civus
Hearing audio

ZBA Hearing - February 11, 2026

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Feb 11, 20264h 31m

i say been in play for 40 years and we're asking that the use of what was going on in 1627 also

Similar wording

continue in part at 1629, and 1629 happens to be RSA 5, so that's why both zoning districts

Similar wording

are referenced above. So the refusals of our multiple principal uses are prohibited in this

Similar wording

residential district, and commissaries and catering is prohibited in the RSA 5 zoning

Similar wording

district. And I'll show you at the end that the existing business has had a wholesale retail

Similar wording

and take-out permits since 1988.

Similar wording

This is the RCO letter of support.

Similar wording

Not only did all neighbors support it, the neighbors adjacent to the property,

Similar wording

but also all members of the committee, so there was unanimous support.

Similar wording

These are our letters, excuse me, our petition in support.

Similar wording

Mr. Walker actually lives next door to where the expansion is going to take place at 1631.

Similar wording

Then we have additional neighbors on the 1,100 block on Mountain Street, as well as on 11th

Similar wording

Street, which is not, I wouldn't consider them adjacent. Additional signatures from Mountain

Similar wording

Street, both the 900 block and 1,100 block, again, a little bit removed, but this is the more

Similar wording

important page. We have support from Varallo Brothers Bakery, which is at the corner of

Similar wording

10th and Morris. And I'll show you that in an aerial photograph. So they own three properties.

Similar wording

So there's three support signatures there. And also the other property that remains on

Similar wording

South 10th Street in this section is 1633, and there's a signature there by Ms. Vetri,

Similar wording

and there's also additional signatures from the 1600 block of South 10th Street.

Similar wording

More signatures, Mountain Street. All right, so just to give you a perspective, an aerial

Similar wording

view, this is South 10th Street. South 10th Street goes south, Morris Street, and then

Similar wording

Mountain Street. So the properties that we're talking about are seven properties between

Similar wording

Mountain Street, which is a small street, and Morris Street, which is a larger street.

Similar wording

So Esposito has been here for 40 years. As I say, they do wholesale retail, and they

Similar wording

also have a takeout permit from 1988 the idea is to expand the usage of takeout to the adjacent

Similar wording

residential property which has two apartments one apartment will be eliminated and we'll just

Similar wording

have ground floor access this door will be closed this window will be expanded to double doors

Similar wording

and i'll go through the floor plan and some other elevations as we move along you'll note

Similar wording

there's a dumpster on the side this dumpster has been here for 25 years at least there is a dumpster

Similar wording

permit and commercial trash pickup is daily you also note in front of the building there's no

Similar wording

parking signs there's a no parking from 8 a.m to 6 p.m every day it's only 30 minute parking

Similar wording

for deliveries and for people coming in to pick up goods or meat or roast pork whatever they want

Similar wording

uh goods or meat or roast pork whatever they want the rattle brothers bakery and i'll have more

Similar wording

the Rallo brothers

Similar wording

closer shots is at the corner of morris and 10th and then so if this approval if this request is

Similar wording

approved we'll basically have five properties on the block that are you know retail use and there'll

Similar wording

be two residential uh homes still in existence both of which support the project just another

Similar wording

view Morris Street Mountain Street 10th Street so now we're looking north again

Similar wording

just giving you more views of what the block looks like now we're looking south

Similar wording

residential across the street this is the Varallo brothers bakery as I said

Similar wording

They encompass three parcels, 1635, 37, and 39.

Similar wording

This is the inside of the existing establishment.

Similar wording

There's carving trays right here in the front of the building.

Similar wording

This is the entrance to the front door.

Similar wording

Just another perspective of the front part of the current establishment.

Similar wording

This is the rear where cooking takes place of the roast pork.

Similar wording

The meat is brought in by trucks, USDA approved, typically on a daily basis.

Similar wording

It's mainly roast pork.

Similar wording

That's what they're known for and have been known for throughout the years.

Similar wording

These are the two walk-in freezers where the product is stored.

Similar wording

Proof of the posting of the ZBA notices.

Similar wording

Uh, these are the revised plans will be submitted proviso form.

Similar wording

So, I'll walk through existing conditions right now, uh, starting from the left working to the right.

Similar wording

Uh, this is the existing first, excuse me, existing basement of the operating business right now as an office area, uh, a bathroom and a freezer.

Similar wording

1629 is a smaller basement, existing mechanical and basically an open area.

Similar wording

Existing on 1627, I showed you the photographs.

Similar wording

There's the front area where the countertops are, freezers, back area, and then the oven is in the far back.

Similar wording

Next door, as I said, is an apartment.

Similar wording

You can see all the dotted lines.

Similar wording

They all will be removed.

Similar wording

Everything on the first floor will be removed.

