to leave she has access to the sidewalk with her walker um and when we were at the uh civic
association hearing um the president mentioned that there had been no um complaints so
i was surprised just like alex was surprised that these complaints came out because there
had been no complaints no one had called and made any complaints so um the letter is dated six five
and it seems like it's talking about things that happen in the past but never anything that was
brought to my door no one has ever rang my doorbell and said this is what needs to be done okay yeah
and and there has been uh the neighbor has tried to obstruct the driveway on her own we have
pictures in the presentation materials where she's put like actual obstructions like potted plants in
the middle so neither party can use the driveway is that correct kelly absolutely um after um
hearing the decision of the last um for the variants um she placed three large blue pots
in the middle of the driveway and I am I'm the type of neighbor that I just try to get along
to get along and I do not complain I don't call the civic association I don't call the police
but the pot stayed there for weeks and finally I called the community officer
Tom Karen and he came out and he just let her know that it's not fair and then in the letter
it also says that she doesn't have access but right now there is a large pot in the driveway
so for her to say she doesn't have access and to say that my trash cans are in the way
my water hose is in the way is unfair because the first thing you see when you come into the driveway
is her pot. So that would actually have to be moved for the access that she's talking about
to get back to the garage. So to say that I'm blocking anything is not fair. And there are
pictures to show that my trash cans are to the side. The reason why my trash cans are there,
if I may say so, there are certain regulations that we have to follow about secretion and
And dealing with children, I have a lot of trash. And there's also a supervision issue. I cannot continuously have staff go to the back of my house when we can just open up the door and throw it out that way.
um if we have it in the back i just was diagnosed with some back issues so if it's me that's left
with it uh i'm not sure who's dragging the trash cans all the way from the back okay um
sorry i apologize all right let's see if there's any else have questions yeah how many kids do you
have on site at a time well i have 12 children at a time my school-age children don't come till
school is over and i have two pre-k programs those pre-k programs are 5.5 hours so um students are
generally leaving by 2 33 o'clock okay so in terms of volume or like traffic you've got
okay so in terms of volume or like traffic you've got a group that's coming in probably early
morning and leaving in the afternoon and then you have a group that's probably coming around the same
time when school lets out and then leaving later in the evening so when you're talking about the
group that's coming later in the afternoon they're just kids so there there's nobody pulling in the
driveway for those kids until the evening but we're still talking about mid mid block traffic
of groups of you know it could be numbers of people walking up to the house which on a
residential block like that is atypical so just we've got these like two different kind of time
windows I guess you have people coming in okay so we do live a block from a school so there's kids
walking um at that time up and down the street that don't come to my facility and most of the
kids that are coming to your facility are from those schools right absolutely and then what's
the plan during out of school time like right now the school district is closed are you running
summer camp or out of school time camps so many of my students have um ieps they will be going to
the extended school year. And then I have, excuse me, I have other students that are actually going
to camps. So I will not have the school age children, but for the same amount of time that
I have them now. Okay. And then do you currently have commercial trash pickup?
We do not have commercial trash pickup. We just have city trash pickup. Okay.
Questions or comments for our attorney?
Not at this time, Mr. Chair.
Questions or comments for the virtual audience?
Yes, Chair, I have a hand up from Terry Heiser, and there's two hands up now,
but I'll let Terry Heiser speak now.
Terry?
She should be joining now.
All right.
Hi, Terry.
terry hi terry heiser can you unmute yourself
okay i just unmuted hi hi could you please state your name and spell it for the stenographer
Yes. Terry Heiser. That's T-E-R-R-Y-H-E-I-S-E-R.
You swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth.
Mr. Heiser, are you a neighbor?
I'm a resident of Northwood.
Okay. All right. Please proceed.
Okay. I heard some things there that I'd like to correct, so to speak. First of all, I think I heard somebody say we ordered the property owner and her attorney and staff members and parents to leave the civic meeting.
We did not order anybody.
What we say when we have a civic zoning matter is when the presentation has finished and after they leave, we will take a vote.
We do not order people to leave.
Also, go ahead.
Also, regarding the letter, the notification, several people, well, three people said they did not receive it, including Miss Jones, the woman who lives across the driveway.
mm-hmm and another member on the block another resident on that block and
actually two more so there are three on that block who said that beyond that the
attendance at the meeting was surprisingly low there were only three
There were only three people who were on the list of near neighbors who were to receive the notification letter.
people who were
Ms. Jones did not receive it.
She was on vacation.
Are you the head of the RCO?
I am the vice president.
All right.
So I mentioned the low attendance there.
Only three of the 59 addresses were represented.
There were none other than Ms. Burnett on the 1200 block of Hayworth.
The three who were represented were a block away.
And in addition, the attorney did present in the presentation certificates of a bulk mailing.
However, there was no evidence that the letters were delivered to everybody because the mailing was first class only.
well okay that's our system i mean that's the system first class so so so there's no telling
that everybody received it mr heiser listen to me one minute have you taken a position on this
project have we taken a petition have you taken a position on this project only insofar as the vote
okay all right thank you thank you very much for calling us we appreciate it okay all right
is there anyone else in the audience yeah yes chair there are five hands up now okay
um the next was kia kiani murph yep
hi could you please state your name
hello can you hear me yeah i can could you please uh state your name and then spell for
the stenographer sure it's kiana murph k-i-y-o-n-i-a murph m-u-r-p-h do you swear or affirm
to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth yes i do kiana are you a neighbor
no i'm not or kiana do you support this project yes i do okay thank you very much
for taking the time to call so we appreciate it next hand please
amber burnett okay
hello good afternoon hi good afternoon could you please state your name and spell for the
stenographer sure my name is amber burnett it is a-m-b-e-r-b-u-r-n-e-t-t do you swear or
firm to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth yes i do amber are you a neighbor
i am not a neighbor i used to be a resident at 1222 hayworth street okay could you um are
you in favor of this project or against I am in favor of this project thank you
so much for taking the time to cause we appreciate it next hand please next hand
is Patricia last name starting with an S okay hi Patricia
he's coming in okay
can you hear me i most certainly can could you please state your name no it's okay
Please state your name and spell, state your name, hold up, listen to me, state your name
and then spell it for the stenographer.
