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ZBA Hearing - September 21, 2021

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Sep 21, 20214h 46m

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Let us know when you're ready, Lakeisha.

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Yes.

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Thank you.

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looks good right keith yes i was just about to say chair we have 36 37 attendees we're ready to

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start when you are very good thank you and uh everyone's on board good morning everyone my name

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is Frank DiCicco. I'm the chair of the Zoning Board of Adjustment. I'll be participating in

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today's hearing, along with our board secretary, Confessor Plaza, and board members, Mr. Thomas

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Holloman and Mr. James Snell. Board Administrator, Ms. Lakeisha Dandy, and our board attorney, Ms.

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Sharon Saleta, are also in attendance, as is our zoning board administrator, Ms. Tanya Sunkett.

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For those of you who haven't yet participated in one of our virtual hearings, I'll go through some

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the basics of what you can expect. First, we will be administering oaths to individual participants

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prior to their testimony. Second, we'd like to advise everyone that this proceeding is being

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recorded and that by participating you acknowledge your agreement to be recorded and that the

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recording will be made available to the public on the web or otherwise. Third, for anyone participating

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by phone, if you wish to testify, you must raise your hand by hitting star nine and then star six

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to unmute yourself. I'll repeat. For anyone participating by phone, if you wish to testify,

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you must raise your hand by hitting star nine and then star six to unmute yourself.

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Finally, to enter an appearance statement, call Google 267-270-5548 and leave your email address

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and the address of the property at issue.

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I'll repeat, to enter an appearance statement,

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call Google 267-270-5548

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and leave your email address

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and the address of the property at issue.

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And I would also like to remind everyone,

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please do not attempt to testify in the chat.

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If you have any concerns or comments

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that you wish to relay,

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please relay them to our board administrator,

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Ms. Lakeisha Dandy. With that, I will read off a list of requested continuances and withdrawals

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for the 930 list. Number four on our list, MI 2021-002421, 1720 North 59th Street.

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applicant is requesting a continuance number five on our list mi 2021-000739 1714 north

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22nd street is withdrawn number six on our list mi 2020-001856 1715 north 59th street is

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continued. And number 13 on our list, MI 2021-000738. 638 North Peach Street is being withdrawn.

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If anyone disagrees with the cases that I've read into the record to be continued or withdrawn,

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please raise your hand at this time. Only if you disagree with those cases I just read in to be

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continued or withdrawn. Please raise your hand.

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Chair, we have Steve Masters. Mr. Masters, you want to mute yourself?

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Good morning, Mr. Masters. Please spell your full name and I'll swear you in.

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Good morning, Mr. Chair, members of the board. Steve Masters, M-A-S-T-E-R-S. I'm with the law

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firm of JustLaws. You swear for him to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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you swear for him to tell the truth the whole truth nothing about the truth i do thank you

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I do.

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Thank you, sir.

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sir please proceed um yes mr chair i heard you read one of the four um appeals that i'm going to

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be um objecting to today 1714 north 22nd street mi2021000739 you stated that that one was withdrawn

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but there are three associated appeals with that are those also withdrawn are those not withdrawn

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today uh are you talking about 1720 1744 and 1750. oh here's where we are 1720 north 59th no

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my mistake hold on um chair i can tell him that those are going forward it's only the one of the

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forward but it's withdrawn yeah thank you okay thank you i have no further questions anyone else

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anyone uh disagrees with any cases that are being continued or withdrawn please raise your hand

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no more hands chair at this time i will ask if anyone would like to request

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a continuance or withdrawal please raise your hand at this time only if you're requesting a

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continuance or withdrawal? Please raise your hand. No hands, Chair. Okay, thank you. Sharon,

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did we find out from Leonard if he wants to go on first or later? Yes, if you could call those

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three cases first, Chair. Okay, so for those of you waiting, we're going to go a little bit out

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of order. We have someone from the law department who'll be joining us, and that'll be case

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Cases 3, 7, and 8.

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Correct, Sharon?

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That's correct, yes.

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Okay, so these cases will be heard all together.

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MI 2021-000242, 1720 North 22nd Street.

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MI 2021-000784-1744 North 22nd Street, and MI 2021-000242-1750 North 22nd Street.

