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ZBA Hearing - January 21, 2026

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Jan 21, 20266h 17m

going back for several decades since 1964 it was a candy store and a grocery store at the lower level

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with one family dwelling above and it has remained two units ever since

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separate entrances separate electric meters none of that has changed let's take a look at the

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proposed basement studio. Now, this basement is 100% above grade with its own side entrance here,

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which my photos will show you. And as you can see with the side door, you're going to get a living

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room, dining room, kitchen, and a bedroom. That's just a large studio. Right off of the bedroom

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section is a full bath and a walk-in closet. And then, by the way, additionally on the side there's

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a separate space that we're going to be using for storage. This is an existing toilet that's already

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there and also both tenants can use the space for trash. The rest of the house, which is the second

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and third levels technically the first and second floors are a full three bedroom

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living space that's pre-existing

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show you some photos

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okay as you can see here this is the the entrance that used to be the commercial space

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Back here is the separate section that will be used for trash and other tenant storage.

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And then the second and third levels is its own living space.

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Just a little closer view.

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Here it is again.

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Here's the interior.

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There's the two electric meters, two boxes.

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This is the basement as it currently sits.

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Additional photos.

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Here's our property here right across the street is a 3 family dwelling, which is also on the corner and there are several 2 and 3 family dwellings on the block as well.

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so what we're requesting is pretty consistent with what exists there are no more commercial

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spaces on these corners but they all have been converted to residential use here are the multiple

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letters that were mailed to the community not only for the january 7th hearing a meeting

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community meeting that was held where about a half a dozen folks attended

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but also notice went out as far as the uh the uh today's community meeting i'm sorry today's

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hearing and i want to move this into evidence as well as the uh deed the proof of tax compliance

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and the history going back to 1963 all uh previously submitted to the zoning board okay

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because of the long history of this property being mixed use because it has separate entrances

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and separate electric meters it's and because it is what we're proposing is very much the same as

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the other corners on the block that are multifamily we are simply asking for that lower level to be

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allowed for a living space and granting of this variance. By the way, my client has committed

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both to the community and in the process to making these units affordable. He's already

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enrolled in the Section 8 program and will ensure that it's offered for folks with Section 8

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vouchers. You want to bring your client on? My client cannot be joining us today, unfortunately.

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So I ask that you would talk, you take my presentation as his testimony.

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Thank you.

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Okay.

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Questions from the board.

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can i can i see the floor plan again i'm sorry miss gaston there's the bathroom and it's right

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Can I, can I see the plane again?

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I'm sorry.

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by the bedroom area i had them draw it just for you just for you

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thank you council you're welcome um i have a question about the utility so in the existing

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basement plan it looks like all of the duct work and all of the equipment is in the main room of

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the basement but it is not necessarily showing in the relocated plan right so where well they're

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gonna they're gonna relocate that to the back to the back okay yeah so that both tenants would have

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water heaters and everything back there that's right that's what that's the plan what are we

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doing about gas and electric meters because typically those are in the front of the house

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and unmovable, like where you're currently showing the bathroom

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and the walk-in closet is typically where those are located

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in every house in Philadelphia.

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Yeah, they're going to, I mean, obviously they're going to go

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wherever the utility companies tell them to put it.

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The electric meters, I think, already exist on the side

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because there are already two electric accounts.

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I can't speak to the gas, though.

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Is there a plan if the gas meter can't be moved for this to be all electric from the kitchen for like kitchen and cooking purposes?

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It's my understanding that the RCO did ask what the utility situation would be.

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And electric is it's going to be all electric as far as we know.

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Yeah.

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OK.

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What's the what's the point of the powder room and the and the storage utility?

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That's a great question, Mr. Johns.

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it came up at the community meeting the only point is it already it's already there when he

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bought the property it's it's you know like i i my own experience in some of the old school

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south philly homes grandmom just had a toilet in the basement you know and i think that was uh one

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this is an old house then that's exactly how he bought it so uh instead of removing it i mean he

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he certainly could remove it and he told the rco that he'd be willing to if that was a concern

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because it serves no practical purpose.

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Where's trash stored?

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Back here.

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Okay, so all the tenants have access to that?

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They do have access if they need it.

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I mean, there's ample space, especially in the above unit.

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It's a full-blown three-bedroom to store trash,

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but if the smaller unit needs it, it's right out his front door.

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Okay.

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Other questions?

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Questions from our attorney, Hillary Emerson.

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Not at this time, Mr. Chair.

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Questions or comments from the virtual audience?

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Chair, I have a hand up from Gregory Allen.

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Okay.

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Good morning, Chair and Board.

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Good morning, Mr. Allen.

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You've already been sworn, just for the record, state your name.

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Gregory Allen.

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Okay.

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Please proceed, sir.

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So prior to the January 7th virtual hearing, Mr. Anastasio called me to say that there was

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a little confusion in how the mailing went out that it was listed as both public and virtual.

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And so we agreed to have another meeting on the 14th where he and his client didn't attend.

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And so during that January 7th meeting, we took no notes. We just heard from the attorney and

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the owner. And so we have no way of gauging the community's position on this. When Mr. Anastasio

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and his client left the virtual meeting, our meeting ended. So we have no sense of how the

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community feels about this project. I can go based on other projects on that block, the 1600 block

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on North 56th Street, where you denied a property across the street that was looking to be multifamily.

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So that's the only sense I have of the community's position. And so Mr. Anastasio asked for a

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resumptive hearing. I preferred to have it in the order so that the community's position came first,

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but it seems we're here. So I can't tell you what the community thinks about this project.

