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ZBA Hearing - February 24, 2021

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Feb 24, 20216h 14m

it only had two refusals, that they were the arbiter of the refusal, and they were going to

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issue the refusal as they saw fit. Accordingly, we moved forward, and we presented the project,

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and the project has not changed in any of its iterations to being presented to any community

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stakeholders. So everyone is at all times and has been aware of what this project is.

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When this project was presented to Fishtown Neighbors Association, FNA, they raised some

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concern that the refusal, this first refusal, was incorrect. We had already stated that in writing

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two to them. We admitted that we thought there were different refusals that should be in place.

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So you may recall, we presented under this first revised refusal just about two weeks ago, exactly.

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And FNA had no objections to the project, but they had concerns that the refusal was still

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and correct. And they had actually gone through LNI to get this second revised refusal done.

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About eight days later, after the first revised refusal, we got this second revised refusal.

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Again, the project has not changed. Everybody has been aware and always has been aware of what's

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going on here. And in fact, as I stated before, the project we're proposing was requested by

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the community so that we wouldn't put parking and driving and townhomes facing on Lee Street.

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So the two issues that we have right now with the refusal and the reason why we could not sign

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and agree to waive and stip is that this fourth refusal right here is correct as to parcel A.

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However, as to parcel B, they come up with a 77.26%. That's frankly incorrect math.

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um it's on all the plans that as to this fourth refusal as to parcel b is incorrect because

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that as to this fourth refusal as to parcel B is incorrect because it does meet the maximum 75%.

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So that should not be there. And the only other issue is this third refusal shows a we're building

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a proposed building height of 55 feet. That's actually not correct. That's including of a

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pilot house and everything else. What happened was because the project sort of has this trapezoidal

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shape. It caught a corner of the roof deck and the pilot house, and those didn't meet the proper

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setbacks. We presented to Ms. Saleta and to the board two weeks ago proviso plans that pull back

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the roof deck and the pilot house appropriately to cure that height condition. So again, just to

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give you a very quick analysis we're going to have uh on lee street uh vacant commercial that

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we're going to try to put in um with uh apartments above everybody has known this at all times and

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here's the you know here's frankfurt avenue um and i know we've we've addressed some of this

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before so i'll go quickly and just ask if the board has any questions since the only reason

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this was continued was for fna's concerns about a revised refusal and to see if they had any actual

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objections to the project which they did not last time um so if you're going around uh this is where

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the lee street side will be as you can see across lee street is all uh dilapidated and rundown

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warehouses or vacant lots um so here are more that that's uh the state of construction on the

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new building as of about a month ago um this is what's immediately across the street from us

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um so obviously this whole street you know is is a work in progress and this is what fna is hoping

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to do is really uh make this street this lee street into a pedestrian walkable friendly uh area

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um so again here are just some of the walkways around we have the provised uh proviso plans

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and um here you can see where we're uh dividing the line and then this is going to be the new

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project um with that i would suggest that uh nothing i've said today is all that new or

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different um but i would like to have um uh the project architect just briefly walk through the

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plans to explain to you what it is so that we have it on the record as as leonard pointed out as long

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as we have it on the record uh you know this board is authorized to make whatever decision they want

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um so jose hernandez are you on

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No one here is raised by, okay.

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Oh, can you hear me?

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Yes, Mr. Hernandez, is that you?

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It is.

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Okay.

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Good afternoon, sir.

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Please identify yourself with a record.

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Spell your last name and I'll swear you in.

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Jose Hernandez, H-E-R-N-A-N-E-E-Z.

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Could you speak a little closer to the microphone, please?

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Jose Hernandez, H-E-R-N-A-N-E-E-Z.

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He's still a little bit weak, but you're swearing for him to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Thank you. If you can speak up a little bit louder, that would be helpful. Thank you.

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All right. And Mr. Hernandez, you are the project architect, correct?

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I am.

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And you're from JKRP Architects?

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I'm a principal at JKRP Architects.

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Okay. And you heard all of the testimony I just presented?

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I did.

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And do you believe it to be true and correct to the best of your knowledge?

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I do.

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And would you adopt it as your own?

