though, without adding on.

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I'm sorry.

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May I interject a few more?

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There's a whole tree going out of the house.

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I'm sorry.

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I'm about to say that sentence.

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If it's up to the chair, but would it be a suggestion if we maybe hold this decision waiting for two weeks for Allen to get a proviso letter from the RCO and then the board can vote?

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That sounds fair.

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That would be fine.

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That sounds fair, Ms. Hunkett.

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and if i could just suggest um mr um knockison this would not be a typical resumption hearing

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it would just be a hearing for you to return in two weeks to state what the provisals are

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the board can vote on on record and only put the provisals on that are agreeable by the board if

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that sounds right. I'm sorry, Tanya, I saw you say something outwards here. I don't want to go

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against the coordinator as well, because he put in a letter of denial, right? So I'm not trying

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to go against him. I just think that we need a little bit more time to come back and have a

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discussion, not just about provisos, but, you know, again, I have to, I don't want to go against

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the coordinator so is there another way position is so that we can um just have this give me a

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couple that those two weeks not just do a proviso but just to you know talk to the coordinator and

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see if we can come to a different type of position yeah you think that would be fine

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you're having an emotional moment and i understand that but i whatever you can do within the next two

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weeks would be good and if it's only to come up with a proviso alan with you and the and the

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development corporation that's good as well would you agree tanya

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yes madam chair so today is i i don't even know what day we are it's april 7th i think right

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yes so would that be miss sunke would that be april 21st yes we would present that at the

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beginning of the listing um at the two o'clock well actually we're at the 3 30 listing the

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beginning of the 3 30 3 30 just to put on what the agreement was for the provisals and the board can

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vote at that time okay thank you so therefore this will be clear for me if we if the um the

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coordinator still says he he stays with his his statement then it's still open for discussion

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with the board right it can be voted on by the board correct i believe we have all information

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and documentation that was presented so the only thing i believe that should be discussed

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is the proviso but we have i'm not trying to be smart but we just have to move forward

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so it's not clear so i'll send you an email for clarity then okay okay all we're doing on

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on the 21st is getting a proviso so we're not going to take a vote you're saying unless you

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come back after you met you've met with uptown entertainment and they decide that they're not

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going to oppose it then that'll be something different okay so they decide they still want

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to oppose it do we still take a vote yeah we have to take a vote okay yes i don't know i'm sure

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sometimes i just like some type of exceptions like this i don't know so i just have to ask

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So if we could, any other questions present to me offline, but I would like for us to move ahead.

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Yes, yes.

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And Ms. Sunke, I will email you this packet because I think there was something added to this one

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that was not on the original presentation materials.

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I'll make sure the board has it.

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And thank you very kindly.

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And as always, it will be discussed with Ms. Saleta so that we can present on the 21st

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and be able to have the board vote.

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Okay, great.

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Thank you for your time.

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Have a great night.

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Thank you.

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You too.

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You too.

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You too.

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Is Attorney John Griffin here on 2055 North 2nd Street?

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We already called that case.

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I don't see him, Chair.

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Is anybody here for 2055 North 2nd Street at all?

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2055 North 2nd Street at all? Anyone?

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Anyone?

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Okay, so the calendar number...

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Excuse me, Vice Chair, we have Sloan Folks with his hand up. I'm going to unmute him.

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Okay. Hi, Mr. Folks. Name and address, and then I'll swear you in.

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Good evening, Vice Chair Teneary and ZDB Warstone folks. S-L-O-A-N-E-F as in Fire, O-L-K-S, Office of Counseling Maria Keynes. I've been sworn this already earlier today.

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Okay, great.

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I'm just here. We received a letter of non-opposition from the courting RCO regarding

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this various requests. So for the record, we are also going to go on record as not opposing.

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We did not send the letter, but we want to put that on record now.

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We will forward a letter, you know, if and when, you know, if it's resumed

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or if this case is continued or however this happens.

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Thank you so much, Mr. Folks.

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Tanya, we'll just continue this case, correct?