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Mr. Chair, our meeting on the 7th of January lasted exactly 47 minutes with Q&A from more

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than half a dozen folks on present. And again, there is a legal three-family dwelling right

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across the street on the corner i don't dispute anything or object to anything uh the test uh the

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witness testified to though so thank you okay thank you one more time chair the when the meeting

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witness testified to though um so thank you okay thank you

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began the attorney indicated he was willing to have a second meeting and we still are regardless

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of whether this is voted on today or not we're still willing to work and meet with the community

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on a regular basis of course i i'm my concern is that the one property that's at the corner

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is the only property on that block. The other

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properties are south of that block and

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that block is half LLCs and half

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single family homes. And in that instance

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1665 North 56, those neighbors

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near neighbors did attend and they were opposed

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to that section being converted to two

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family. So that's the only way I can give you any sense of what the community believes. And I don't

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want the community to be prejudiced by having any kind of input before they get a right, because of

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the half a dozen people that attended that meeting, only two were near neighbors. And I'm included in

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at six and i'm not in their neighbor okay all right all right is there anyone everyone everyone

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was adequately mailed up mr chair uh based on you know in accordance with the code and there was no

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indication uh there was no vote so there was no indication that anyone was opposed okay um anyone

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else in the virtual audience there are no hands raised at this time chair planning commission

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thank you chairman and board members David Fecto with the city planning commission

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chairman and board members the comprehensive plan recommends no change to the RSA 5 residential

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single-family zoning at this location the city rezoned this neighborhood in 2018 in accord with

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recommendations in the comprehensive plan this property has a documented history as ground floor

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retail and a one-family dwelling the appellant proposes to convert the former retail space into

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a dwelling unit we also note that the affordability mentioned in the appellant's testimony cannot be

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enforced by any city agency the city planning commission recommends the board grant the

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requested use variance for two dwelling units okay um hillary um could we close this other than

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the additional meeting and just take the results a letter from the um rco um that would be fine

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mr chair um let me just give me one second yeah um maybe what we could do is um schedule the vote

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for i believe they said the meeting was the february 14th i think it's 17 we've agreed

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to the 17th i think 17th so okay shortly thereafter so maybe we'll we can schedule

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the vote then for february 25th at 9 30 and the record's closed except for a letter from the rco

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and comments from Mr. Anastasia. Exactly. Okay. Thank you very much. Okay. Yep. All right. Thank

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you. And thank you to the RRCO member. Thank you. All right. Let's see here. Let's go.

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number six

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mi 2025 001 985 3610 tulip street juan rodriguez is the owner applicant

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chair mr rodriguez is being promoted to panel

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share they're being promoted to panelists i see him right here we're good okay

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oh okay all right my first time doing this so i didn't know

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it's no no yeah well we're fine we're fine

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okay how you doing all right could you state your name and spell for the stenographer

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juan rodriguez j-u-a-n-r-o-d-r-i-g-e-z all right do you swear or affirm tell the truth

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the whole truth and nothing but the truth i do um and your wife's just gonna run the computer for

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you yes okay could we make sure that she her she's alone in a position to run the computer for her

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Could we make sure that she's alone in a position to run the computer for her husband?

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husband.

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Could that person please raise their hand?

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The spouse of Juan Rodriguez so I could promote them and they could share their screen.

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Yeah.

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um how she gotta raise her hand

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uh what's what's her name i can try to find her that way margaret margaret valdez okay

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While we're waiting, why don't I read this for you? This application for use is a two-family

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household living in an existing structure, no sign on this application, whereas the proposed

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use two-family household living is prohibited in the RSA 5 zoning district. And our vice chair

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has a few questions for you. Good morning. Have you submitted your documents and exhibits five

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days in advance of this hearing yes okay and the chair just read the refusal so do you stipulate

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to its accuracy yes okay thank you you can begin

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chair i'm not seeing a martha in the audience margaret i think it's margaret

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is that person um under a different name perhaps i don't see a margaret in the audience okay

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let's see i think she's using my email so it's going to be on the um

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juan rodriguez okay all righty i'm gonna promote them to panelists they just have to accept

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all righty they should be rejoining as a panelist momentarily

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yeah but

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they are

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are in

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this is Ian Haggerty executive director I'm going to bring up the applicants

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okay he's going to bring up you could just start testing okay all right well I'll wait

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and see because it looks like they've just brought it up.

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The purpose for this is to convert a single family to a two-family household. There won't

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be no uh changes to the the structure of the building is going to remain the same you see

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that now oh there you go okay so why don't you go ahead i'm gonna show you some pictures

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of the

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building.

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The

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RCO

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community,

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they didn't accept it.

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Because

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the only thing

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they said, it was the trash

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and

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the neighbors.

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the neighbors that the trash they put in in the front of the house right now uh dollar siga siga

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i got some pictures uh the front of the house right right there is the house already converted

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yeah it's a duplex already two apartments yeah and when was that done um a couple years ago five

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did you do it not me you know i'm saying but you had people converted into it yes okay well please

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please proceed um so uh like you see everybody got the trash out um

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i'm gonna do a fence and on the side of the steps if you see right there

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uh i'm willing to do a fence like for the trash you know some people do it like garden it's not

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like for the trash you know some people do it like garden it's not going to affect the sidewalk

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going to affect

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or pedestrians walking you know down the street um i could do a fence just for the trash and uh

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cover you know like um it's not going to change the the building it's just going to be a fence

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uh separating the trash you know from uh the sidewalk by me doing that probably

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motivate other people neighbors to do the same um the uh structure of the house is is plenty of

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