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ZBA Hearing - February 11, 2026

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Feb 11, 20264h 31m

did take place at the playground at eighth and diamond on the last uh refusal although the plan

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is short one ada space the ownership is committed to meeting all requests for reasonable accommodations

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a term of art under the law at the proposed development and the layout that is proposed

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is to balance the community's request for parking also to be able to as you'll see in a moment have

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one curb cut in and one out rather than multiple ones to preserve the pedestrian experience and so

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the space is tight to take as many cars off of the street keep them out of the public view and

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and make this, make all the objectives work.

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Moving to the overall proposal, and I'll show you in some greater detail what's in front of you.

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and i'll i'll show you in some greater detail what's in front of you so 232 residential dwellings are proposed for the site as i mentioned 38 feet in height to the roof lines with setback roof access structures 10 feet high

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92 i'm going to turn to this colored rendering which i prefer and it is the same thing 92 accessory off street uh

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parking spaces within the interior where my cursor is and i'd like to note that you can see

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off of 8th street where the number 12 is that's the one curb cut in and the one curb cut out

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is on to 9th street where the number 12 shows again to indicate the drive aisle those are the

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only curb cuts whereas if you go to the site as i have there are multiple curb cuts for what had

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once been a very active industrial site in it some other things to point out on the plan

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there's pedestrian access into the courtyard here at number 11 to the left and in other locations

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So that there's movement in and out through a state style fencing, meaning you can see in and out, and it is inviting to the community while being safe and secure within the courtyard are the 2 a.

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spaces to electric vehicle spaces and there is room for 77 type one a bicycle parking spaces

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along the four areas that i'm trying to show with the cursor let's say middle top right middle top

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left lower left and lower right we can go in on that more if desired there are 20 triplexes

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uh up at the top of the screen fronting on ninth street there are 20 triplexes fronting on eighth

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street at the bottom and there are 13 proposed quadplex residences along both dauphin street

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and susquehanna avenue the blue at the right and the left i pointed out the curb cuts and just

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for the record there are seven existing curb cuts at the site right now to propose with this

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reimagining and you can see the 44 street trees that surround the property

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the subject property has been significantly underutilized

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i'd like to hone in for a moment on the pedestrian experience on the slide up on the screen right now

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so we are along 8th street at the bottom there's the entrance in for vehicular entrance in and you

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can also see a paved safe walkway on the right where the letter m is and where the letter l is

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on the left a paved safe walkway as well and you would see the same thing if you were coming in

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off of 9th street here you can see a sense of the elevations which hopefully you've got a good sense

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of through the conceptual renderings and this plan is just showing the 38 feet to the roof line and

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i had mentioned the setback roof access structures if there are questions we can come back to it but

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that's highly technical in nature uh the proposed floor plans i'd like to give a brief overview

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the quadplexes that i mentioned would front on both dauphin street and susquehanna avenue 14

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buildings each and you can see that these in front of you the typical quadplex floor plan

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shows a common entrance depicted here in gray at the first floor level which takes you to

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every unit within this individual structure. On the next page we have typical corner quadplex

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floor plans which are very similar but because they are corners there are obviously slight

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differences. And here we have the proposed triplexes that would front on both 8th and

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9th Street, showing you a typical triplex floor plan. Finally, the typical corner triplex floor

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plan is shown here. The roof plan doesn't add too much at all and just is showing you that there

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doesn't add too much at all and just is showing you that there are light wells

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There are.

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and roof decks for the upper units that are set back

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so in sum there are 40 triplexes proposed and 28 quadplexes the mix of units is really intended

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for the community in a number of ways we heard voices that seniors are looking for

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opportunities for affordable housing not being interested in maintaining homes that they've

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lived in for a long time but they also there's also a need for family-sized dwellings

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96 one-bedroom dwellings are proposed 96 two-bedroom dwellings are proposed and 44

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four-bedroom dwellings which is a real need not just in this community but in so many throughout

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the city of philadelphia the i2 use at this location is not practicable nor is it desired

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not by the community which is in support of this project a glance at the zoning map and the aerial

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photographs show that the zoning surrounding the property is solidly residential with a smattering

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of dated industrial common sense would dictate that the proposed multi-family residential use

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is most consistent with the resident residential character of the surrounding neighborhood

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and the authorization of variance relief will not alter the character of the neighborhood

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or district in a negative way it will certainly alter the the block itself but this is something

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that has been desired for a long time to meet the residential character of the surrounding

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neighborhood the authorization of variance relief will not alter the character of of the

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district in general and the proposal fits into the surrounding neighborhood as evidenced by

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the support of the councilman the non-opposition of the coordinating rco the commendations of the

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civic design review committee the proposed variance would represent the minimum variance

