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ZBA Hearing - January 21, 2026

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Jan 21, 20266h 17m

rectory there is an entry vestibule with a stair and a lift so that's how people that would they

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would enter into the building there they're going so the people so the people so and so but the but

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the rectory building and the annex building aren't interconnected sorry there's one other entry if

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you're asking about how you get into the annex building from the parking lot there's a staircase

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if you look at the there's two there's three parking spaces then there's the staircase that

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comes down to down to grade that's correct there's a stair that's awesome that's how they access the

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air the the annex from the parking lot and they have to go down the driveway and across to that

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corner to get into the church and and and rectory building they just go to that inside corner correct

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right right i got you okay assuming there's no handicap accessible units in the annex because

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the only way to get in is via stair no so so there so you have your handicap spaces there

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okay you do you there is there is a handicap accessible unit on the first floor of the

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annex um a level above this above that and and there is a um and there is a lift so

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So there is a, in that vestibule, there is a lift that takes you up within the rectory

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and church.

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There is a lift that takes you to the first floor, and then there is a path where you

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go across that deck to the building.

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And is the deck covered?

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The deck is not covered.

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So you have to go inside to go outside to come back inside the apartment building?

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That's only if you're parking there.

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Now, there is a handicapped lift accessible from Pollard, not lift, ramp from Pollard

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Street.

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okay and is the the building is considered an addition or is the annex considered a separate

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building it's considered a separate building so that is one of the refusals that we would

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have a second principal building on the site okay um the architect is on um online if we figured it

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out just so again it's there is there a floor plan or so i oh yeah i guess that's the big

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question i feel like i really am interested in the first floor plan we do have plans um

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i'm hoping that uh but i'm also thinking just like practically i live in a building same questions i

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asked earlier if i'm getting an amazon delivery if i have to call an uber if i have a friend that's

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coming over like there's a lot of ways into this building and a lot of fissures and connectivity

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to the other two principal buildings on the site and i feel like at the ground floor level i'm not

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really understanding the difference between bikes and people and infrastructure and like that's

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usually what happens on the ground floor plan and right now i get the parking part i get how the

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cars are going but i'm not really clear how this building is operating as a as a multi-family

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building in this empty space so understood so uh michael if you could walk through

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uh mail delivery or you know trash collection things like that of the building right if if

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you recall earlier there was a garage shown on pilot street there is a there is an entry on

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adjacent to that um which is on the bottom of that drawing on pollard that that you walk up you walk

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straight there and then there's a staircase and or you go up the ramp. That gets you into that

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central sort of communal deck area that connects all three buildings. So it's like an outdoor

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plaza. An outdoor plaza, correct. And that is a very convenient, easy way to enter all three

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buildings. And, you know, as I said, there are two additional entrants. One is that residents

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will have to take. One is on the front door of the rectory, which is on Front Street, and then

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the front main entry door to the church you mentioned whether we should have put the deck

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area under cover we don't have that luxury it's historic building so we would be then putting a

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a lean-to roof on on the outside of the historic building um so that that i don't think would be

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acceptable um sean's previously mentioned that we we had a larger building approved initially for the

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annex by historic and that was a four-story building um it didn't go all the way the street

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was similar, but it was wider, and we were concerned about light air and sight lines,

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and it was a comment that was made by historic, so we decided to reduce the massing of the

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building. The comment about foundations is the floor, first floor of the church had a very heavy

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design, you know, floor that was existing, and there was an expectation, a reasonable expectation

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you would have been able to build off it, but the soils turned out to be incredibly poor,

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and this church itself is settled somewhere around about a foot itself it's a big monolithic structure

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somewhere around about a foot itself. It's a big monolithic structure. And interestingly enough,

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it hasn't cracked when it did it, but we've had to remove the first floor and go in and everything

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that we're doing inside there is all new construction with new foundations inside a

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building. So it is a challenge. And as you mentioned, the windows meet historic preservation

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guidelines and so does the roof detail approvals the so as a tenant if they have to go through

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the other two buildings or come up the stairs what's going to happen at night when the

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when the church is closed no the the our buildings typically operate we we own and operate develop

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and then own and operate buildings um continue to own them um we use the latch system so the

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tenant will have access to you know any you know any of those entry doors and so

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it really depends where tenants arriving from I mean the logical entry door here

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would be on Pollock but if somebody's walking down Allen Street it's it's an

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easy pathway through the church I mean it's a covered pathway that would take