Okay, it's Patricia Steers, it's spelled P-A-T-R-I-C-I-A, last name is S-T-E-E-R-S.
Great, do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth from nothing but the
truth?
Patricia, are you a neighbor?
Patricia, are you in favor of this project or against?
Yes, I am.
you're in favor or against favor in favor of it okay thank you
so much for taking the time to calls we appreciate it next hand please
jamesha murray hi hi could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer
Hi. Hi. Could you please state your name and spell it for the stenographer?
She's rejoining now. Okay.
Can you hear me? I most certainly can. Could you please state your name and then spell it for the stenographer?
Jamisha Murray. J-A-M-I-S-H-A-M-U-R-R-A-Y.
Right. Do you swear her firm to tell the truth, told truth, nothing but the truth?
Yes. Are you a neighbor? No, I'm not.
okay could you uh are you in favor of this project or against i'm in favor thank you so much for
taking the time to call us next hand can i ask a question for the folks that aren't neighbors
how are they related how do they relate it to the project like they're not a neighbor
I will be surprised if they don't take their kids there.
That's the point.
Okay, right.
Can I answer?
You can answer.
Go ahead.
So, Jamesa's children used to come to me when she was a neighbor, and she's moved on.
So, it's the same with Patricia is a fellow provider, and we do everything together.
All right.
Next hand, please.
Joy Clifton.
And how many more hands do we have left?
After Joy Clifton, there's one more.
All right.
Thank you very much.
you're welcome joy could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer
can you hear me i most certainly can so state your name and then spell for the stenographer
my name is joy clifton j-o-y clifton c-l-i-f-t-o-n do you swear or affirm to tell the truth
the whole truth nothing but the truth yes julia are you a neighbor i'm a speech language pathologist
are you a what ma'am i'm a therapist that works with the children oh good thank you very much
are you in favor of this project or against yes i'm in favor thank you very much for taking the
time. Last hand, please. Alicia Tanner. All right.
Hello. Mike, could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer?
um yes anisha tanner a-l-i-c-i-a-t-a-n-e-r do you swear or affirm to tell the truth the
whole truth nothing but the truth yes i do okay are you in favor of this project or against
yes i am are you so so you're in favor of it i can tell by your energy um um do you live in
the neighborhood um i do live in the neighborhood all right thank you so much for calling okay so
Chair, excuse me. Another hand is up. It's Nikita Weaver.
And another hand went up.
hello hi could you please state your name and spell for a stenographer yes my name is nikita
weaver spelled n-i-k-i-t-a weaver w-e-a-v-e-r do you swear or affirm to tell the truth told truth
nothing but the truth i swear are you a neighbor no okay um are you in favor of this project or
against i'm in favor of this project thank you so much for taking the time to calls you have
one more hand you said yes it's the number color last word numbers four six nine four
will be allowed to speak okay
you are hi could you please state your name as bell for the stenographer
hello my name is dean jones j-e-n-j-o-n-e-s right do you swear or affirm to tell the truth
the whole truth of nothing but the truth i do are you a neighbor yes i am are you in favor
are you in favor of this project or against i oppose and i am the one who has she has the issue
with okay um we share uh a shared driveway i understand and i'm opposed i would could you just
let me speak please sir because i have a few things that i would like to say
i oppose of her group child care can you hear me i can hear you i can you ask me to speak go ahead
Okay. I oppose of her group child care center. Also, I oppose of her approving without decision.
okay i oppose of her group child care center
i also would like to say that um concerning the rsa um um where there can only be one
principal use per lock in the rsa zoning district i would like to also say this is a residential area
and a lot of the things that her lawyer and her she spoke of was false information
i have been having a problem with her she did speak the truth on that since we moved in
um these properties with the driveway the driveway is not for parking okay so this has been my issue
with her with the cars coming in and out on an everyday basis right um it's very annoying
to me i own my property i do not have a mortgage on it and i would just like to have the piece of
my property without having to have to call the police to be able to have the freedom of my
property that's coming out and coming in and also i would like to state that of the meeting that was
hearing on April the 21st I did not receive notice we had testimony ma'am we've had testimony
okay okay did not receive notice and yes I was on vacation but if I had received notice
I would have set my time in back to be at that meeting okay so that's you know that's one thing
okay so and then another thing i would like for you and um the zoning board to review my letter
that was also sent out with um we did mr heiser with mr heiser's report okay and one more thing
that i would like to say um the officer from 15 district when he came out he don't have new
position uh to state who can pull in and out of my driveway okay she she says that she has this
thing under control no she does not i am a senior citizen i am a widow and i just would like to live
in my home in peace and that's all i have to say right now we appreciate your calls thank you very
much for calling is there any more hands no chair well thank you planning commission
michael gall with the philadelphia city planning commission the comprehensive plan recommends no
change to the existing rsa2 residential single family attached zoning at this location this