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ZBA Hearing - August 6, 2025

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Aug 6, 20255h 46m

that

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does not look like a

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legal egress window and that does not match the plan that shows egress well

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with flatter

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could be

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yeah perhaps these I mean these architecturals

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are not completed yet they're submitted and like we're seeking approval

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today forward so if those constructions are what's going to happen then i would

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assume that would be what what would be created

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i understand that but a lot of the dimensions on this are like not accurate or things that

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don't work so i guess if i'm trying to read it as is as though this is going to be built

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and I would have a lot more questions

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and

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the egress will

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I don't know, that's like a whole

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there's a process there, that it didn't sound

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like your client was aware

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or had addressed it

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so I was concerned

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basically because that's

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necessary for that bedroom to exist

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Sí, es que estoy viendo

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las dimensiones en esto y me parece

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que no son precisas

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y así como, si lo leo así como es

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para que se vaya a construir

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no sé, creo que tendría más preguntas

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pero

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aquí el punto de salida

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me parece que eso tiene que tener un cierto

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proceso y no pareciera

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...de que estén conscientes de esa parte.

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de que estén conscientes de esa

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parte

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Muy bien.

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Preguntas de nuestro abogado.

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No, no tengo preguntas.

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¿Comentarios de la audiencia virtual?

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No, en un momento.

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No hay manos levantadas.

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Thank you, Chairman, and good morning. David Fecto, F-E-C-T-E-A-U with the City Planning Commission.

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Do you swear or affirm that tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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Yes, sir, I do.

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Please proceed.

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Thank you, sir. Chairman and board members, the comprehensive plan recommends no change to the RSA5 residential single-family zoning at this location.

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Muy bien. Yo soy de la Comisión de Planificación y miembros de la Junta.

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La Comisión de Planificación recomienda que no se hagan cambios a la Zona Residencial de Uso Familiar Única, RSA5.

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The city rezoned this neighborhood in 1982.

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La ciudad rezonificó este vecindario en 1982.

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There is no unique physical condition or circumstance of this property that would prevent it from being used in strict conformity with the zoning code.

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Y no hay una condición física única para que prevenga la construcción de acuerdo a las modalidades estrictas establecidas.

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We are aware of three other code-compliant two-unit buildings on this block face.

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Estamos conscientes de los otros tres unidades de uso doble que cumplen con las codificaciones en esta zona.

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But the remainder of the homes are single family.

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The City Planning Commission recommends that the board deny the proposed use variants for two dwelling units.

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La Planificación de la Ciudad, la Comisión de la Planificación de la Ciudad recomienda que la Junta rechace el uso de la modificación para uso de, para cambiarlo a uso doble.

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MI 2024-006-024-4918

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Ellis Street, I vote no.

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Muy bien. MI 2024-006-024

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en la dirección 4918

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en la calle L, mi voto es no.

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Michael Johns, my vote is no.

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Michael Johns, mi voto es no.

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Cheryl Gaston, my vote is no.

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Cheryl Gaston, mi voto es no.

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Tanetta Graham, my vote is no.

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Ryan McAdams, my vote is no

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Taya Wynn, my vote is no

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Taya Wynn, my vote is no

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Thank you

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Thank you, counsel, and thank you, interpreter

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We appreciate your help

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Muchas gracias a todos

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Anything else I can do for you, Your Honor?

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No, we're fine

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Thank you very much, sir

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Number seven, MI2025-0000212128, Montrose Street.

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Jeffrey and Dina Goodwin are the current owners.

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Jeffrey and Dina Goodwin will be promoted to panelists.

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Mr. Chair, while they're being promoted, going back to number six, we did receive a letter of withdrawal.

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So if you want to read that into the record, we can have that matter withdrawn.

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Oh, okay.

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Number six.

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So, yeah, so that's right.

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We continued this before, am I correct?

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So MI 2024-007-432-1525 Chester Street, that case has been withdrawn.

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Thank you, Hillary.

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Jeffrey Goodwin

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yes hello good morning panel good morning good morning could you please state your name and

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spell for the stenographer yes my name is Jeff Goodwin g-e-o-f-f Goodwin g-o-o-d-w-i-n

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all right so this application with the erection of an addition with roof deck and roof deck

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So this application with the erection of an addition with roof deck and roof deck access structure above an existing attached structure,

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access structure

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no change to existing single-family household living, where the abutting lots on both sides or attached contain only two stories of enclosed area.

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The stories above the second floor of that attached structure should be set back an additional eight feet from the minimum required distance between the front facades and the front lot line,

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whereas the proposed addition has zero front setback

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at the third floor.

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Tenegric Graham has a few questions.

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Good morning.

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Have you submitted your documents five days in advance

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of this hearing?

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Yes, good morning.

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Yes, we have submitted our documents.

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I also just wanted to mention that my wife, Dina, is here.

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She's actually going to be leading the presentation.

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Okay, all right.

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Why don't you put her on and I'll swear her in.

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Okay, great.

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Thank you.

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Hi, I'm Dena Goodwin, D-E-N-A-G-O-O-D-W-I-N.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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Yes.

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Do you have any other questions?

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I think you read the refusal, but do you stipulate to the refusal of accuracy?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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You can proceed.

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Okay.

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Shall I share my screen?

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Please.