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the same time as if they were walking on the outside and it's secured so like

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they can't access the other parts of the church building I'm assuming as a tenant

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well we don't limit a tenant in the building to one part of the building or not so a tenant

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it you know you you only limit so somebody in living in the annex can access the front

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door to the church yes and walk down the corridor in the church okay

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and i'm going to ask again is there a floor plan

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can we call saying that there is our architect i think there is one done but was not submitted

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as part of this package they're trying to get the architect the architect has it

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the architect of the line yes uh bart bada b-a-j-d-e-d-a architecture yes he's been promoted

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it okay sir please state your name and spell for the stenographer

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good afternoon uh my name is bart b-a-r-t last name b-a-j-d-a and i apologize i have a little

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i've been coming off a cold so my voice is a little harsh hold on do you swear or affirm to

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tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth i do are you going to present yes all right

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go ahead uh bart are you the project architect yes thank you very much do you have floor plans

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that you could present for us i do i'm assuming you guys are interested in the annex floor plans

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so this is what we're looking at here uh this is the basement level and i think this will clear up

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some of the confusion so far but there is here are the seven parking spaces with a central stair

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what's not quite shown here because this is only depicting the annex building is the entrance into

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the church portion which occurs right around here at the basement level which is made clear here

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So there's an entry lobby here with a lift that can take you back up to the first floor, which connects to that deck area.

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Well, yeah, which connects to this deck area here, at which point there is another entrance into the annex building right here on the south side of the building.

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And that's shown here.

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So yeah, as mentioned, there are six units, all the two ground floor units here are accessible

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type B units as required.

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This one majority of them are roughly 700 square feet except with the exception of this

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one here being a little bit smaller at 500 feet just due to the corridor access required.

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And then moving on upward, you have similar units, roughly 700 square feet at the front, one in the back, or one in the front, one in the back, and then again at the third floor, one in the back, one in the front, all one-bedroom units, quite large, with the two upper units also having roof deck access, which both are about 400 square feet of roof deck.

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This is just a rough 3D view of what we're proposing, and I'm not sure if there's any

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other questions or if that answers the trash area that we discussed is located here, right

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off of Pollard Street.

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This is all outdoor area, as mentioned, so it provides a little bit of a communal space

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for tenants of the building.

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And then this is that mail delivery area that has been described so far.

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that mail delivery area that that has been described so far.

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So for the annex building tenants are going to have to get their mail on Pollard Street

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and they'll sort of be like one from for the effectiveness of this development there's like one

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no the United States Postal Service mail will go into the building itself that's for packages

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only packages only okay so where is the mail like where is the mail in the annex

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but you want to do that it's

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so there is a lounge and to the north of that drawing north of that in that um near that

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staircase area there's the mail area yeah but that's for packages right no that's the the mail

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boxes will be in the area close to where he has his cursor right yeah packages packages that will

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be um you know in that that room outside what we find when we operate a building like this the

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package people just open the best meal and toss we have a really hard time getting them to bring

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them to the mail area and as the mail area is a little further inside that's not a problem with

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the united states personal service mail service but it's a problem with packages so we put the

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package room close to that side gate so that we can direct and all the packages to come just in

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that side gate and into that what's called the mail room to be clear the mail room is in the

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existing buildings that are already on the property not the new building that has six units

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correct okay that is what i was so are there so now now i'm confused so so there's so there's

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one mail room for the entire complex yes where the mail not not the not the not the package room

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but they're for for regular mail that's delivered there's one mail room for the for the complex

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correct okay and the seven parking spaces are the only seven parking spaces for the whole development

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correct okay so who gets those seven parking spaces are they assigned are they first come

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first serve no they're assigned as part of uh releasing so they're gonna be like a person's

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to like purchase a parking permit to be able to park in the back all right so if i'm calling an

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uber or if somebody's picking me up all that's going to happen on the regular street on pollard

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or on all right okay any other questions questions from our attorney um just a quick comment if you

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could submit those floor plans by close of business tomorrow to include with the exhibits

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that would be great thank you so much questions or comments from the virtual audience

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there are no aims planning commission amy boy with the planning commission the comprehensive plan

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recommends no change in zoning at this location from the current rsa 5 residential single family

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this property already has a multi-family conversion of a former church building

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This zoning permit was issued by Wright under ZP-2025-002901 due to historic structures permissions.

