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ZBA Hearing - October 8, 2025

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Oct 8, 20258h 7m

They, um, they would be shortened down to 5 PM.

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Okay.

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All right. Thank you. You have any questions from the board?

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I have a question. Is this an existing use or are you proposing any changes?

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No changes. Where was it? It's basically the same description that was used back in 2016.

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16. It's the first floor with the existing living

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It's the first floor with the existing living above, which I don't rent.

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That has nothing to do with my commercial lease.

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And again, it would be for sit down and take out restaurant.

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So the property was like this when you leased it?

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Correct. Yes, that's why I had interest in the property.

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and when did the lease come into effect uh it's been almost a year now i've been

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november 16th 2024 to be exact

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okay any other questions from the board oh so so the um

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if if approved this will be for both takeout and for sit down is that what i'm hearing on it

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Yeah. Yes. I guess my question is to Hillary. I just don't really have the space for sit down. So when I added sit down on the application, it was just for the purpose. If they were there waiting for their food to be prepped. I guess I put us I provided a chair for them. But as far as tables, I don't I'm not going to be supplying that.

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No, I hear what you're saying. I'm just trying to understand. Can we can we issue both?

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Or does it? I know we had a defined area.

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Takeout, I believe, has to be fewer than four.

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and that was more than four

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that was more than four

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it is my understanding that it's

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L&I's position that a permit

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can be issued for both uses in the same

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location

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so that will be any questions

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any more questions or comments from our attorney

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just

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a clarification

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you said the uses on the

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first floor are you

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utilizing the basement as well

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the basement yes i do have access to the basement that's going to be um generally for supplies if

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need be but right now i haven't i don't have nothing down i have i have no use on it right

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now at the moment i have no use of anything everything's been closed i've been waiting for

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this um decision to come through okay um and i do see um that there is a sign on the property

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and the refusal specifically says

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there's not signage included with this.

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So I just wanted to bring that to your attention

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because you may need to apply

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for a separate permit for the signage.

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Oh, let me note that.

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Okay, thank you.

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Yes.

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You're welcome.

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And question about your hours of operation.

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Did I hear you correctly?

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7 a.m.

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7 a.m. to 7 p.m., correct.

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Monday through Friday or Monday through Saturday?

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Monday through Saturday.

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okay and then 7 a.m and we'll shorten the hours down to like 5 p.m on sunday all right okay thank

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you i have questions from our virtual audience

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no hands at this time okay thank you and planning commission good evening liz fuselay for the

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philadelphia planning commission the comprehensive plan recommends no change

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to the existing neighborhood commercial mixed-use zoning at this location there is a documented

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history of eating and drinking establishments in the area and the appellant has demonstrated that

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the proposed use would not create impacts more detrimental than what could otherwise be expected

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from other uses in that location the city planning commission therefore recommends the board grant

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the requested variance for a sit-down takeout restaurant okay um so hillary i don't have to

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specified basement or whatever just um because there are other uses at the property i would

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if you're going to approve it specify that the use is limited to the first floor and basement

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okay um and that's the proviso that is correct thank you okay mi20250018994750 rising sun

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avenue i vote yes with proviso uh limited to what uh first floor and basement first floor

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and basement. My vote is yes with proviso.

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Cheryl Gaston, my vote is yes with proviso.

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Emily Persego, my vote is yes with proviso.

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Thank you. Thank you guys. Have a good evening.

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Thank you so much. Okay. Winding it down.

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Number eight, MI

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I-2025-001886-627-North-60.

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8, 6, 67, 60, no, 627 North 64th Street.

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Lariah Rice.

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Oh, oh, you're here.

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Did I pronounce your name right?

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No, it was Lariah.

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Lariah.

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Okay, I would have never gotten that.

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All right, thank you for waiting.

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You want to state your name and spell it for the record.

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Yes, my name is Lariah Rice, L-A-R-R-Y-A, R-I-C-E.

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Oh, sorry.

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oh can you hear me now it's okay um laria rice l-a-r-r-y-a last name rice r-i-c-e

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okay and do you swear to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth yes all right and

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your relationship to the property i'm the owner all right uh so board member gaskin has some

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questions to ask you uh okay did you um submit your documents five days in advance of this hearing

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Yes, everything except two things which have since been approved, my zoning hearing notice and my actual presentation, but they've since been approved.

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Okay, thank you. And then this application is for the use of two-family household living in an existing semi-detached structure. And you have a use refusal because two-family household living is prohibited in the RSA3 zoning district.

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That's correct.

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Okay.

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So you can proceed with your presentation.

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Thank you.

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Okay.

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We have some letters of support, a letter of support from the Neighbors of Overbrook Association.

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There was two in support and two in opposition.

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So I don't know if you have that part of your...

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I do not.

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Two in non, sorry, two in non-opposition?

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I'm sorry, two in non-opposition.

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I have the A-list because that is on your opposition.

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opposition um one second i'm just gonna bring this up and bear with us you're the last one

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save the best for last absolutely i like that sorry i'm gonna start from the beginning

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here just share my screen

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welcome

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content only

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okay can everyone see my screen

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yep okay we can see it

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alrighty I'm just going to make this short as I can

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okay so basically

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this is just some information

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so the home I purchased the home August 30th of last year

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from my mother. She had the property from about 2012.