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I would.

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Okay. And now, kindly for the board, because this needs to be on the record,

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could you briefly walk through a summary of the project being presented and these plans?

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If you want a different page pulled up, I'm happy to do it,

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but I have the zoning plan pulled up at the moment.

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The zoning plan illustrates the footprint of the building

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in relationship to Lee Street.

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Again, we're having,

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I don't know if the court reporter is able to hear you.

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Your voice is very faint.

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If you can get closer or raise the volume.

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One second.

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Thank you.

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can you hear me now yes oh much better much better thank you great uh the project you have before

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you is the uh the site plan which illustrates that as sean mentioned the footprint of the building

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relationship to lee street sean do you have the uh the rco presentation i thought you were going

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to ask that so i was just pulling it up okay so i'll briefly go through uh some first few pages

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is the information sean mentioned which uh the first page highlights the site i have the orange

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portion which is the rear of the parcel of 1324 frankfurt uh go to the next page again this is

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It's just zoning, which shows the site as CMX2.

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And again, a division of the site plan, the subdivision of the two parcels.

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Images.

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So this is an image of the original site plan.

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I've highlighted the pilot houses, which triggered the initial refusal for the pilot house that's located towards the top was encroaching upon a required setback.

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we'll show you the illustrated, the revised portion.

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This was in reference to the original proposals, the original refusals, and we provide a clarification

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on why those refusals were incorrect.

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The portion on the right illustrates the density bonus in the calculation of 16 units

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versus the 13 that was initially on the variance.

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The second refusal was in relationship to the pilot house, and the lower image on the right shows the new pilot house, which complies with the required setbacks.

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And now, Mr. Hernandez, just to jump to the conclusion, the project has not substantially changed in any way from its initial conception back in May when it was first submitted to L&I, correct?

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It has not.

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Okay.

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This is just a ground floor. The blue indicates a lobby space. The beige or orange color is a

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commercial, a proposed commercial use that fronts onto Lee Street. Prototypical floor plan. The

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second floor has a small amenity space with units that front onto Lee Street and the roof plan,

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And again, that illustrates the setbacks of the pilot house and a limited roof deck with a green roof.

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Shadow studies indicating how the project, the shadows it would cast through three times a year.

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You're looking at March, June, and December.

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Sectionally, the height variance that the 45 feet that we're seeking has a proposed higher ceiling at the ground floor for the commercial use, which takes the project to a 45-foot height.

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And again, the pilot house is allowed 10 feet in addition to that 45 foot.

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So we have the pilot house, which is indicated at the 55-foot dimension.

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An aerial axon just showing the new proposed building in site context with a simplified box for the existing building that's along Frankfort Avenue.

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Elevations of the project, materiality.

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Our thought of time was to utilize a predominantly brick base with kind of an industrial feel above of a metal material with areas that are carved out.

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so you kind of see a differential and in a presentation we have uh in one of the earlier

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images that sean had illustrated and shown uh there's there are a few murals around the area

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so we thought it would be an opportunity to place a mural on our building um that would be at the

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northern end and a perspective looking along lee street of what the proposed project would be

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and propose another image looking south with the mural image that I indicated on the left there.

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All right. Thank you, Mr. Hernandez. I would just offer before he signs off,

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Mr. Hernandez, for any questions that the board may have.

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Questions from the board?

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No.

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No.

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No.

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Okay. Thank you, Mr. Hernandez. With that, Mr. Chairman, I would rest my case. I do have

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Okay.

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Thank you, Mr. Hernandez. With that, Mr. Chairman, I would rest.

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Ori Fibush here on behalf of the owner, if anyone from the board would like to hear from him. I

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believe, again, my testimony is duplicative of what the board heard in the first iteration of

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this hearing, so I don't know that he needs to adopt my testimony, but I can go through that

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process as well. And other than that, I think we've addressed all the concerns with regard to

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revised refusal that the board had at the conclusion of the first hearing thank you

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uh is there anyone else who would like to testify in this case if so raise your hand

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no hands chair thank you planning commission yes uh this is uh ron bednar city planning it's uh

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r-o-n-b-e-d-n-a-r do you swear and affirm to tell the truth the whole truth nothing

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about the truth. I do. Thank you. Please proceed. The comprehensive plan recommends this property

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for commercial mixed use. We do not have objection to the additional height or density.

