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ZBA Hearing - March 20, 2024

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Mar 20, 20246h 34m

I'm against it because I want businesses

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I want it to be commercial

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yes sir

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All right. All right. Thank you. Is there anyone else in the virtual audience?

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Yes, Chair Lynette Hill will be allowed to speak.

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Hi, could you please state your name and spell for the court stenographer?

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Hi, Lynette Hill. The spelling is L-E-A-N-N-E-T-T Hill. H-I-L-L.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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Yes.

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Are you a neighbor?

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I am a walk-in distance community member.

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Are you against this project? I am. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. Is there anyone else in the first audience? No more hands, Chair. Planning Commission. Mr. Chair, can I just respond? Sure.

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So, first of all, again, we reviewed the record of the last time that Ms. Powell testified.

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And according to the record, she lives as she put an address at 654 North 52nd Street.

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I just want the board to know that, that she's not a nearby neighbor.

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My client would not go through the effort of filing this zoning appeal, asking for reconsideration if it really was a necessity.

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We're asking for the least modification possible under the Philadelphia Zoning Code by asking for a temporary variance of three years.

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This is a commercial corridor that's in shambles.

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that's in shambles like there there's so many open uh commercial spaces here um i just don't

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Like there are so many open space.

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get it but that's just me thank you planning commission uh ron bednar city planning or the

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property is currently indicated for commercial mixed juice on the city plan ground for commercial

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is not appropriate with existing block character therefore we recommend we have no objection to the

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We're ending in the variance, requested variance.

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MI 2024-003-28-6109 Market Street.

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I vote yes, but a temporary variance, 321-27, it expires.

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Thomas Holloman, my vote is yes with proviso.

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james now my vote is yes with proviso ishmael shaheed my vote is no

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thank you thank you have a great night all right hold on mr chair yeah um so we're gonna

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so you and tom and ishmael were the votes on this case

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so we have a two to one so we're mr snell is going to need to review the video of the prior

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hearing and then we need to vote okay all right can you hear that alan no problem yep okay all

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right we'll we'll have the answer for this next next wednesday at two

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um we should be able to do that yes okay thank you thank you all right

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let's see here south street where we at now

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MI 2023 006 337 308 south street Sean Rex Road is the attorney there's a letter of support from

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the South Street Head House and a letter of non-opposition from Councilmember Squiller.

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Sean Rexrode has been promoted. Sir, could you please state your name and spell for the court

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stenographer? Yes, my name is Sean Rexrode. I'm counsel for the applicant, which is Automatic

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Dumpling South LLC. Could you spell your name just for the court stenographer, please? Certainly.

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Sean, S-H-A-W-N, Rexroad, R-E-X-R-O-A-D.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Could you identify your client, the relationship to the property?

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Yes, my client is Automatic Dumpling South, LLC.

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They are the tenant of this property.

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Okay.

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Our vice chair has a few questions.

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Good afternoon, counsel.

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Do you agree to read the reading of the refusal or stipulate to its accuracy?

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I do.

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And he emailed in all the required documents and exhibits that is needed to proceed with this case five days in advance of this hearing.

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I did.

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Thank you. Please proceed and share your screen.

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Okay.

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Green button on the bottom.

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I got it.

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Yeah, it's coming up.

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Let's make sure.

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Actually, I snatched the wrong thing.

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Give me one second here.

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can you see starting with the south street head house district can you see that uh why don't you

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uh could you make it a little bit bigger i think hold on a second i can't see what you can say

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give me one second here can you see this that's good we're good all right thank you i'll be brief

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i know it's been a very long day um so i'm here on behalf of the applicant which is automatic

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dumpling south we were authorized authorized by the owner to be here we have letters of authorization

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which i'll get through in my packing here but just to be brief um we are requesting uh a variance

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to permit a projecting sign that will go above the second floor but below the roof um i'll just

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take you through here's a refusal notice uh this is a copy of our application for appeal

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This is the PIF form.

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Just so you can see, this is the vesting deed for the owner, which is 308 South Street.

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Actually, give me one second.

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Sorry, it's 308 South Street Owner, LLC.

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This is the lease vesting us with the leasehold interest.

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Just in a letter of authorization, just so you know, we're not – the owner affirms that we're not in breach under the lease.

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The lease is still active.

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And so so basically what we're looking for, let me just go through the let me go through the other.

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And so –

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So here we reached out to the near neighbors. Give me one second here.

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You have a letter of support from the South Street. Correct. Letter of support. And also Council Member Squilla. And Council Member Squilla. Thank you. I'm sorry. I'm a bit out of order here.

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Essentially, let me just present the plan to you. So the copy of the plan, first and foremost, my clients went to the art commission first, presented their plan to them.

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They had a hearing for not the art commission, excuse me, but the but the give me one second here.

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But the commission sign and steer streetery committee, my clients adopted every one of their recommendations.

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Essentially, they're now just waiting for approval from the ZBA in order for them to go back to the art commission and submit that.

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But here's the gist of what they're doing.

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um they want to have a projecting sign um which is um this is what it's i'm sorry this is that

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was their original plan uh but this is what it's going to look like yeah they're with me here

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this is what it's going to look like it's going to be 18 feet off the ground um it's a it's a

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small projecting sign. It is going to go above the second floor, but this is actually the

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client's dining room. There's no residential there. And part of the reason why we're doing,

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really the reason why we need to do this is because of branding. This Brooklyn Dumpling

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Shop is a chain, started in East Village in New York, and it's now moving down here.

