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ZBA Hearing - September 15, 2020

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Sep 15, 20204h 33m

I have commercial pickup on my notes.

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Trash to be stored inside, commercial trash pickup.

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All right.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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Questions from the board?

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No.

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Anyone else wish to testify in this matter?

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If so, please raise your hand.

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Here I have a Wade Alpert.

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Wade, you can unmute yourself and speak to this.

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Wade to be sworn in.

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Good afternoon.

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Can you hear me?

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Yes.

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Wade, please spell your first and last name.

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Give us your address.

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Sure.

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First name is spelled W-A-D-E.

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Last name is spelled A-L-B-E-R-T.

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um i am counsel for the center city residents association my address is 1845 walnut street

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23rd floor philadelphia pa 19103 and i'm with the law firm of sobel law group s-o-b-o-l

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we're in the firm to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth

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i do thank you please proceed thank you so i uh just with regard to this matter um uh i i've heard

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that the ZBA is aware of the provisos that CCRA has requested of the owner or of the applicant

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and the applicant has agreed to all of the provisos. So I would just request that the

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provisos to the extent permitted by the ZBA be included in the license. Thank you.

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again there's only a couple that we could and are enforceable by us the agreements between the c

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ccra and the applicant and the other provisors uh planning commission

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planning commission yes uh this property is indicated for center city commercial mixed

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juice on the city plan we support the granting of the special exception

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let's see

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no

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calendar no mi-2020-0009112051 walnut street my vote is yes with the provisos

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mi-2020-000

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trash to be stored inside and also commercial trash pickup my vote is yes with provisos yes

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with proviso yes with proviso yes with proviso

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good luck calendar number 39661 1351 south 57th street

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this is a referral and the attorney is verne anastasio

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mr anastasio you've been promoted to a panelist you can share your screen

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and unmute yourself.

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Vern, you there?

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I know that he was participating. He texted me to say that he was there.

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Yes, he's here. He's just not on video and he has not unmuted himself.

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His name has the mute on.

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There you go.

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Mr. Anastasia.

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We're good.

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Can you put your name and address on the record, please?

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Yes, of course.

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Vern Anastasio, 1315 Walnut Street, Suite 1006, Philadelphia, 19107.

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And do you swear or affirm to tell the truth and nothing but the truth?

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Of course, yes.

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Do you also agree to wave the reading of the referral and stipulate to its accuracy?

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Frozen.

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I agree to wave the sort of tweet.

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we are asking for no more than seven people not nine and you do agree on the referral

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i agree reading of it i agree at the time that it was reviewed that it was referred yes

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okay mr chair

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you swear from the tell you swore him in on for you

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I swear for him to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

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I certainly do.

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And I would like Ms. Juanita Bates to be recognized and brought into the panel as well.

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She is my client.

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Before we get to her, you said at the time you agreed?

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I agreed to the referral at the time that it was reviewed by the examiner.

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it was the property generated a referral however as of today if it were reviewed again

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it may have gotten a refusal

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so since you are grandfathered in as of the date of the application it's a referral is that correct

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That's my position, yes.

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But I'm prepared to argue both, you know.

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You had a witness you said, Vern?

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Juanita Bates.

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She's my client to Bates Associates, LLC.

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She's the primary on that.

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She's the principal.

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and i would like her to be identified just for the sake of being able to uh uh attest to my my

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my presentation but we can do that at the end all right wait we do whatever you'd like sir

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at the end of the presentation all right very well this is a uh an application uh was submitted

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for the legalization of a single room residence for up to seven adults ellen i issued a referral

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and identify the property at the time as RM1, at the time of review. Property has been a single

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room residence for 40 years, run by my client's father, with some tenants who have called the

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building home for well over a decade. Actually, previous residents have lived there for 29,

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27, 19 years. This is a place where folks live and die. It's not a flop house.

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The neighbors at the RCO meeting admitted that the appellant's father, who she just purchased it from, has maintained the property in excellent condition.

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The matter was before this board in 1980.

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where the archive suggests the corner property has been maintained for the last four decades

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with zero three one one calls zero nine one one complaints on record and the tenants who have

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been there for over a decade the lease all have uh nuisance clauses in them to ensure peace and

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quiet. The appellant recently purchased the property from her father, as I said, plans to

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install additional exterior lighting to main safety, as well as to continue personally caring

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for the property. The appellant would like to continue the proper maintenance of the property,

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and she's now installing quarterly inspections of each unit to ensure continuance maintenance,

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to ensure that it continues to not be a negative impact to the community.

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ATLAS, however, now identifies the property today as RSA-5.

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But regardless, under both a variance and or a special exception analysis,

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given the history and the approvals and the current track record,

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I believe zoning relief is appropriate in this case.

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So I just want to go over that. First, let's get to the application. Single room residents for up to, this says nine, it's actually seven, all occupants, all self-sustaining and not under the jurisdiction of any court order.

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At the time in January before the COVID, it was identified as RM1.

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And now let's look at the property history, 1980.

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application was made to go from a single-family residence to a rooming house.

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It was refused, and a notice of decision was rendered.

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Now, for whatever reason, no boxes were checked here,

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but there were provisos, including getting a use permit right here.

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I was like, I'm turning, I'm circling on this, tells me that, in fact, it was approved.