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necessary to afford relief after three years nearly of a detailed uh discussion we believe

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that we are bringing to this board the minimum variance necessary to afford relief and that the

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grant of variance relief will not substantially increase congestion in the public streets

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increase the danger of fire or otherwise endanger the public health safety or general welfare

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i would also like to note that uh all of the architectural plans submitted take into

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consideration the best practices uh that we have observed uh before this board and the city and we

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have the full team available to answer any questions and to go back and hone in on any

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of the plans that i've shared with the board today so why don't you have your testimony adopted and

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you would one more time how many units in the original project uh there were 501 mr chairman

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so you're you you're you almost cut it in half a little actually a little bit more than half right

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okay all right that was a real i mean it was a real and how high was it before it was well

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beyond the 38 feet that were okay all right why don't you bring your uh yes i'd like to call

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development associate isaac singleton to please raise his virtual hand to be recognized by

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chairman bergman they will be rejoining as a panelist thank you thank you mr hand

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isaac please unmute yourself so that chairman bergman can recognize you

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there he is isaac could you please state your name is spelled for the stenographer

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isaac singleton i-s-a-a-c-s-i-n-g-l-e-t-o-n do you swear or affirm to tell the truth the

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whole truth nothing but the truth i do counsel uh thank you for being here mr singleton as a

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development associate with 2200 n8 llc uh it's my understanding that you've been present for

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the entirety of this hearing correct yeah yes you adopt and affirm the testimony that i've offered

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as your own yes thank you all right questions from the board i'll make a comment initially i

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appreciate the fact that this development team has worked well with the community and has the level

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of support from the community i think that's that tells a lot about the development team

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Also, in terms of the way that the project has been laid out, the attention to providing safe access for pedestrians in and around this site, I think.

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Access for pedestrians in and around this site, I think, should be complemented, because a lot of the developments that we see that are large scale like this don't take that into consideration when you have these large parking areas.

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They don't consider the pedestrians, and I think you've done a good job with that.

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And you've stayed within the height requirement of 38 feet, which I think is commendable by listening to the community and their concerns.

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Also, of course, I've raised the standard concern that I have about basement living and bedrooms in the basement and the depth of the basements below grade.

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I don't know what that is, but they look pretty shallow.

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uh so i'm i'm there there's a concern there uh but overall i think the project

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uh has done a good job in terms of um thank you other questions may i just make a comment for the

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record very quickly thank you mr johns for for what you just said um the thought that was put

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into the lower bi-level units was quite intentional allowing for the stair access right out into the

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courtyard uh and um we feel very comfortable uh regarding uh that proposal um i have a question

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just in terms of some of the design i know we went through it real quick but um some of the units have

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rooftop decks and some of the they have access to it um i think no one shares the rooftop correct

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You're right, Ms. Graham. The upper-level units each have a roof deck where applicable, and for the quadplex residences, the lower-level rear unit will have a small garden fronting onto that courtyard.

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okay so i did see i think some of them had little balconies i'm not sure my concern is just there's

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no open space for folks um um and then the the the whole open space in the project is just catered

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toward parking and not toward like any place to sit out and just enjoy the weather um but yeah so

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so there is open space in every unit every unit has us some open space there there first of all

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I completely agree with you that the that there is limited open space overall there.

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This is a challenge with the site and in most instances units residences have private open space.

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There are a minority of residences that do not.

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And that is where we hope that the limited greenery that we've put on here is there in addition to the playgrounds, et cetera.

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But we have worked really hard to achieve that right balance.

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Other questions?

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I have a question about the number of accessible units.

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And just did I miss how many there are?

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I didn't put that on the record. We do not need Ms. Wynn. We're not seeking any variance

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relief for a reduction in code requirements on accessibility.

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For the housing units?

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Right.

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Okay. So my point is typically you're going to have at least 5% that are accessible, but

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but we've only got two accessible parking spaces.

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So I think my question was like one,

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not seeing ramp access into any of the townhomes,

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wondering like where these units are located,

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their proximity to the handicapped parking spaces,

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and why if we're gonna have more than two handicapped units,

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which I would assume just based on shared unit count,

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there's only two handicapped parking spaces.

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it's something it's something that we uh first of all uh the corner units

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are are the ideal uh residences for accessibility and maybe i should pull up for a moment

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screen share for a moment the um plan here again

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Okay, so I'm going to zoom in a little bit to the point you just mentioned, and I'm going

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And i'm going to go over to this section here of the courtyard 16 and 17, which is showing the 2 Ada spaces if if if this board makes the determination that it really wants the the plan to include

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to go over to this section here.