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It's an automat. I'm not sure if you're familiar with that, but an automat is where

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you order food and it then gets placed into an automat. You just pick it up. It's a really cool

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concept. This certainly fits within the character of the neighborhood. These are also, I'm getting

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through the pictures, but this shows our zoning signs are up. This is an exterior photo. This is

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without the signs, what it looks like currently. But this is part of the problem here. This is

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actually walking east down south street um my client's uh restaurant is right here and you

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actually can't see the sign but you can see the other projecting signs uh so it's just you know

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it's just a matter of them being in a sea of other signs and needing the sign themselves um this is

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interior this shows the automat concept uh which is where you would order your food you'd pick it

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up here this is this shows uh the kitchen uh and this is just a this is the dining room this is

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actually what that sign would be looking at so this is this is just purely for commercial use

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and for use in the uh for use by the restaurant there's nothing um there's nothing residential

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there um this just goes to show you that there are plenty of other uh projecting signs that are

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well above uh the second street or the second floor uh of course gyms everyone knows or gyms

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everyone knows that snipes um next italian grill valente these are all within a block

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um this just goes to show you sort of the branding of brooklyn dumpling shop this is

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the original uh and we're asking for the same sign um and of course these are our letters to the

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to the near neighbors uh we sent them out uh on time uh we had a pretty good showing at the rco

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they were uh they were they were ecstatic about it actually i was uh it was a very good reception

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uh particularly because my client is bringing something to that area that's a little um that

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particular block there's not a lot going on our our our client my client has you know has revived

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that area and i think that the businesses around are actually very appreciative of it um we are in

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cmx2 this is my client um and at this time i'd like to bring on my client to adopt my testimony

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do you have his name for us

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sean they have his name oh yes i'm sorry alex flack i apologize okay sure

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hi mr black it's a flack i'm sorry alex black mr flack

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chair there's no one in the audience by that name okay um counsel uh you're an officer i actually

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have him i could get him on my phone i think i think he got dropped for some reason oh sir sir

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counsel listen to me you're an officer of the court yes we'll take your testimony

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we'll take your testimony questions from the board questions on the board no mr chairman

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Questions from the board?

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Questions from the board?

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No, Mr. Chairman.

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No, Chair.

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No, Chair.

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Questions from our attorney, Hillary Emerson?

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Just a quick comment.

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I noticed on the refusal, it says it sounds like this is a new use,

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but looking at prior history and other recent building permits,

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It seems like this use is already established.

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You may just want to, if this is approved and you go back to L&I for your permit, make sure they're not looking at this as a new use because they're limiting it to the first floor.

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And from what I saw in the lease and other permits, it's more than just the first floor.

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Yeah, it extends above the second floor, but below the roof.

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yeah so i would so if this is approved um when you go back to to lni to get the permit just make

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sure they're not reviewing this as a new use um it wasn't it was a little unclear the way it was

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worded on the refusal and if it was a new use it shouldn't have a special exception as well

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um for it so yeah so i just want to make sure that nothing yeah that nothing gets messed up there

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no i appreciate that i didn't actually submit the initial application so that might be

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But nevertheless, thank you.

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Questions or comments from the virtual audience?

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There are no hands, Chair.

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Planning Commission.

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This is Ron Bednar, City Planning.

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The property is indicated for neighborhood commercial.

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Mixed use on a city plan, projecting signs above second floor are in keeping with the character of the block.

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Therefore, we have no objection to the grinding address.

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MI 2023-0006337, 308 South Street, I vote yes.

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Thomas Holloman, my vote is yes.

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James Snell, my vote is yes.

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Ishmael Shahid, my vote is yes.

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Thank you, counsel.

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Thank you. Have a nice evening.

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All right.

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Number four, MI 2023-006-332-1227 West Tioga Street. Benjamin Garrick is the owner applicant. Letter of support from Nicetown Tioga Improvement Team with one enforceable proviso.

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Benjamin Garrick has been promoted.

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Mr. Garrick.

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Hello.

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Hi, Mr. Garrick.

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Could you state your name for us and spell it for the court stenographer?

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Benjamin Garrick, B-N-J-A-M-I-N, last name G-A-R-R-I-C-K.

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Right.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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So this application is for two-family household living in an existing structure. The proposed use, two-family household living, is prohibited in the RSA-5 zoning district. Our vice chair has a few questions for you, okay?

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Good afternoon, counsel. Do you agree to wait to read another refusal or stipulate to its accuracy?

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excuse me yes have you emailed in all the required documents and exhibits that is needed

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five days in advance of this hearing yes i apologize getting late please proceed and

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please please proceed and share the screen one second

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should be a green button at the bottom so share screen

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One second, we're trying to figure it out.

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We did it earlier.

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We was practicing.

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well here's what i could do i have a few i have a few more to do why don't i move on

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and we'll come back for you and by then you no no you you got it okay go ahead

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let me just do it now share screen

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yeah you might just got to come back yeah whatever i'll do i'll come back don't worry

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Yeah, you might just got to come back.

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What am I going to do?

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I'll come back.

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Don't worry.

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We'll be back, all right?

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Okay.

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Sorry about that.

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Okay.

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That's okay.

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Number five, MI20230062842114Reed Street.

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David Jennings is the owner.

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David Jennings has been promoted, Chair.

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Hi, Mr. Jennings. Could you come on, please, and state your name and spell it for the court stenographer?

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Hi, Keith Harris.

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Yes. Could you state your name, please, and spell it for the court stenographer?

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David Jennings, D-A-V-I-D, last name Jennings, J-E-N-N-I-N-G-S.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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Yes.

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Mr. Jennings, could you put your video on, please?

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Yes, I can. Sorry about that, sir.

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No, that's okay. No, no.

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There we go.

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