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What else tells me that it was, in fact, approved as a rooming house is that as

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2007 and then updated to 2011, L&I actually listed the property, as you can see right here,

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as a rooming house, dorm, hotel, and complied.

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And that's as late as 2011.

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Another application from L&I.

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From 2007, updated to 2011.

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Existing group home, basically, complied.

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And these are the plans.

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Right here, we have the entrance of the house, a living room, a very large living room, and a kitchen with one bedroom on the first floor.

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Here's the lower level basement, but please make sure you understand, the basement is completely above grade.

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So we have a laundry room, a bathroom, and two bedrooms, with right outside the bedrooms is an exit to the street.

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The second floor has additional bedrooms and a bathroom.

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And now I want to explain to you that there is other properties on the street that are not treated as single-family homes.

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On the opposite corner of this, this is a corner property.

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On the opposite corner, we have a group daycare and a church.

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As you can see here, completely legal.

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in the middle of the block we have a two-family dwelling

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at 1337 we have another two-family dwelling and this is the property here's the basement level

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if you could see my cursor with egress and ingress for the basement units

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here's the rear um egress as well

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and then the front of the property uh with a large porch and then we have some additional interior

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this has been a single room residence for 40 years

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with tenants living in the home for 29 years, 25 years.

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With tenants living in the home for 29 years, 25 years, 19 years, these folks die in this home.

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This is not a flop house by any imagination.

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Give me one minute.

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That's the basement.

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here's the deed from her dad robert tab to tab tabette's associates

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and i actually i want to i want to make sure you see this because it's really important

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when it comes to trash and maintenance i mean they're fantastic i mr anastasio yeah not to

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be sarcastic but uh looking at the photographs i see paint peeling all over the place electrical

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wires connected to what i i'm a little concerned about this you know again my client

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your client they're saying your client does inspections quarterly from the looks of things

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it looks like it hasn't been inspected and or repaired in quite a long time.

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My apologies. I want to make sure I'm clear on this. My client, who just purchased the property

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from her elderly father, wants to do quarterly inspections and wants to make sure that the

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property is kept up inside. But I have to show you, if you look at this photo here,

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of all the trash receptacles and the recycling receptacles perfectly in place.

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This rooming house has survived in this neighborhood for 40 years with not one 911 complaint,

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not one 311 complaint. Now, obviously, going through this process, we're going to need to

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get a new CO, and there's going to need to be upgrades to the property. And my client is ready

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willing and able to do that. Otherwise, she can't be able to, you know, operate the way she'd like.

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But, you know, so yes, I get what you're saying. It needs an upgrade. She wants to upgrade.

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She didn't know that she wasn't compliant. Because for 40 years, this has been what we

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all thought was a compliant, you know, single based on the history.

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Fern, I have a question.

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Hasn't she ever been in the house?

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I don't necessarily know if she has, and we could talk to her about that.

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Because you can't force these guys or people to make their beds or clean up,

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but the interior is off.

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I agree with the chair.

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Well, again, once we get the zoning approval again,

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because we had it before once we get the zoning approval again she wants to bring it to if she

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has to bring it to code she will uh as recently as 20 2011 it was completely complied with

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ellen i went through that property in 2011 and and as i showed you as part of the uh

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as part of the the evidence there that it was completely complied with so yes

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right and if there are issues now that now that she's purchased it

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she would like to be able to get it up to speed and then do quarterly inspections

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here's the deed just recently done july 14th you know that's that's kind of older can't really

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keep it up anymore my client wants to do that and we also have a tax clearance

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that i'll get to through october 7th mr chairman is this appropriate why doesn't

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she get a cleaning crew to go in there and electricians and bring that up to code

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first well she has to in order to get a ceo she'll have to do that right because what you guys are

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going to grant us if if you're so kind to do is just the use permit but then we have to go through

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the co process where she'll have to have a whole building review and if the building needs to be

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upgraded or you know fixed up then of course that's part of uh getting the uh the necessary

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building permit and co i get the rental licenses we'll put a time limit on it carol to get a co

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Peace.

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I also want to show you that here's a lease, standard lease, but it does have, in case you were wondering, a nuisance and guests provisos, where if you're allowed, if you're causing trash, if you have guests, you're out.

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So bottom line, I mean, these people have been here for 20, 30, you know, 15, 13 years.

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I mean, folks live here a long time, and every person who attended the RCO said that the

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former landlord kept this place tip-top shape.

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So I think that's important.

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I also want to show you the special exceptional analysis.

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I'll just bring it up to submit for the record because I don't know if you'd like to submit it as a review this as a special exception or a variance, but as the examiner has told us, this is just a special exception.

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our proposed use will not require added parking it won't overcrowd the land it won't impair

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neighbors like nair it won't burden the water sewer other utilities it won't injure the use

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of neighboring homes it was not inconsistent with the city's plan at the time of review

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and it will cause no detrimental impacts so i think that's that's something that you know

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we need to look, you know, however, if this was in fact a variance issue and the examiner

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was at fault in giving this a referral, I believe that 40 years history of it being an approved

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rooming house with zero complaints. And both L and I, on two occasions, as recently as 2011,

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recognizing this property as a single room residence. I believe that's a basis for,

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it's basically a pre-existing non-conforming use. And that's why I respectfully request

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the variance. My client

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wants to make this place

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even better. You're not

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going to find one complaint

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from anybody who protests

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about this particular property.

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And with that, I'd like to

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bring in my client, if I can,

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