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ZBA Hearing - January 21, 2026

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Jan 21, 20266h 17m

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Mr chairman and members of the board we have had the privilege of appearing before this zoning board of adjustment several times in the past, although I recognize that several current board members were not here when we were last before the board.

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north bowl uh is located on second street in northern liberties and i think it's fair to say

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that it's a beloved institution an integral part of the fabric of the community you can see

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in this aerial photograph on the screen where my cursor is that there is a structure that's set

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back and in the front is an open area that open area has been the site of seasonal outdoor

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activities primarily from april to october and those outdoor activities have been in conjunction

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with the organized community it has been part of second street festivals we've worked with

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the Coordinating RCO, Northern Liberty Neighbors Association, and with others. And as we were

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sitting here this morning, Arone mentioned to me that North Bowl will be celebrating its 20th

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anniversary in the neighborhood this year. So it really is an important part of the community.

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Why are we here? We have had a series of temporary variances for the outdoor activities,

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which we would like to make permanent and we've worked closely with the coordinating RCO on that

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which I'll get to momentarily but the outdoor activities themselves it's relevant to mention

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predate the pandemic when many of us became aware of the importance of both indoor and outdoor and

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uh livening up the streetscape for many reasons being active participants in the community

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so i i wanted to share that somewhat lengthy background with you uh regarding what brings

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us here today here you can see some photographs for context on the right you can see just behind

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the trees uh the the letters b-o-w-l for north ball and to the left the black and white stripes

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is the chess cafe banquet hall that some of you may have been at since that has also become a

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Philadelphia institution completely unrelated you can see that on the left here's a photograph

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sort of bird's eye I would say from our structure looking down on the outdoor area and across the

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street to give you some additional context and uh here is a photograph from a pedestrian's viewpoint

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walking along the sidewalk in front of north bull

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to the right here is uh one of the uh seasonal um uh structures of uh so in in cold weather like

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this it would not be used but in warm weather it opens up and it becomes a place for drinks

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and snacks in addition to the games that take place in the outdoor area

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and one more photograph of streetscape

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the existing zoning approval the last one that was approved by this board dates to 2023

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and again we're not here for the existing north bowl use the indoor use which is bowling and

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food and entertainment that's been there for a long time although we're happy to talk about it

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We're really focusing on the outdoor. And this zoning board, through a decision that resulted in this permit dated March 22nd, 2023, provided for a three-year temporary permit expiring this coming April 1st for the outdoor use with some provisos that we have honored.

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And in fact, in what's before you today, in working with Northern Liberty Neighbors Association, to, I would say, to balance the residential and the commercial, the provisos, the conditions that we have agreed to, regardless of what this board determines, become slightly more restrictive, actually.

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And I need to also note that slightly more restrictive, not regarding any incidents that have taken place, but really based on the partnership that Iran has with the community and doing the right thing.

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but really based on the partnership that aron has with the community and doing the right thing into

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the future making sure that there's comfort on the part of the organized community to anticipate

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to the best of its ability the unanticipated into the future so there are the old records and the

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old refusal and and now i'd like to move if i may to conceptual renderings the application before

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The board calls to permanently approve the prior Zba approval, including the erection of a tourist outdoor patio area, a pavilion and shading canopy.

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So on the left, you can see that when we talk about the pavilion, it is open.

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you see it when you're walking by you're invited in it's not a closed space it's it's what we're

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all longing for right now in terms of warm outdoor weather but uh it's it's the vibrancy

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of uh second street but within the property line and here you can see uh a uh aerial uh rendering

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of what hopefully I've described for you to give you a sense of the different spaces there.

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So as previously presented to the board, the outdoor areas have been used for several years

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during warm weather months for outdoor bocce, dining, the seasonal bar, and that was what I

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had shown you closed up. It's actually a shipping container. It's a creative use of a shipping

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container on the right you can see it in the in the green in this concept um and this had previously

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been going back years now a parking area um and this this is embraced by the community so what

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had once been six parking spaces plus a handicap parking space pre-covered is now uh used um

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and we believe more of a highest and best use uh that has has been embraced in a really creative

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way the project as i mentioned has been supported by a northern liberty neighbors association

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uh council member mark squilla has also submitted to the zoning board i confirmed with ms emerson

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uh the council members uh position of non-opposition which effectively supports

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the organized community and the nlna letter uh has certain agreed upon conditions that the outdoor

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occupancy uh would be for 50 people whereas last it was 60. uh far more would be permitted uh

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But there is an agreement that has been honored in place, and that is for regular events.

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Now, Second Street Festival, there are, I don't want to get into the nitty-gritty unless the board wishes, but Second Street Festival, for example, which is an annual festival, there's a carve-out, which actually NLNA would like to have.

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I mentioned that the use of the outdoor space would be April to October, which is in keeping with prior ZBA granting of temporary relief. Games would stop at 8.30, outdoor music to end at 10 p.m. Sunday through Thursday, 11 p.m. Friday and Saturday.