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an additional handicapped parking space at this moment in time it can be done with a reduction

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by one of a standard parking space we looked into this and we know it can be worked out

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it's feasible we had preferred to state publicly that we would make every request for a reasonable

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accommodation which actually means as you know going above and beyond the code if it comes up

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so the development team is not new to housing uh even in philadelphia has is known to the community

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and is absolutely willing to work on that but should ms win it become

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uh critical to to the board to have that um proviso it's something that we we understand

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although it would have to recognize a reduction in one parking space no i think it was less that

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i was trying to mandate that it happened i was just trying to understand mathematically

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where we landed and i mean to have 200 units you know five percent if they're ada and only have two

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parking spaces that means that you know even people who are just getting picked i mean i have

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a lot of there's a lot of units here and i have just general questions about like how we anticipating

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uh pickups and drop-offs because right now there's a you know one big building here that

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hasn't been in active productive use for a long time um and there's just this it's while i like

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density it's a lot of density that's gonna be a change in this neighborhood and i've seen the

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layout, but I haven't heard much about quality of life addressed. Well, I actually, I appreciate

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your comments. I think that the single curb cut in off of 8th Street and the single curb cut out

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off of 9th Street does allow for a nice flow through for pickups. And there is an abundance

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of parking available around the site for potential pickup drop-off. We can work with

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the streets department as needed to make sure that this is successful, and we can work with

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the 37th Ward RCO, for example, to make sure that it is meeting the needs. I think that we are

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looking at a balancing act of a very vocal i mean this hearing hasn't touched on it but a very vocal

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desire from not necessary leadership but from from the the neighbors who are there every day

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who are working right now and not able to attend the hearing to put as much parking into this site

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as possible while at the same time we recognize the planners and the city vision of that may not

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be completely in agreement with that so we had hoped that the design that is so refined now and

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before you um addresses that in the best way possible but it is we don't suggest that this

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is 100 perfect in every way it's real though and then is this um anticipated to be a low income

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housing tax credit project uh this is we're not anticipating any uh governmental uh benefits so

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any proposed affordability is it deed restricted there is there are no deed restrictions there is

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a community benefits agreement that was mentioned and this as whyyy recently noted in looking

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at this project it is a rare example of naturally affordable other questions real quick how

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was that parking lot lit lit because I didn't see any uh is it the lights are on the buildings

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or how is the parking lot lit the plan does not show uh right now a a interior lighting plan

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specifically but um lighting definitely needs to be a part of this uh and it needs to take

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into consideration those who live there right so it's not in their in their bedroom but also

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those who live there right so it's not in their in their bedroom but also the safety factor

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and we'll look that let me put that on the record that that needs to happen

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for the success of the project and the well-being of neighbors and those in the community it just has

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to all the questions i think that you mentioned that this might be a building that

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seniors might want to say downsize into so we've got steps right multi-level units and what have you

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how does that fit in with the plan to have seniors maybe occupy this property very very fair

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question miss gaston we don't we don't purport to be assisted living or independent living

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supportive community that that has meals and things like that it is going to be appropriate

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for those who are a bit more independent but don't are not able or wanting after years of

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having to do it to shovel the snow and to go down into uh mechanical areas and things like that

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so so there are some units that are more ideally suited for uh for both seniors with

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some limited mobility as well as Ms. Wooden was was stating for the uh accessibility units but

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we do this is this is not right if uh if if you want to maximize full use and are really needing

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more care all right or dealing with steps which okay there was there was some interesting

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discussion ms gaston probably about honestly like two years ago about whether there should be

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some buildings on the site that were restricted only to seniors because there was such a need

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and then there was a realization that came from the community not from us that generations want

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to be mixed and together and that there could be benefits to that and that that led to the

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proposal that's before you today all right thank you all the questions questions from our attorney

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hillary emerson not at this time mr chair questions or comments from the virtual audience

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mr chair i do not see any hands planning commission amy boy with the planning commission

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the comprehensive plan recommends no change in zoning to the existing i2 medium industrial

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the proposal completed its civic design review on november 2025. the civic design review committee's

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advisory recommendations are not an expression of the city planning commission's recommendations

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recommendations or opinions regarding zoning variances, special exceptions, or other discretionary approvals associated with this proposal.

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The proposal for residential three-story structures is in harmony with the surrounding land use.

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The area's zoning maps still carry the original 1933 districts.

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The appellant has not demonstrated that there are unique physical conditions or circumstances that prevent the property from complying with the required ADA spaces.

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The Planning Commission recommends that the Board grant the requested variances for multi-family and accessory parking, but deny the requested variances for ADA parking.

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Thank you.

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MI 2025-006-260-2200 North A Street, I vote yes with proviso per refusal dated 11-6-25.

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Michael Johns, my vote is yes with proviso.

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Cheryl Gaston, my vote is yes, with proviso.

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