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Mr. Masters, I believe, is the attorney of record.

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Excuse me, Chair.

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No, Rachel Pritzker is the attorney for the applicant.

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Mr. Masters is representing the protestants.

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Yes, and Mr. Reuter is representing the city.

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He is here only should there be questions about the accuracy of the refusal.

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Thank you.

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So we'll get Ms. Pritzker on to identify yourself.

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I'll swear you in.

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Mr. Masters has already been sworn in, and then we'll go to Mr. Reuter and swear him in as well.

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So, Rachel, if you're out there, please identify yourself, spell your name, and I'll swear you in.

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good morning rachel pritzker r-a-c-h-a-e-l pritzker p-r-i-t-z-k-e-r 1635 market street

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street 1600 philadelphia pa 19103 you swear for him to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but

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the truth yes rachel before you begin let's get leonard sworn in and then we can start we can

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proceed okay mr reuter uh thank you may please the board leonard f reuter for the city of

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philadelphia your last name please i'm sorry r-e-u-t-e-r these swear from the tell the truth

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the whole truth nothing but the truth i do thank you uh steve you've already been sworn in so

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rachel please proceed um just one thing mr chair um i had requested a copy of the exhibit binder

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be shared um with me as the opposing counsel and i have not received it excuse me mr masters i

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don't think you let anyone know that until yesterday afternoon is that correct i don't

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have any emails from steve i didn't even know he was opposing it or who he was representing

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i received exhibits from you after five yesterday i will gladly send you

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ms pritzker's um exhibits now i don't believe you copied you her on yours but i will send you hers

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now i was told that jeffrey young was the attorney for the applicant so that's who i was um corresponding

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with well my name is the applications so we ready to proceed with these cases yeah i i'd like to

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receive a copy of that too just in case um sharon when if you get a chance i will send um or steve

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you can just send them directly i'll send them to you later okay thanks

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all right okay yeah so i'm just gonna share my screen um just to go through the refusals and

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i'm just gonna share my screen um just to go through the refusals and then we have our

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And then we have our art.

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architect on the line who can go through the plans um this is just about for parking um

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everything all these properties are zoned rm1 so all we're trying to do is put accessory off

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street parking um on these properties um as you can see this this property uh 1720 is rm1 so is

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1744 50 um and 50 uh north 22nd street um these buildings are already built so um and they're

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multi-family by right so essentially all we're here is for parking um i know that jeff uh young

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who's on the call as well um was there for the community meeting and that most of the people in

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opposition don't live on the 1700 block of north 22nd street um and we're are more so opposed to

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the units in general. But again, these are by right, and we're just trying to accommodate

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parking. We hear nonstop that parking is an issue in the city. And when we go to provide it,

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somehow now parking is not an issue. So the only way to provide parking on these lots is parking

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access by a front street. We can't do anything, no other sort of accommodation for the parking.

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One of the reasons the other property was withdrawn is because we figured out a way to do a buy-write option there.

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It's not available to the other properties.

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So again, we're just here for parking on these sites.

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I'm going to have our architect, Logan Dry, present the plans.

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I'm happy to take any questions.

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and jeff young is also on the call um if if there's any questions as he was the one who did

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the community meeting and sort of attest to the fact that most of the concerns were

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not related to why don't we just get jeffrey sworn in now just in case all right so jeffrey

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if you're out there he's raising me he said he's having trying to get zoom working

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hey rachel this is logan if you want to swear you know have me sworn in you can do that while

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we're waiting logan please spell your full name sure logan dry l-o-g-a-n-d-r-y uh kca design

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associates 65 25 tulip street philadelphia pa 19135 you swear a firm to tell the truth the

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whole truth nothing but the truth i do thank you rachel we're having uh jeffrey's having

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technical difficulties yes okay let's proceed yeah you catch up with this we'll swear them in thank

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you

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yeah rachel uh logan uh would you present your screen and just go through the plans for uh

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parking for 17 20 44 and 50 i i actually i actually don't have screen share at this point

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So if you have it, I can walk through it,

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but I don't have the ability to share at this point.

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I'm on a mobile.

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Okay, give me one second, please.

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Sorry about that.

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Yeah, it's okay.

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I just didn't have it up ready to share.

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Okay.

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Can you see my screen?