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And any outdoor speakers will be positioned towards the existing structure, towards the existing north bulb.

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Six outdoor performances are contemplated as a maximum per year.

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And then also, in an additional effort to address the interests of the nearest of neighbors, indoor music within the long-existing North Pole would end at midnight with soundproofing.

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Also, Aron has committed to on-site security.

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the notice of refusal that the board has in its file addresses the extension of the previously

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approved assembly and entertainment use which is prohibited under the North Delaware Avenue

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overlay district the existing assembly entertainment has this 20-year reputation

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which we mentioned and the request before the board for the extension is in response

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to neighborhood requests, and I would say an unofficial partnership for this outdoor component.

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Also, LNI has identified the necessity of the occupied area variants being 88% proposed

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versus 75% permitted for the open structures that I shared with you in the conceptual plans,

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and i can share with you momentarily in more detailed zoning plans i would i would submit that

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more detailed zoning plans i would i would submit that this is technical in nature and concerns the

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this is

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placement of the bar structure in the former parking lot also there is the parking refusal

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as there had been before to document and confirm the permanent removal of the prior accessory

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parking the documents that are in the file show the prior temporary approvals that uh

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were deemed appropriate for the desired outdoor community building use this has been extensively

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reviewed at the community level here we have the zoning site plan and i'll show you elevations

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on the left you can see and i know it's difficult to see with the broad overview but just for a

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moment on the left is the proposed site plan and on the right is the existing we're only talking

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about those open structures in the front and actually it's really quite similar in almost

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every aspect because we're taking temporary making it permanent with some minor i would say

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modifications based on knowing how the property has been used here you can see elevations which

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are really showing the compliant fencing being reinstalled and you can see the shading area and

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the pavilions for example this is not the technical zoning site plan but a almost like a floor plan

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it's showing you an outdoor layout of tables and chair areas and again we have committed to the 50

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maximum so you're seeing in terms of actual bodies but there is room to move around

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communal tables and things will have flexibility for games for tables and chairs and benches to

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be moved you won't have as much flexibility with over here with the bar area and of course the

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shaded coverings but actually under the shaded coverings you do have flexibility to move around

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as well. Mr. Chairman and members of the board we believe that the authorization of variance relief

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will not alter the character of the neighborhood or district or be detrimental to the public

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welfare the documentation and confirmation of these uses and structures actually preserve

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the character that has been built of this neighborhood and district a mixed-use nature of

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vibrant second street the proposal fits into the surrounding neighborhood as evidenced by

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the support of record and this speaks to the granted of relief being of benefit to the public

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within the spirit of the zoning code the proposed variants would represent the minimum variance

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that would afford relief and will represent the least modification possible of the regulation at

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issue the zoning code which predates covid19 of course and the emergence of communal

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ideas of general welfare healthy living and use of communal space indoor outdoor really speak to

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this perhaps being a model for mixed-use communities the grant of variance relief will

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not substantially increase congestion in the public streets increase the danger of fire

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or otherwise endanger the public health safety or general welfare the agreed upon

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conditions further support those statements. This will not adversely affect transportation

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or unduly burdened water, sewer school park, or other public facilities. There are no

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environmental issues. Mr. Daskal is here, and I would be happy to go over anything that we put

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on the record. So why don't you state your name and spell it for the sonographer? Sure. My name

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is Aron Daskal, first name O-R-O-N, last name D-Lake David, A-S-K-A-L. Right. Do you swear or affirm

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to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth? I do. Counsel? Mr. Daskal, you've been

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present during the entirety of this proceeding before the Zoning Board of Adjustment. Would you

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adopt and affirm the testimony that I've offered as your own? I do. Thank you. Questions from the

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board. Yes, I'd like to hear your take on the community's concerns. Sure, Mr. Johns. We know

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this community very well, and both I and Mr. Daskal know it well. I should note that Aron and

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his growing family, his wife and children, live in the neighborhood.

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growing family his wife and children live in the neighborhood and he is

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completely accessible Larry Friedman who is one of the zoning co-chairs of NLNA

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has really worked closely with us on on this matter and in past hearings before

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the board on the temporary uh request uh there was some concern from nlna regarding what could

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happen in the future what the unknowns would be mr jones and this time we sat down because there

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really haven't been uh incidents uh at the at the property it's really a concern of what the future

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can could hold and so we sat down together and i suggested that no matter what this board chooses

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to do we could enter into a private binding agreement and we um that that really was the

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best thing for the community and it was uh a easy discussion to have because that gave the assurances

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that felt uncomfortable in terms of really forecasting the future.

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Does that help to answer?

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Well, to a certain degree, I guess I want to understand

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what were their sort of major concerns about these future potential issues?

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Potential noise, the music.

