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ZBA Hearing - July 23, 2025

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Jul 23, 20254h 34m

It's just a big bedroom, and it's just going to stay the same.

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But could you please show us photos now?

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Así que no puede enseñar fotos ahora.

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Ahora déjame ver.

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Esperate que yo no soy buena en computador y mi hijo me está ayudando.

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So, let me check.

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so it's more for that my daughter can have a place to live but it's a very large space

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and she's going to live on the second and third floor

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Ella va a vivir en el segundo y tercer piso

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No, ella va a vivir en unos de los apartamentos

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Que ella decida, uno, el segundo o el primero

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Esa es su decisión

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No, she's going to live either in the first or second apartment

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It's her decision

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Say that again, I don't know

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The interpreter will be

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Are you going to make a decision whether the first or second floor?

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Yes, that's correct

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Okay

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um questions from the board yes um looking at a satellite photo it does look like the third floor

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already exists and so because this application says it's for an addition what new construction

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is being completed así que este basado en la foto de satelite parece que el tercer piso ya existe

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Y cuando se trata de esta solicitud para una adición, ¿qué es la nueva construcción?

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La nueva adición es primer piso, primer piso y segundo piso.

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Esa es la nueva adición, que ahí el patio es grande y tal, una cosa, y ahí vamos a este primer piso y segundo piso, nada más.

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So the new addition is going to be the first floor and the second floor that we're going to be adding the two apartments.

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The interpreter requires verification.

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Usted dijo, ¿qué fue lo último que dijo acerca del patio grande?

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Sí, que como tal extensión en el patio, eso es lo que vamos a extender, primer piso y segundo piso, más nada.

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so um since there is a large backyard that's what we're going to extend the first floor and

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the second floor nothing else show us what that looks like the plans we had i thought were existing

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plans could you show us what the new addition is este porque los planes que yo estaba viendo yo

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creía que era ya eran planes que existían ahí nos puede enseñar cuál sería la adición

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Yes, I'll show you.

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put in place so the edition was approved but nothing has been done yet

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can we go back to the drawings um because i think you had an elevation that showed

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the existing to what was being put back new. Correct. I think we're just trying to understand

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on the plan. Yeah. Así que sí podemos regresar para atrás a los dibujos porque enseñan una

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elevación este y de lo existente y lo que se va a añadir. Es sobre lo que. So everything

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She has to testify, sir.

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Okay.

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Ella tiene que testificar.

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Así que usted tiene que testificar, señora.

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Is it where the highlighted lines are?

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Está ahí en el plano ya añadido.

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El plano que se ha sometido ya está.

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Eso es lo que se va a hacer.

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En base a eso es que está la estructura ya aprobada.

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So what is on the plans is what has already been approved and nothing else is going to be added.

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What is on the plans is what has already been approved and nothing else is going to be added on top of that.

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It's just it's going to be done within what has already been approved.

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And what does she mean by it's already been approved?

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Because we're here to get approval from us today.

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¿Y a qué se refiere de lo que ya ha sido aprobado?

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Porque si estamos aquí en esta reunión para que ustedes puedan recibir una aprobación.

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Exactamente.

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Aprobación, o sea, aprobado quizás no es la cosa, pero la propiedad está ahí.

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Lo único que queremos hacer es lo que está en el plano, aprobar dos apartamentos con la estructura que está ahí.

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No vamos a hacer nada de lo que no sea en el plano con todas las cosas que están ahí.

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So the maybe approval was the wrong word, but meaning that we are not planning on adding anything on top of what is already there.

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So we're just wanting approval for two apartments on the two structures that are already in place.

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so so just to just to clarify um so i believe that um a permit was already issued for the

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addition but that was only for the addition that wasn't for the two-family use so now you've

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applied for a permit for both the addition and the two-family use is that correct

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Así que para clarificar, el permiso primero que ustedes habían solicitado era solamente para la adición, pero ahora están sometiendo para un permiso de uso multifamiliar. ¿Eso es correcto?

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Sí, eso es correcto.

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Yes, that's correct.

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Okay, and then where are the utilities for the second floor unit going to be?

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¿Y dónde estarán las utilidades para la segunda unidad en el segundo piso?

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In the closet that is marked there, there will be all the utilities for the two apartments.

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So there's going to be a metal closet that's going to have the utilities for both apartments.

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okay and then

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so and you can see it on the plans and it's um on the first floor and in the um end of the first

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floor so um and how it the designer designed it was or the architect designed it um he's gonna

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to have utilities for both apartments, and he already added a separate place where those

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utilities would be.

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Okay, and then what's the trash plan for the two units?

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¿Y cuál es el plan de basura para ambas unidades?

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Se va, o sea, cada, hay mismo, porque la casa es sola, no está pegada, entonces hay

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un pasillo grande donde se ponen las dos cosas de las unidades de basura porque la casa no es

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pegada, es despegada. Permítame, so since the building is separate, there's an alleyway and in

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that alleyway there is enough space to put the trash and that's how they normally put the trash.

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Okay, and then both tenants have access to the alleyway and to the rear yard?

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Y ambos inquilinos tuvieran acceso a ese pasillo y la parte de atrás.

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Correctamente.

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Correct.

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And is there a drawing that shows the facade with the new second entrance?

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Y este, hay alguna foto que enseña este edificio con la segunda entrada?

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Sí, claro que sí.

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Tratamos de buscar.

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Yes, we're searching for it now.

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I don't know.

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You know, I see it in plan.