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Okay.

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Okay. Well, first, thank you very much for hearing our case today. So my husband, Jeff,

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and I are the homeowners of 2128 Montrose Street, and we really appreciate your time and

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consideration. We are here seeking a variance for a partial third-story addition to our home.

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So, we already do have a partial third floor on our home that covers about two-thirds of the area of the ground and second floors, and we are looking to complete our third floor by extending it to the front of the house along Montrose Street.

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Exhibit A here is our submitted permit request by our architect, Woodcock Design, and submitted the request for the zoning permit.

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Exhibit B is the permit refusal, in that we will no longer have the eight-foot setback

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on the third floor.

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Exhibit C is the application for appeal.

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As I mentioned, there's already a partial third floor on our property, and this is looking

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to that we're going to add an additional room which would require us to no longer have that

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eight foot setback requirement. There'll be no changes to the surrounding neighbors or to traffic.

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Exhibit D is our project information form that Woodcock Design submitted.

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Exhibit E is a copy of our house deed which we purchased.

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So, oh, sorry. So, so Dina, so we have we have everything you're shown. We already have what I would recommend you do is to go to the the plans, go to the photos, and then probably also talk about when you were at the RCO.

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OK, great. Thank you for that guidance. So let me do these initial drawings. Is this something we should go over exhibit H or should I keep going?

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Well, you could talk what was initially there and then show what you're going to do.

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Okay, great. So these are the exhibit H is the initial drawings that Woodcock Design submitted for the zoning permit. And so as you can see here in the section drawing, the two thirds of the third floor is existing. And then we are adding an additional bedroom that will take the third floor to along Montrose Street.

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We're also going to be adding a new roof deck to replace the existing one that we have now.

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And you can also see from these drawings how little of the rear facade of our house is changing since we, again, already have that partial third floor.

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Exhibit I goes through the changes since the initial submission.

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And so that includes that we have met with the RCO, the South Neighborhood Association.

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We made small changes to align with their recommendations.

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So we had previously had a solid front 42-inch high parapet wall.

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We now have a 42-inch high steel guardrail.

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We previously had the pilot roof was shown as flat, and we now have dropped the front

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of the roof.

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So there was a 2 and 1 4th percent slope, as recommended by the RCO.

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We previously showed a straight front facade.

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We now have a mansard roof sloped at the RCO, recommended 11 degrees, and where we were previously planning on using basic black roof tiles, we are now using a RCO-approved composite slate roof tile.

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And you can see those changes that I just...

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And you can see those changes that I just went through here in the updated zoning drawings.

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In this Exhibit J, it shows that we posted the notice, the zoning notice that's been

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up at our house since July 5th and still is currently.

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Exhibit K shows the existing site photos.

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So you can see here the current location of our roof deck, where we're now proposing to become the new bedroom.

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And you can see the aerial portion of our third floor, as well as some neighboring properties on Montrose Street,

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and also on Carpenter behind us, where there are already many three-story houses.

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Exhibit L shows the proof of the RCO meeting, so that will be in the next couple of slides

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here.

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So this is the letter as well as a flyer that was sent to neighbors in the area informing

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them of the project in a scheduled RCO meeting.

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These show the mail outs.

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And this shows the letter of support that we received from the RCO and we did receive

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unanimous support from our neighborhood RCO. In exhibit M, this first slide shows the proposed

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floor plans for the project. You can see the new bedroom on the third floor and the proposed roof

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deck and pilot house. There are no changes to the other floors in our home.

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These are some before and after renderings of when the project will be completed so you can

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see the existing on the top row and what the proposed house will look like after we've added

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the additional room. We plan to use the composite slate roof tile as the RCO recommended

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And it's also worth noting that because the pilot house

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is being set back and sloped,

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you can not see it from the street level.

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And you can see also here that our addition will be lower

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than the third floor home that is two doors down from us

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on the same side of our street.

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And again, you can see that the back elevation

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is largely unchanged since the third floor

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is already partially existing. My husband, Jeff, and I are the two witnesses today as the owners

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of the home. And again, thank you very much for your time and consideration. We really have enjoyed

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being in our home and hope to continue to be able to stay here and grow. So thank you so much.

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questions from the board yes this block has majority two-story homes and i was just wondering

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how many of the other properties have already done a similar third floor

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addition that is viewable from the street um on our on our block of montrose street yes

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yeah i haven't counted um there are a number of third story homes on our block and in uh in our

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submission is to the RCO like there is a neighbor who is you know to the we looking straight out

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like to the right across the street um who had a very similar addition put on um a couple of years

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ago um and there are a number of um three-story homes already on the street did you give a

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guesstimate like is it more than five is it Jeff do you have a yeah I think on our side of the street

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there are currently at least four three-story homes there may be a fifth one on the opposite

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side it's a quite a narrow street there's more I would say there's about seven on the opposite

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side taking up maybe a third of the block as a whole okay other questions community support

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was there RCO support and neighbor support yep yes okay yes we received unanimous support from

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the RCO. Yep, thank you. Did you talk? I'm sorry. I was just going to ask the total height of the

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building with the rooftop deck. I didn't see that in there. Let me see if that is.

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See that here?

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There's no, it's not a refusal height.

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It's not a refusal to hike.

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There's no refusal for hike.

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