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music some congestion and that was addressed right off the bat in the occupancy being 50

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whereas the last zoning board approval was 60 and LNI occupancy loads could likely allow more

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so on occupancy we believe we have uh addressed that concern and on music uh mr jones there was

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little concern about the small number of annual events such as the second street festival

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because most everyone believes that that is a benefit for the neighborhood and there's going

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to be noise they're separate and apart from north bowl for that one time or a few times per year

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that there are these special events but because it is a mixed-use neighborhood and there are people

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who live in closer proximity how do we be good neighbors and a part of that is to very

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specifically limit not only music ending, but the positioning of speakers and even games

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outside, which might sound like that is not as big of an issue. But if you're a neighbor,

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voices travel and things like that. I should also note in terms of coexisting in a mixed-use

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community i did not specifically address the rear of this property there's potential access onto a

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residential street long ago aron spoke to his neighbors and said we will not use that rear

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street we recognize that second street is more of the commercial street and we are not looking to

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interrupt the residential fabric and have, for example, deliveries coming in or employees taking

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a break out there. So this is a property that fronts on two streets, but really is only using

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a second street because of his partnership, if I may use that word, with his neighbors.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Other questions?

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um yeah so my question is the the rco did have a lot of uh provisos um and you are agreeable uh to

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the provisos um given the months of operation for the outdoor space is that something you're

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agreeable to yeah we spent plenty of time working together okay and you willing to give up the

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beloved Jenga. I didn't understand that one. I think what it is is games are okay, but sometimes

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a cheer happens, and it's that cheer. We learned that we had bocce at one point, that we learned

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that when five people cheer at one step, those were problems. So we eliminated those games,

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and we said all right if we have to end games at nine o'clock it's really it we realize we're

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within a community and like i said i walk my dog by by the business i'm there every day i see the

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like i said i walk my dog by by the business i'm there every day i see the neighbors

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NEIGHBORS.

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um i want to keep the peace okay and i'm just curious um where where do you store your trash

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in your in there um for your establishment because you're not using the rear for pickup

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where does like where's your on the front so it will be in this parking lot as well yeah

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sorry sorry um you want to pull up the site map and i can show you guys

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it's hidden so if you look um on the top right corner uh yeah adam a little lower where the uh

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transformer is there we have an area there with dumpsters and totes and that's behind

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the fence with drainage and everything thank you other questions

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questions from our attorney hillary emerson not at this time mr chair questions or comments from

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the virtual audience for the audience here no hands at this time chair planning commission

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thank you chairman and good morning david facto f-e-c-t-e-a-u with the city planning commission

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do you swear or firm to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth yes sir i do

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So please proceed. Thank you, sir. And sir, I came with a question for clarification, if that's okay. Sure. Um, uh, so Mr. Laver, um, the site plan shows the demolition of, uh, of a wheelchair ramp. Um, but it wasn't 100% clear where that's going to be replaced.

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I'm going to pull up the plan for a moment. Sure.

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yes please Mr Daskal um so the existing ramp there's some level issues here uh on the site

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and if you look on the left hand side along with Chess Cafe there all in the land that's where the

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new ramp is put in and connects to the uh existing ADA ramp nice thank you sir I appreciate that

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um so chairman and board members the comprehensive plan recommends no change to the CMX3 commercial

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mixed-use zoning at this location the city rezoned this neighborhood in 2014 in accord with

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recommendations in the comprehensive plan the proposed variances largely reflect existing

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conditions the city planning commission recommends that the board grant the proposed use variance for

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assembly entertainment the variance for not providing accessory off-street parking and the

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proposed dimensional variance for maximum occupied area. Thank you. So MI 2025 004 391 909 to 15

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North 2nd Street. I vote yes and the provisos that our council believes to be enforceable.

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Use of outdoor space from April to October only. Maximum six outdoor music performance per calendar

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year and indoor live music must end by 12 a.m johnson my vote is yes with provisos

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cheryl gaston my vote is yes with provisos tanetta graham my vote is yes with provisos

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ryan mcadams my vote is yes with provisos my vote is yes with provisos thank you mr chairman

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and members of the board just one uh statement to anyone listening from the community uh please

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know that Mr. Daskal will abide by all of the commitments that he has made with NLNA. Thank you

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all. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Number 10, MI 2025 004255, 5601 Hunter Street. Vern Anastasio

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is the attorney. They're being promoted to panelists. Thank you.

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morning mr chair good morning counsel you've already been sworn in could you just state your

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name for the record yeah it's verne anastasio on behalf of mr ralph bonhomme right our vice

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chair has a few questions thank you good at good morning um have you submitted your documents and

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exhibits five days in advance of this hearing yes i have and do you waive the reading of the

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refusal and stipulate to its accuracy i do okay thank you you can share your screen and proceed

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with your case

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okay should be up yes sir excellent all right so we have a 41 page

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Yes, sir. Excellent. All right. So we have a 41 page exhibit packet, 5601 Hunter Street is zoned RSA 5, but it is a long history since 1963 of a residential mixed use.

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It's always been 2 units and we'll show you the, as you can see here.

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