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The appellant has not demonstrated that the proposed six units are the least minimum or that there are unique physical conditions or circumstances of the property that would prevent it from being used in conformance with the zoning code for multiple principal buildings or rear yard depth.

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The Planning Commission recommends that the board deny the requested variances for multi-family, multiple principal uses, sorry, for multi-family for the additional units, multiple principal buildings, and rear yard depth.

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Do you want to respond?

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Certainly. Just very briefly. First and foremost, because of that existing garage at the rectory building, the rear yard depth is already an existing condition.

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we are not exacerbating that or changing that um this we we have i think i've already walked

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through why this is the least minimum variance we're not even back to the eight units that was

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approved by right under the zoning code or with the historic commission approval and we've been

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pulling back this building both from the street and in height and massing as much as possible

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to reduce it to only that which is required to overcome the hardship which is evident from the

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building itself. Thank you. So MI 2025, 005352, 1032 North Front Street, TA456223. I vote yes.

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Michael Johns, my vote is yes. Cheryl Gaston, my vote is yes.

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Tannetta Graham, my vote is yes.

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Ryan McAdams, my vote is yes.

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I win, my vote is yes.

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Thank you very much.

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You have another one here, right?

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i have one more yes okay why don't we do that right thank you

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let me just make sure my you know what sean um a couple of my team members up here we just want

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a little break give us five minutes oh sure okay okay all right i wouldn't mind one either so blame

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Give us five minutes.

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Oh, sure.

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How's that?

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I wouldn't mind one either, so blame it on me.

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it on me.

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You can take six.

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Thank you.

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MI-20, thank you.

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MI-2025-005-421-112 East Allen Street.

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Sean Whalen is the attorney.

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Sean, could you just state your name?

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and because you've already been sworn. Sean Whalen, W-H-A-L-E-N. Right. And could you

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identify your client, the relationship to the property? Certainly. Perez Therapy is the

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commercial tenant. And I understand that we have a letter of support from Fishtown Neighbors

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and a letter of non-opposition from Council Member Young. Our vice chair has just a few

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questions for you sir certainly good afternoon have you submitted your documents and exhibits

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five days in advance of this hearing yes and do you waive the reading of the refusal and stipulate

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to its accuracy yes i do all right thank you can show your screen and proceed with your case and

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mr chair i just want to note that we received the interior photos and um the lease addendum

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that we requested so we have all the documents yes okay great okay so um as i promised this one

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will be much shorter and is much uh in the true sense of the word straightforward um

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this property here you can see right along north delaware going back to east allen and right off

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of frankfurt um not surprisingly an extremely busy corridor you have the fillmore this is a very large

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apartment building right next door this is this very small building that we're talking about

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right here all commercial uses and rivers casino across the street so now here's a zoomed in aerial

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of just the building we're talking about it has a tiny little five foot wide but technically open

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public street called sarah street that goes here little more than an alley that is right next to

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this very large apartment building next to us and what you have is this small building is about 930

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square feet total the building itself is divided about 70 30 between residential uses existing

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residential uses and this existing commercial use so where you see right here this kind of hard

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black line across that's actually the roof line going up towards the top here is west allen so

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the west allen is a residential street on this on this one block and then there's a hard stop right

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here full almost full party wall there's no access between the residential or the commercial

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and there's no access from the commercial back to east allen so what we're talking about is this

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portion right here of the property. Interestingly, you can see in the heart of what we're dealing

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with, this is an RSA 5 property. Very strangely, again, there's an existing, I believe, three

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family, multi-family residential on the East Allen side. We are not talking about

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that portion at all this only involves the very small commercial space that fronts onto north

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delaware so we actually have one referral for a special exception and one refusal in short

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we need to put commercial in this area the small portion of the property even though it's

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existing and we also need a referral to have commercial non-residential use on the second

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floor so again here i'm standing right now right at the curb at north delaware avenue this is the

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existing building right here you can see sarah street is right on the left like i said basically

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an alley there is an existing sign the sign is not part of this application or the variance

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question that has been approved since at least 2007 commercial use at this in this portion of

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the property blockbuster it is it may also have been a blockbuster who knows um that was a blast

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from the past uh so what you have is this access point right here uh this is the main door you

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walk in and then there's a waiting room and one office on the first floor and then one office

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on the second floor and i have photos and floor plans oh miss gaston's not here

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so what we have here

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So, what we have here is, so this is the existing floor plan. This hard red line, that's what I was talking about, about a 30% of the way into the building.

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