in the city
is it broken down as a duplex
But is it broken now? Is it duplex now?
Yes, yes.
Okay, could you show us that?
So this is the first floor.
Are that him? He's going to have to testify, okay?
Yes, this is the first floor.
Okay, could you bring that up so we can see it?
So we're only seeing all the pictures. Can you double click?
Thank you.
can you see it can you see it yes sir where is that this is the first floor okay could you see
Do you have other photos to show us?
This is still the first floor.
This is still the first floor of the kitchen area.
Show me the second floor.
The second floor.
Okay, here we go.
This is the third.
This is the third.
You want this?
This is the third.
It's the ways in sequence.
oh it's the way it's in secret so this is the third floor so this is the third floor two three
floor stories you have yes and we're telling me how it's broken up it's broken up the you have
three you have three units yes the bottom floor is me and my brothers that i live on there in the
first the second and third was is being rented you have renters in the second so you have three
Do you have separate utilities?
Never had separate utilities in the three apartments?
No, it's a three-story house.
It was always running like that.
Because even if you look on the city, 30 years ago, it was going to say two-family household.
Two-family or three?
Two-family.
But the utilities are in the rent.
Because I stayed there, too.
So I just, I put the rent included with the utilities.
Okay. So when you went to Nicetown Tioga, how did the vote go?
Tell me about the vote.
Oh, so they passed.
So in the 1200 block of Tioga.
Where you live, how many other places or multiple families?
It's like the whole block almost.
Not the whole block, but definitely a good amount.
like it's right not even a block away from temple hospital like literally yeah i know where it is
yeah it's like literally like 20 steps all right questions from the board
what do you want to show me i did and i'm telling the deed it is the deed now no chair
I blanked out there
for a second chairman sorry I just
got back on
no questions
questions from our attorney Hillary
Emerson
um yeah i just wanted to to clarify because at the beginning of your presentation you said
you wanted to re-legalize this as a duplex and then there's some talk of three units and the
rco said you really wanted three units um but i am i'm confused at how many units you
you actually showed up i live on the bottom floor i rent the second and third but as a single unit
I do rent the second and floor third floor together as a single unit or those each unit
themselves okay so you're okay so you are asking for a triplex triplex okay in that case we need
to amend the refusal because the refusal says duplex but that's the way the house was already
since 30 years ago she just if you look at the paperwork she just recently changed what like
seven years ago when she passed when she passed no i yeah but no listen to me what she's saying
what she's saying is on the paperwork you asked for two when you got the when you went to this
the community you said three and you're telling us today three but you initially only asked for two
no i didn't tell that's what they told me i explained the layout to them and they just
oh that sounds like a three story and she said i'm going to pass it to the next people and they
can decide. Because I guess when I told them that it's three stories, she was like, I think that's
Because I guess when I told them that it's three stories, she was like, I think that's a three triplex.
a three-story, a triplex.
I said, no, I live there. I only rent two other places up top.
Yeah, I think I think there was confusion because this what you're asking for is an owner occupied triplex.
Right. Yeah. So you need to you if you want to have three units here, whether you live in one family rented, whatever.
the number of units determines what it is under the zoning code so three units is multi-family
triplex we need to have a refusal that reflects that before the board can vote on this so we will
need to have the refusal amended um and either myself or zba staff will reach out to you for
how how to do that um we essentially will need a letter um from you and then you'll need to go back
to lni and get and get an updated refusal and then we can vote on this okay okay and you'll hear from
us um you had a question i had a question i deal with the paperwork this is our first time so it
was kind of so we'll hear from you guys right yeah and i just wait for you guys and then we
have to reapply you saying you don't have to reapply you need to go back and get an amended
refusal um it's the same application but you're asking for one additional dwelling unit than what
you were asking for before and it needs to say that on the refusal before the board can vote on
it otherwise if we voted on it now it would just be a duplex but you have you're telling us that
you have three units and you want to legalize this three unit okay so amend the application
do i go on side the eclipse thing again and do it um you will be you'll end up emailing actually
the examiner directly but we will give you instructions for what to do oh okay excuse me
this is the court reporter could i please ask that the woman who's speaking identify herself
my name is rosemary garrick r-o-s-e-m-a-r-y-g-a-r-r-i-c-k thank you
um okay hillary do we want planning to take a position um if if they if not then we'll
have to do a resumption we also need to check for public testimony right okay questions or
comments from the virtual audience no hands chair planning commission this is uh ron bednar city
planning property is indicated for residential use on the city plan given the physical circumstances
of the site we recommend the request of variance be granted so so you're going to hear from us
right and you'll have to reapply at l and i and then we're going to bring it back okay okay well
not not re not reapply but we'll be sending uh materials to l and i issue an updated refusal
then we'll vote on it um aside from the amended refusal the record is otherwise closed one more
question so once we come back do we have to do this all over again uh no you take the vote within
you're on your tell us or we have to be here yeah yeah you know you don't have to be here for the
vote we just once we have their amended refusal then we can vote on it okay you're voting that
you let us know what the vote is yes ma'am if i could if i could just step in this is tanya real
quick so we will send you the decision that the board renders and then you'll be good to go after
we complete everything you don't have to come back to us or anything we'll contact you thank
you so much for the explanation thank you so much thank you okay is there anyone in the virtual
morning whose case has not been called there are no hands here thank you uh thanks everyone
i mean this has been this has been two long days this is a week it's just been two long days and
i and i really do appreciate everybody and tanya i appreciate what you did yesterday getting us
I always, always got to.