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ZBA Hearing - July 31, 2024

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Jul 31, 20246h 45m

We're just allowing the attendees to enter the room.

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It takes about 30 seconds to a minute, board members.

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And Fatida, let me know the number.

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Absolutely, Chair.

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Chair. Yep. Sorry, Chair. Currently, we have 35, excuse me, 37 attendees. You can proceed as you

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Thank you. Good morning, everyone. My name is Bill Bergman, and I will be chairing this morning's ZBA hearing.

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With me is our Vice Chair Ismail Shaheed. Present, Mr. Chairman.

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Our Board Member James Snell. Present, Mr. Chairman.

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Our Board Member Cheryl L. Gaston. Present, Mr. Chairman.

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Our board member, Kaneta Graham.

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Chairman.

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Board member, Michael Johns.

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Present, Mr. Chairman.

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Our board member, Taya Nguyen.

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Present, Mr. Chairman.

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Also, here is our attorney, Hillary Emerson, and also Catherine Grady, our deputy director for planning and zoning.

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Here's our virtual format.

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The proceedings are being recorded.

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With your participation, you agree to be recorded.

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The video will be available by contacting kathleen.grady at phillip.gov.

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For our court stenographer, we ask attorneys and witnesses to identify themselves before

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testifying.

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If you're participating by phone, press star 9 to raise your hand and star 6 to unmute.

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To enter an appearance statement, call 267-270-5548.

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Leave your email address and the address of the property in question.

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And finally, the question answer box on the screen is not for comments or testimony.

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All comments should be directed to our Deputy Director, Kathleen Green.

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Let's look at our schedule for today.

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Number one.

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Number one.

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Number one, MI 2022, 005-549-1500 Winsome Street.

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There's a request for contingence.

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It's Mr. Hal Shermer in the audience, the attorney.

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Good morning, Chair.

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This is Yvette Benton.

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I'll be your co-host for today.

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Thank you.

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Mr. Shermer has been allowed to speak.

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Good morning, Mr. Shermer.

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Could you please state your name and spell it for the court's an offer?

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Yes.

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Good morning, Mr. Chairman, members of the board.

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My name is Hal, H-A-L, last name Schirmer, S-C-H-I-R-M-E-R.

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You swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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Yes, I do.

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Mr. Schirmer, this is the fifth listing.

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Could you give us a status?

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Yes.

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This appeal was previously before the board on April 10th when at the request of the 10th Ward RCO and with the support of councilman's office, we requested a continuance.

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On April 8th, we had spoken with the 10th Ward RCO and they said they would be able to schedule a RCO and neighbor hearing once the ZBA had scheduled the next hearing.

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They initially said that we might be able to get a hearing on April 29th.

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About four hours later, they called back or wrote back and said that would not work.

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When this was rescheduled, I posted the property as required, notified the RCO as required,

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called back to the RCO, and then two weeks ago heard from the RCO that they discontinue RCO work over the summer.

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They take the summer off, and the next available time that they would be meeting would be September.

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So, based on the request from the RCO and with the support of the Councilman's Office, I'm requesting that we continue this to, I think it's September 25th or October 2nd, so that we can meet with the RCO when they resume their RCO duties.

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Thank you, Mr. Shermer. MI 2022-005-549-1500 Winslow Street. Cases continued. Mark must be heard. Thank you, sir.

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Thank you.

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Number three.

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MI 2023-005-774-1616 North 2nd Street. Case has been continued. Attorney needed.

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Case has been continued.

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Attorney needed.

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Number five, MI 2023-006-092-2105, South Simpson Street.

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This case is continued.

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Number six, MI 2023-006-880-3200 Cotman Street, that case has been continued.

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Excuse me, Mr. Chair, can we see if anybody is here for 3200 Cotman Avenue?

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If there are anyone present for 3200 Cotman Street, Chennai Daru is the listed owner.

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I see no hands at this time, Chair.

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MI 2023-006-880-3200-Cottman Avenue.

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Cases continued.

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Mark must be heard.

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Number 11.

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MI 2024-001-286-513-South 13th Street.

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Case is continued. Number 12, MI 2024-001-287-1305-Robin Street. That case is continued.

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Number 14, MI 2024-001-519-2128 Ridge Avenue. Case is continued. And number 16,

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mi 2024 001 548 1307 robin street that case is continued are there any other requests for

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continuances chair we have a call in user with their hand up call in the user please

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unmute yourself and wait for the chair

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good morning could you good morning could you please state your name and spell for the court

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stenographer yeah tiffany green concerned citizens appoint sure sure just do me a favor spell your

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name for the stenographers please t-i-f-f-a-n-y all right do you swear or affirm to tell the truth

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told truth nothing but the truth yeah um okay i just want to get clarification 1329 south 22nd

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street i thought they were supposed to be declared um continuous today did you listen did you call

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that out sir hold on a minute miss green did you say 1329 south 22nd street yes that is on the two

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o'clock list and we did receive a request for continuance that's why you didn't hear it this

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morning okay thank you very much okay you're welcome thank you any other requests for continuance

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chair i see no hands at this time okay thank you and number two

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mi 2023 002 377 2655 south hutchinson street

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do we have a mandarin interpreter in the audience

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chair we have a mike wang with the hand up okay wang please unmute yourself and wait for the chair

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good morning sir good morning this is mike wang mandarin interpreter thank you very much um could

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you spell your name for the court sonographer uh first name official spelling m as in mary e i

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hyphen h as in henry ui last name w a n g do you swear a firm to tell the truth the whole truth

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nothing but the truth yes i do could you call the case for us it's 25 26 55 south putcheson street

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call the case and then i'll give you the names

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Sorry, this is interpreted

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Okay, you want me to address

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It's 2655 South Hutchinson Street

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H.U. Hongming Sen

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2655 South Hutchinson Street

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Hongming Sen

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请问您在线上吗?