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Prior to, it was used as a family daycare center.

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It's currently RSA, single family, residential

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single family, semi-attached. So these are just

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some things that you probably already have in my exhibit. This is the deed.

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This is the tax clearance certificate, refusal letter. So basically

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the use of a two-family household living is

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expressly prohibited as a RSA 3 in the zoning

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district. Application of appeal, I'll summarize

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this as I go through my presentation, but basically there's no

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I want to relieve financial hardship

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of the property. It was once a single family

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with a mother, three kids, and now it's just one person, myself.

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So there will not be any addition of

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congestion, street congestion, external changes, no public danger, no decrease in light air or

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pollution to the neighborhood. So this is my project information form. This is the zoning

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notice posted timestamps. So I'm just going to go through the photos and then my plans.

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So this is the front of the property. As you can see on the right or most pictures where I store

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my trash and recyclables, that's on the right side of the house facing the house. I have a walkway

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share it with the neighboring twin property. As you come down this walkway, this is the walkway

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that will lead to the private entrance of my proposed private unit, which I will be used.

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It would be the basement of my single family home. So I'm going to continue. It's all central

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area heating. These are the two windows that are in the basement slash proposed unit. This is the

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entrance into the backyard which will be a shared space and as you see here this

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would be the private entrance as you can see on the side where those steps are

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that is the entrance that I have into the basement from the first floor shed

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kitchen so this door is a completely separate entrance to the to downstairs

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so as you can see coming through the entryway here it's initially storage

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um it's initially storage here i don't know if before that they used this for like a back

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here i don't know if before that they used this for like a back

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like a shed enclosed porch because that is a functional window um so coming down there's

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three steps um that is the electrical panel right there for the entire house um you can't see where

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that arrow is right there i don't have a good picture of it but the arrow there and this arrow

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pointing this is the doorway which leads up into my kitchen um that would be as i'll explain in

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my plans that'll be closed off a door will be built there and they will be all fire rated

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there to limit access to the two properties the two units where this circle is is where i propose

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to add a kitchenette um and cooking space um there's a bathroom on the other end of that so

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this would be considered the living area right here um and i'm just going to back up the two

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windows there and this door here because based off my plans and the amount of egress that I have

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I'm going to advertise this as an oversized studio but so I don't have to add an extra

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point of egress so this door will be removed for so that it will be an open studio space

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and as you can see here the entryway there's another two doors that this will continue into

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the studio space this door to the left is the bathroom which I have shown here it is a full

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bathroom um with a full shower right now um and this is continuing into the studio space here

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laundry uh washer dryers already set in stone there all the utilities are still uh will remain

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in the basement that is the hot water heater the furnace and the gas closet which you see up above

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and right here to the left and the left last picture is a window i don't believe it's a

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functioning window but it is a window um so i'm just going to get into my plans uh they've been

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sealed by James A. Clancy as the engineer. No structural changes. Basically, I'm just going to

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go through. I'm just going to. Are these large enough or would you like me to expand them?

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Yeah. No problem. So I'm just going to start from the back. So back here where it says foundation,

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this is the start of the going into the proposed new unit. You see the storage area and the two

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steps that go down um where you see this this l this red l shape that will be the fire rated

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entryway that will be made into a door that will that conjoins right now it conjoins the kitchen

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my kitchen on the first floor so that will be one hour fire rated um and there will be a door there

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with a locked door that would limit access to the two units um as you can see this is a living space

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the two windows to the left the kitchen area which i pointed out in the circled area and my

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pictures will be added to this space because there is currently no kitchen down in the basement

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you go here in the doorway which will be removed to make this a studio space

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the bathroom full bathroom is already there laundry studio hookup studio space sorry so

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I'm going to go to the first floor first floor is my entry so I'm kind of going to start backwards

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So this is my porch and my entry into my first floor of the house, which is completely separate from the one in the backyard.

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So my living space, my dining space, and my kitchen.

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And as you can see here where the red lines are, that is the entryway that goes downstairs into the unit,

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which will be, again, fire rated and closed off to limit access to the downstairs proposed unit.

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So where are your utilities, like your hot water tank and all that?

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There's only one right now for the whole entire house.

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Okay.

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Yeah, it's just one for the entire house.

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And your meters will still be in the basement as well?

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That's correct.

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Okay, so you have access to the basement?

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I do.

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Okay.

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Yes.

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So this is just the third, sorry, the second floor,

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which the only change up here, I'm just going to go through.

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So the steps up here go to, there's four bedrooms, full bathroom,

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And in this third bedroom, I want to have an additional laundry space built into the room with a laundry closet that would be separate from myself.

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So outside of the utilities, the only thing that I would need to change is the washer dryer space.

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um other than that uh my target audience um like i said it wouldn't cause any extra congestion

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because um the house was used as a house that had multiple people in it so as far as parking

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i wouldn't it wouldn't surpass what was already it was used for um i'm targeting single professionals

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um i don't want to have like airbnb use so this would be long-term rental so so you want to just

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convert your basement into a unit and why

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you stay on the second and third floor. I mean the first and

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second floor. Yes. Okay. All right.

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yes okay all right um questions from the board so i guess i i've got a well question so you so

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Questions from the board?

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