Similar wording

second floor it's really not pertinent because we're just going to keep one apartment in each

Similar wording

building proposed floor plans keeping 1627 the same 1629 there's going to be a meeting room

Similar wording

and then a freezer in the basement first floor is really where all the changes are going to take

Similar wording

place so as i said the door to 1629 will be closed up the apartment above 1629 will be entered

Similar wording

through the stairs on 1627. we'll have counter areas for customers to come in

Similar wording

some freezer boxes on the right hand side i should blow this up because it's not that visible

Similar wording

So a sandwich prep table here, sinks, stove, oven in the back.

Similar wording

There is no public bathroom.

Similar wording

These are the elevations.

Similar wording

Again, we'll work from left to right.

Similar wording

existing store with the two doors. This door on 1629 will be closed. We did have signage

Similar wording

originally on the application that's been removed. The only signage that will be in existence will

Similar wording

be what is existing right now, which I showed you at the outset. Double doors will be installed.

Similar wording

And then this is the rear of the property. Because we're putting an oven in the rear,

Similar wording

two-story part of the property. We have to run a stainless steel vent up above the roof line.

Similar wording

And there was discussion at the community group that this

Similar wording

venting looks rather close to the window on the third floor. I'll show you a side view. It's about

Similar wording

six feet away, but during the building process, I think we're going to have to bring this up to

Similar wording

roof and probably four feet in and then daylight it but whatever we are required for a building

Similar wording

permit that's what we're going to do this is the side view as i say this is six foot two the pipe

Similar wording

from the exhaust fan from the rear wall and this rail is really

Similar wording

since it's a side view it's really the showing the railing on 1627 it's

Similar wording

Since it's a side view, it's really showing the railing on 1627.

Similar wording

It's not on 1629.

Similar wording

Application for appeal.

Similar wording

My client doesn't have to pay the taxes until March 31st, but just thought it would be a good idea to pay it for this hearing and show the board that my client is on the ball.

Similar wording

So we did pay taxes for both $16.27 as well as $16.29.

Similar wording

There's the other receipt for $16.27.

Similar wording

Both have been paid.

Similar wording

Zoning map, this is the corner of Mountain and 10th.

Similar wording

CMX, one on the corner, RSA 5, one property in.

Similar wording

The deed indicating ownership of 1629 since 1995, and then 1627 since 1988, excuse me, 1986.

Similar wording

Notice letter sent to the community.

Similar wording

We sent out 193 pieces of mail.

Similar wording

There's our certificate of bulk mailing.

Similar wording

I just want to get to the zoning records.

Similar wording

So this is a zoning record.

Similar wording

I'll blow this up a little bit.

Similar wording

uh from 1988 indicating uh first floor food prep and takeout and second floor apartment

Similar wording

that's i believe that's 1988. uh and then this is what the property was back in the day in 1944

Similar wording

which really is irrelevant for our use it was a bakery and a two-family dwelling

Similar wording

And I just included the Varello Brothers zoning permit that they've been in place since at least 1995 for a bakery on three properties, the 1635, 37, and 39.

Similar wording

So this is a change of use.

Similar wording

It's really a continuation of use.

Similar wording

My client has great demand for his product.

Similar wording

Right now, he sells to restaurants, hotels, people who walk in off the street who want to buy pork, roast pork, roast beef, hams.

Similar wording

He has two to three employees right now.

Similar wording

If the expansion is approved, he'll have another two employees.

Similar wording

The employees that he has now either walk to the shop or they bike, and that's going to be consistent with what will happen.

Similar wording

If the expansion is approved, hours of operation are Tuesday through Friday, 9 to 5, Saturday, 9 to 4, Sunday, 9 to 2.

Similar wording

We don't believe this is altering the essential character of the neighborhood because of the seven properties on the east side of 10th Street.

Similar wording

If approved, there will be five properties that will be devoted to retail, Varallo Brothers, as well as Esposito Porchetta,

Similar wording

and the two adjacent neighbors are in support.

Similar wording

We're not impairing the use of light or air

Similar wording

on either side of the property.

Similar wording

We're not affecting the development of any properties

Similar wording

and we're in harmony with the desire of the community.

Similar wording

So with that, I'm going to ask my client to unmute himself

Similar wording

and adopt my testimony.

Similar wording

Henry, before he comes, there's no eating in the location.

Similar wording

Am I correct? Everything's out of there?

Similar wording

The way the application read was, not the application, my amended request was for no more than seating for three.

Similar wording

Three people?

Similar wording

Correct.

Similar wording

Okay.

Similar wording

All right.

Similar wording

Bring your client on.

Similar wording

Mr. Esposito, were you on the call?

Similar wording

Jules, can you unmute yourself?

Similar wording

If you are in the virtual audience, please unmute yourself or raise your hand.

Similar wording

julio esposito will be promoted to the panelist

Similar wording

your client has declined the promotion to panelists he has declined

Similar wording

I just I did about them to speak oh good morning mr. esposito could you please sure could you

Similar wording

please state your name is spelled for the stenographer yes my name is Jules Esposito

Similar wording

Jules last name esposito do you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing

Similar wording

but the truth i do counsel uh mr were you on the call when i presented your your project to continue

Similar wording

the use uh from 1627 to 1629 of your business yes i was uh if you had a chance to testify would you

Similar wording

yes i was uh if you had a chance to testify would you adopt my testimony as your own and as true

Similar wording

without my testimony.