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I see no hands at this time, Chair.

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I was going to say, the other owner is

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Shang Chao Ming.

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Yes.

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Shang Chao Ming.

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Mm-hmm.

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I see no hands at this time, Chair,

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and I see no one in the audience with that name.

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Thank you very much.

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Chair, hold on a minute.

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Someone just put their hand...

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Okay, their hand was up.

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It was Sam Zhu.

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Their head was up, but they just put it down.

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their head was up but they just put it down

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they are there

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That's the expediter in this case.

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We hadn't received any communication from the applicant for the hearing today.

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However, we did receive an email from a neighbor indicating that the property was not posted for today's hearing.

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Could I ask the interpreter if you could put that information on the record, just indicate that we had not heard from the property owner about this hearing, and we received information from a neighbor that the property was not posted as required for the hearing?

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地址沒有被列在今天聽證會的信息,

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沒有公告這個地址的聽證會的信息。

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We have...

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Thank you.

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We have...

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All right, hold on.

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Hold on, who is speaking?

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Mr. Sam Hsu, the applicant,

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I posted the posters and sent the...

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Excuse me, Mr. Zhu,

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We need to swear you in.

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Sir, could you state your name and spell for the court stenographer?

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Sam Xu.

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Spell it, please.

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S-A-M-X-U.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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Yes.

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First question, are the owners of the property here?

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They are on the other line, yes.

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Okay. We do not have any exhibits. This is the fifth listing.

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We sent in all the exhibits. And then two days ago, I sent in the picture of the posters and the text clearance. That was two days ago.

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Hillary, did you receive any of that?

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I do not. I do not believe so. Not according to our records.

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and we really do need to speak with the the owners we want the owners on the phone

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uh can you guys speak up yeah speak up yeah hi i'm here my name is okay spell your

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could all right have the interpreter please tell him to state his name and spell for the

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I'm going to say, do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but

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the truth.

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Yes.

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Okay.

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Interpreter, could you ask them where his documents are and where does he stand on this

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project?

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请问您的文件在什么地方,然后您现在的这个进度到哪里了?

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The design is completed on my computer, and I have sent it to you.

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We do not have it.

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We're going to move on with this.

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We're going to continue this case one more time, and that's it, okay?

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They'll have to have everything in one time, the next time, and be prepared. Please tell them that.

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We haven't received it yet, so we have to continue to continue. We will be doing this on the next day.

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In the next time, you have to be prepared for the information you need to send to us here.

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So MI 2023-002-377-2655 South Hutchinson Street.

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Cases continued

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Mark must be heard

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Mr. Wang, could you tell him that, please?

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Sure, okay

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Thank you, thank you very much

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And interpreter, thank you for your time

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No problem

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Thank you for using our service

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You all have a wonderful day

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Bye-bye

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You too, thank you

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Right

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Number nine, MI 2024-001-273, 2000 South 21st Street.

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21st street lisa the t-h-e is the listed owner we have no exhibits this is the first listing

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Lisa Thee, T-H-E, is the listed owner.

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lisa the please raise your virtual hand

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she should be coming back in as a panelist

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good morning could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer

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Lisa?

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Okay, I see her, Chair. I don't know why she's trying to give.

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Hi, Lisa, could you please? Chair, she's right at the panelists.

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Okay. She's still on the attendee's side.

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Ms. Hand, can you hold on a moment while I try again? She doesn't

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need to be promoted. We do not have her documents.

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so okay so could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer um my first name is

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lisa l-i-s-a last name is t-h-e-t-s in tango h-s in harry e-s in echo all right do you swear

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for him to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth yes i do we do not have your

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documents of as of yet um so i i just got one email and like all of the email has like four

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attachments um i'm just not sure what documents are you guys requiring for me so here here's what

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listen listen to me this is what we're going to do we're going to continue your case yes and we're

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going to in in the uh in the chat room we'll leave a phone number you can call our office and we'll

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tell you what you need to have for the next time okay okay so i'm just uh excuse me here excuse me

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ma'am? Yes. I will put our contact information, our address, phone number, and email in the chat

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that way we can further assist you. Okay, that will be great. Thank you so much. I appreciate it.

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Sure. So MI 2024-001-273-2000-South 21st Street, this case is continued. We're going to go to our

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Add on list. Number one, MI 2024. 001 383 3515 Shelburne Street. I vote yes.

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Michael John. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Michael John. My vote is yes.

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