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Both are in keeping with the new development that we have seen in the past.

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quishtown therefore we have no objection to the granting of the banks thank you mi 2020 that's

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zero zero three zero eight nine one three two four frankfurt avenue my vote is mr will do we have

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any revised plans uh yes you should have two pages of revised plans which were previously sent to

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I'm sorry, Jose, yeah, Mr. Hernandez, can you confirm that?

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I thought I sent two pages.

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Hernandez?

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Give me one second to you.

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I will pull up very quickly the email.

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I have it in front of me.

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It's pages 18 and 19 in your exhibit package.

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okay okay i believe i believe yes i believe i believe it's the plan that sean indicated which

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is uh a site plan with uh with zoning information i don't i don't believe there's a second page

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yes you you are correct miss soletta i apologize for the confusion to the board

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uh it is one page i i was including mistakenly in my head the um actual proviso form itself

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but it's it's one page of this okay no worries thank you all right thank you mi 2020-003089

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1324 frankfurt avenue my vote is yes with the proviso revised plan one page adopted today

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my vote is yes sorry frank yes yes with proviso yes with proviso yes with proviso

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Calendar number 1333. Thank you everyone for your time. Thank you. Thank you. Calendar number 1333,

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2027 Ellsworth Street.

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Carol, this is a resumption hearing and I believe when we left off

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there was one or two neighbors had suggested that there may be some other

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type of solar panels that could be used to accomplish what the applicant is trying to

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accomplish right if you recall that so that's really what the resumption is all about

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right and and we also have a letter of opposition

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yes but that came from point threes point threes i believe that there was a lady on the i can't

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recall her name she had made some suggestions and we said okay we would resume this hearing

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right so today mr kane is on he's the applicant i believe that's correct turning

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so uh mr kane could you speak to what the lady who uh asked us to for you to reconsider

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the material or the way the layout would would appear i can and and before i do that um

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just to be clear i believe um the vice chair uh miss tenari mentioned a letter of opposition

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that isn't something um i've ever seen before before we get to that let me swear you in spell

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your first and last name d-e-r-e-k last name k-a-n-e you're at 2027 ellsworth correct

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that's correct you swear and affirm to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth

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I do.

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So I just want to pick up where you just left off.

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You said you've never seen a letter of opposition?

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Unless that is from the RCO board that we presented to.

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the rco board that we presented to rco point three cdc i believe okay i would take that back

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Yeah, the RCO, Point Breeze CD.

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then my understanding was it was a it wasn't supporting us maybe that's not uh maybe that's

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the same as the letter of opposition um so i apologize yes more or less yes all right uh

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so do you have any knowledge of what um again i apologize i don't remember the lady's name i

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if she's on if she is would you please raise your hand ma'am yes i'm about to say chair if i may um

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i have two people with their hands up i have a caller i believe was it tiffany green that's my

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understanding it was tiffany green okay you're right tiffany green is she on i can um check this

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caller caller ending in 4637 you can unmute yourself i'm on i'm okay i'm on the meeting

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can you hear me yes can you um state your name spell your last name oh yeah tiffany green

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good afternoon miss green please identify yourself name and address

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uh tiffany green uh 1518 south 22nd street and you swear and affirm to tell the truth the whole

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truth nothing but the truth yes okay if you you heard you heard my statements uh earlier um

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And I believe you had some suggestions or recommendations you thought might be able to accommodate what Mr. Cain is trying to do regarding solar panels.

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Yes, I do. And I did email them in yesterday. I apologize.

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The internet was in and out with the snowstorm, so I had a hard problem.

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But I was able to complete the letter and send in copies of what we suggested.

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and what we suggested was

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there's two types

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of, I don't know, were you able to

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take a look at the pictures?

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No. Hold on

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one second. Sharon, do we have that

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information?

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I can

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look forward and email it to you.

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Yes, we do. If you like, I can email it

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