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That sounds good to me, Madam Chair.

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Okay, so calendar number 0116-2055 North 2nd Street will be continued.

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Do we have one last case on Algonne Avenue or do we already do that?

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No, we do have Algonne Avenue as the last case, I believe.

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Thank you. Calendar, and it's Councilman O'Neill's. Calendar number 1560-7810-20 Algon Avenue. The attorney is Gary Lightman. The exhibits were not submitted until 4.06 at 2.30 today.

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I'm sorry, Madam Chair.

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We discussed this at our executive session this morning.

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The attorney that I have is Mr. Stamps for this, if he can be promoted.

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Okay.

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He's been promoted already.

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Hi, Mr. Stamps.

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Can you put your name and address on the record and I'll swear you in?

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Yes, Madam Chair.

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Lyle Stamps from Lightman and Menacee here instead of Mr. Lightman.

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1520 Locust Street, 12th floor, Philadelphia, PA 19102.

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Okay.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

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Yes, Madam Chair.

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Do you also agree to waive the reading of the refusal and stipulate to its accuracy?

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Yes.

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Have you emailed the exhibit packet with proof of ownership, tax compliance,

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refusal, referral, photos, and or plans of the property?

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five days in advance of this hearing.

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And if you met with the RCO, do you have a letter?

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All of those are yes, Madam Chair,

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except for the exhibits.

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Some of the exhibits were not received

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by the board until yesterday.

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And my apologies, as I expressed earlier

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to the Chair on that.

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Okay, Tanya, do we move forward with this?

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Do we get a chance to review them, Carol?

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i'm sorry professor did we review the i guess we didn't have a chance to review the records

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we we didn't have a chance to review them yes actually sharon said this morning she did oh

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she did oh sharon did okay and it was the call of the chair and frank this date earlier to mr

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lyle stamps that we would go ahead and hear it okay present your case please thank you madam

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chair and board and um we appreciate your your willingness to work on that i would uh

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to briefly point out that almost all of the exhibits were already included

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in in our uh submission to the board when we filed for the appeal um my client is alga galman algon lp

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galman algon lp purchased the property at 78 10-20 algon avenue otherwise known as algon flats

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And they have literally poured millions of dollars into this property to change it from a very outdated and frankly an eyesore to the community to the very nice looking and desirable place to inhabit now.

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And they're simply seeking to put a sign projecting slightly off of their building that will be completely contained and over their property, not extending over a sidewalk or anything like that.

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these are you know it's a lightweight banner pennant type sign they'll just be attached to

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the side of the building um to say you know new apartments wow apartments something to you know

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to say you know new apartments wow apartments something to you know catch uh you know the

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community's eye so you know they can appreciate uh what my client's done for the community here

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have you met with your rco uh yeah yes madam chair it was it was a little bit of a challenge but

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uh we finally did manage to have the rco meeting uh they've submitted their letter of uh support

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from all those that were attended there were no objections no questions and councilman o'neill's

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office also submitted their letter in support we do know that councilman o'neill supports this

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does the board have any questions no

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is there anyone in the virtual audience who has questions please raise your hand

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i see no handshake

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planning commission um madam chairperson and members of the board

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uh hold on sorry um although it was known for a single family residential i'm so sorry sir

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could you please put your name on record absolutely sure uh mason austin uh speaking

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for the Planning Commission. He's already been sworn in, Tanya. You may proceed.

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Sure. As though it is zoned for single-family residential, the property is indicated for

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multifamily residential use in the city's comprehensive plan and is currently in that

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use. Planning Commission staff does not object to the granting of a variance for a non-illuminated

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sign on the slot okay ready to vote this case calendar number one five six zero 7810-20 algon

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avenue my vote is yes my vote is yes my vote is yes okay that's all thank you mr stamps uh this

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thank you madam chair and board sure the 330 nightly seance carol what was the result of

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uh the first case on the 330 list 1127 north lee street uh continued okay thank you sure

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everybody on this thank you so

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