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You know, I see it in plan.

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I was wondering, do we have it in elevation to see the new elevation?

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I was wondering, do we have it in elevation

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to see the new elevation?

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Así que ya lo vemos en el plan.

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Queremos ver el aspecto de elevación.

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El aspecto de elevación.

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Déjame ver usted.

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Que no hay, no se va a hacer elevación.

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so it's not going to be elevated it's just going to remain how it is

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there's no entrance there currently though but there'd have to be there'd have to be a step up

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because the first floor is above grade because it tuviera que haber este como un paso para

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So it's in the plans and it's in the picture.

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That's the door for the first floor.

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And then the door for the second floor is going to be created.

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where you see the window that's where the um door it's gonna be and it's gonna be doors

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leading up to the stairs so um we're going to take out the window and that's where we're going

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to place the door so the reason i asked is that's not where it is in the plan and that's why i

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wanted to see a drawing that showed the relocation of the door because in the plan it is shown very

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close to the gutter which is not where the window is and i wanted to know what the plan for that

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window opening was but así que por eso es que le estaba preguntando porque en el plano no está

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como lo estoy viendo ahora está más cerca de la alcantarilla y quería saber a dónde

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es que iba a estar ubicada. Ahí se va a remover la ventana más para acá.

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So the window is going to be taken out and it's going to be moved more to the side.

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so then it's going to be pushed to the side and it's going to have new supports

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and um because i i understand that it's going to be closer to

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the gutter and so it's going to be created new and and a new door with uh supports okay i would

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just tell your client i would suggest that they make sure that that's reviewed by a structural

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engineer yes it's going to be a company that's going to do everything it's going to acquire

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the correct permissions because by law it has to be a certified company what's what's the

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what's the depth of the rear yard with with the addition

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so we're gonna show you the picture right now

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I didn't see a dimension on the plan.

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so there's a site there's a site plan at least i don't know i don't know how accurate

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the site plan is

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and I can't read the dimension

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And I can't read the dimension, but it looks like you've got a fairly decent rear yard.

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but it looks like you've got a fairly

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Así que ahí está el plan de sitio, y no sé cuán preciso es, pero se ve que usted tiene una parte atrás que es bastante grande.

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Sí, y la yard es bastante, bastante grande.

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Yes, it's very large.

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Right. So, I can't understand why you're building an addition and have layouts that really are not livable for a two-bedroom unit.

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literally it's a kitchen and that's it barely enough room for dining or our living space

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in the two plans on the on the first floor or the second floor plan

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Porque literalmente es solamente como una cocina, no hay este.

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No, pero que atrae suficiente espacio, mucho espacio en la parte que los apartamentos van a salir con suficiente espacio porque se puede ver.

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so um but there's still enough space each unit is going to have two bedrooms it's going to have

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a living room and it's also going to have a kitchen so there's going to be enough space

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not based on the plan dimensions

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so it might be that the first floor isn't as big but the second floor is pretty big

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no I'm done okay answer if she knows if there are any other multifamilies on the block

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¿Usted sabe si hay algún otro este multifamiliar en la cuadra?

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No

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no okay questions or comments from our attorney

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because um most of the houses there are um joined together and mine's like one of the

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only ones that is separate um yeah i just wanted to because i was looking at the plans

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that were submitted

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with the application

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and the plans

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that were submitted

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with this application

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only show an addition

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on the first floor.

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Así que quería dejarles saber

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que los planes

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que fueron sometidos

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con esta solicitud,

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esos planes solamente

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demuestran una adición

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en el primer piso.

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And the plans

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that were submitted

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with your exhibits

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are the plans

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that were approved by lni for the for the permit that you have for the addition and that shows an

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addition at the first and second floors y los planes que fueron sometidos este con los anexos

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So, if we approve the addition on this application, it would only be for the first floor.

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No, pero que se mandaron los dos.

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so both of them were sent in so i understand the the plans for an addition on the first

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and second floor were sent in with your exhibits but what was reviewed by ellen i with this permit

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application only shows an addition on the first floor yo entiendo que este los planes para la

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adición del primer y segundo piso fueron enviados este pero este lo que es

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repasaron a través del ley fueron los permisos pero los permisos de la

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aplicación solamente para las del primer piso nos los permisos que yo estoy

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No, lo permiso que yo estoy solicitando es para hacer los apartamentos, no para hacer la adición.

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solicitando y para hacer los apartamentos no paras

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So the permits that I'm applying for are to create the two apartments, not for additions.

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Para hacerlo multifamilia.

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Para hacerlo multifamilia, eso es.

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To make it up.

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Permiso que yo estoy pidiendo solamente para hacerlo multifamilia.

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So I'm just asking for the permit to create it or to make it a multifamily.

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okay that that makes more sense how just so you know the way the application was filed was for an

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addition and to family not just for two family y eso tiene sentido es que la solicitud como la

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So it must have been an error because what we're asking for is just to make it a multifamily.

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Solamente eso, parece que fue un error.

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Porque la adicción ya está hecha, ¿entiendes?

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Está aprobada.

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Entonces solamente el permiso que yo estoy solicitando hoy ante la corte,

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dile así, para que me aprueben en multifamiliar,

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porque el permiso de la adicción ya eso está aprobado.

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Because the permit for the addition is already approved,

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so that's why we're only here in front of the board

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to ask for the permit for a multifamily use.

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Okay, thank you so much for the clarification.

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Questions or comments from the virtual audience?

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I see no hands, Chair.

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