Similar wording

and correct yes is there anything that you wanted to add that i missed no well you're right on the

Similar wording

ball ang all right all right thank you jules all right questions from the board yeah i have a

Similar wording

question so uh uh patrons will uh now only come into 1620 or will they be able to go into both

Similar wording

16 1629 rather and go to both 1627 and 1629 they'll be able to go into both mr johns okay

Similar wording

and so the the point of sale will be at both or how does that work because there's i don't

Similar wording

see a connection sort of up front between the buildings to you know to go into the

Similar wording

sort of patron areas it just seems you have the connection between two buildings um in the back

Similar wording

for the service and prep areas correct which makes sense so basically 1627 is going to maintain

Similar wording

the wholesale use uh and people who want to buy will be coming into people meaning neighbors

Similar wording

the general public will be coming in the 1629 but 1627 will not really be a place for customers to

Similar wording

come in and sit down or do anything like that okay thanks also the vent in the rear seems

Similar wording

problematic i think it will affect the air quality of the folks that are adjacent particularly the

Similar wording

one next door you've got a deck right there so if there's any way you could come in through the

Similar wording

building and go tight to the third floor and up to up be up above the roof uh would be good

Similar wording

because the way that it stands that uh exhaust vent is only about three feet above that second

Similar wording

floor roof so all the fumes would just blow right into the adjacent areas yeah i think i think you're

Similar wording

right on that. And there was discussion at the community group about that. And what Jules said

Similar wording

is he was going to take it up here, still six feet away, and then 45 to over above the roof.

Similar wording

I didn't mean to do that. But I think you're right. I think that's going to have to be addressed.

Similar wording

and i would i would hope that would be a building concern but i mean we'll put on the record that

Similar wording

we're going to get the end of that pipe away from uh either either those windows and as well as the

Similar wording

deck and then trash you said trash pickup is daily yes okay all right thank you all the questions

Similar wording

Okay, I'm still trying to figure out what we're doing in each building. So this,

Similar wording

the 1627, you're, when you say wholesale, what do you mean? You mean that

Similar wording

the meat is prepared and this is what you are delivering to other restaurants and things like

Similar wording

there is that right and i i guess i should expand on that because i don't think i was totally clear

Similar wording

to mr john so when i say wholesale it's also if you were having a picnic or a party you could go

Similar wording

in and you could you could buy you know 25 30 pounds of meat so it's not something that's going

Similar wording

to be as busy as 16 29. that's why i say it's more of a wholesale or a retail you can't go into 16 27

Similar wording

and you know buy a sandwich once we have 1629 going okay and then that's so 1629 is where

Similar wording

you're going to have the three seats and you're going to have basically takeout correct okay

Similar wording

all right and that would be of the meat so you're going to make the sandwiches and I guess you'll

Similar wording

have whatever it is that goes along with sandwiches is that right provolone and olives and you know

Similar wording

some condiments gotcha okay all right thank you i guess my general question is it seems like you

Similar wording

want to move the more retail location one house further into the block and what's driving the

Similar wording

decision to now have the retail store be the second storefront or the second facade in from

Similar wording

the block instead of keeping it on the corner and making the wholesale the one that is in the new

Similar wording

building given that there's more people that are going to come to the public one and it's on the

Similar wording

corner well the interior of 1627 is already set up for the wholesale

Similar wording

The interior of 1627 is already set up for the wholesale.

Similar wording

It has the large freezers for storing the meat that comes in that's pre-slaughter.

Similar wording

It has the carving tables.

Similar wording

So you would be talking about, you know, a whole new setup on 1629 and then putting what you wanted to do in 1629 and 1627.

Similar wording

So I guess the short answer is the client wanted to maintain the status quo at 1627 because everything's already in place.

Similar wording

Okay.

Similar wording

And Henry, the fact of the matter is this is not like a typical sandwich shop that's open late at night.

Similar wording

Not at all, no.

Similar wording

In fact, it closes pretty early in the afternoon.

Similar wording

Correct.

Similar wording

Okay.

Similar wording

All right.

Similar wording

Questions or comments from our attorney?

Similar wording

Just a quick question.

Similar wording

The dwelling unit that's remaining in 1629, is that on the second and the third floor?

Similar wording

I just didn't see plans for the third floor for what was proposed.

Similar wording

Yes, Ms. Emerson, right now there are two apartments there.

Similar wording

It's just going to be one apartment on the second and third floor.

Similar wording

Okay. All right. Thank you.

Similar wording

Questions or comments from the virtual audience?

Similar wording

Yes, Chair. I have a hand up by the name of Tom Durango.

Similar wording