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Yep.

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Okay.

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So, you know, basically what we have here, as Rachel mentioned before, you've got a three-story multifamily building.

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You know, when we initially designed this, everything was as a right in terms of coverage, setbacks, building height, unit count, et cetera.

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What we did when we did this initial design, we initially had designed a front recess of the building.

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um we were we were going to try to do something with uh perhaps some some covered outdoor space

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um so you know we designed all of this with that existing void in the front of the building

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initially it was going to be a covered terrace um you know so so you know once we got through

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and did some of the construction um you know looking at what the dimensions were of the

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building and looking at some of the other sites around the area we thought it would be a good idea

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to provide some accessory off-street parking.

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Again, as Rachel had mentioned,

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these streets don't run street to street.

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So unfortunately, if it was a rear-loaded street,

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we could get that parking as of right.

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But because the nature of this only having one street,

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the front-loaded parking from the main street

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was the only way to get access to that parking.

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And so as a result, we got refusals for front-loaded parking on site.

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We got refusals for front-loaded parking on site.

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Okay.

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And every one of the ones, 17, 20, 40, 40, 40, 50,

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are all trying to accommodate three accessory off-street parking spaces.

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It's also worth noting, just as I have this chart,

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I'll show the letters of support we have from the property owners

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and developers that are actually on this block.

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but uh most of this block is vacant that's why we mentioned that there's very few people who

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actually live on the block because most of the block is vacant um this church is owned by our

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client and then most of these vacant lots are owned by um the city so uh there aren't really

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any directly adjacent neighbors as you can see the block is mostly vacant and while parking is not an

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issue at this second um this is some of the units that we know to be in process at the moment um

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some of them are also owned by our client and some are not owned by our client but you have

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about 138 units coming on either under construction or with zoning submissions all of which would not

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be providing parking because you'd have to get a variance for them as they don't have an ability

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to have parking access by a shared driveway or a rear alleyway. So we're just trying to accommodate

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three parking spaces per building in order to help alleviate the constant concern of parking

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in our city, specifically in North Philadelphia. And also the fact there's about to be 130 units

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coming on this block, either under construction or rezoning submissions, and none of which would

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have off-street parking. Other than that, I'm going to show the support letters that

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we have. I'm just going to find them. I'm happy to hear, take any questions from there.

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Bring it up, the support letters? Yeah, I'm just trying to find them. I'm just trying

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to not give everyone a migraine while I look for them.

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So this is from the owner of 1724 North 22nd Street, actually on the block.

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1704-12 north 22nd street and 1711 north crosby street

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1726 north 2nd street

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and 1738 and 40 north 22nd street

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pretty much the extent of the properties that are occupied um yeah correct

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thank you like i said there's no other properties on the block yeah i mean your visuals show that

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i just was curious if that there's any others on that block but it doesn't appear to be

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okay um anybody have any questions for miss pritzker or uh mr dry at this time the board

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the board have any questions yes mr chairman mr hollivan yes let me ask you this prisoner

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could you uh develop these buildings by right without accessory parking yeah they're already

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built no that wasn't my question i said could you build them without accessory parking because

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they're already built with accessory parking no they're currently built without accessory

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parking right now what we're looking to do is add parking to them so the answer is yes uh

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mr halliman we could build them without accessory parking and they are already built with

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out accessory parking they were set back in a way to allow for the accommodation of parking in the

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event that um it it was it was important which it now is um but yes let me try it another way

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the buildings are already built with accessory parking that's done correct no they do not have

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parking right now well you don't have these spaces for parking we have the room for it but they're

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not built because we need to get a variance to do that that's why we're here no no not the room to

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build them it's a space one site designated for state for parking no well currently it's just

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land it's currently just no no no it's more than just land it's a space is there a

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it's currently just no no no it's more than just land it's a space is there a roof over it no

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and two walls that's not true i'm sorry i'm confused what you're asking me is it a carport

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logan i don't believe there's a carport there so so to clarify so we initially designed the

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building with a recess on the ground floor that was going to be used as an outdoor terrace area

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for the building and then after the the owner took a look at some of the other developments coming to

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the block we decided that we could use that space for parking so currently on site like there's no

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curb cuts there's no there's no anything related to parking only because we're converting what was

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