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Committee Hearing, June 6, 2011

Minutes from Philadelphia City Council Committee Hearings, Jun 6, 2011

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Mr. White

Yes, Madam Chair,3 we have. I have mentioned some of those4 concerns to them briefly while in the5 session, and I believe the Commissioner6 has said he's willing to meet.7 COUNCILWOMAN TASCO:8 Commissioner, you want to make a comment9 about this. He raised some issues about10 future problems associated with11 acquisition of properties that may be12 liened or something for the CDCs to13 acquire.14 COMMISSIONER NEUKRUG: Yes, and15 thank you for allowing me to come back16 up, and thank you, Mr. White, for17 bringing these issues to my attention.18 The D-Permit ordinance that's19 in front of you really is to close this20 loophole and to make things fairer for21 residential customers in Philadelphia and22 for our industrial customers as well.23 In terms of -- I did read24 through Mr. White's testimony, and I25 177 6/6/11 - FINANCE - BILL 110297, ETC.1 think with some discussion, we're2 certainly on the same page. Our intent3 is on the same page. My question for you4 is -- I'd welcome having public dialogue5 right now. I am looking for this6 ordinance to be moved today. So I'm7 wondering how we can proceed with that8 and with Mr. White, whether it's publicly9 through you or, Mr. White, if we could10 meet later this week and discuss this.11

Mr. White

Well, as I12 mentioned, with your permission, Madam13 Chair, we would like to meet with the14 Commissioner and his staff, along with15 some of our leadership and our Board of16 Directors who have brought these17 concerns, and I serve them, they're my18 constituents, in a -- not in this forum,19 but in another meeting, but would hope20 that Council would recess the hearing and21 convene before the end of session so that22 we can move this significant legislation.23

Councilwoman Tasco

Well, what24 we can do, we can move it out of25 178 6/6/11 - FINANCE - BILL 110297, ETC.1 Committee. It stays on the Calendar2 until we vote it. That way -- because we3 are in a short time space, and so if you4 resolve your issues within the next day5 or so, then we can move it. It goes to a6 first reading and then a final vote with7 final passage. So if we leave it here,8 then we'll have to come back for another9 hearing. So we can move it out of the10 hearing. It will stay on the Calendar11 until you all have resolved your issues.12 COMMISSIONER NEUKRUG: Thank13 you, Councilwoman.14

Mr. White

Thank you,15 Councilwoman.16

Councilwoman Tasco

Thank you.17 All right. Anyone else to18 testify on anything?19 (No response.)20

Councilwoman Tasco

Here we21 go. We will adjourn our public hearing22 and go into our public meeting.23 We now ask Councilwoman24 Blackwell to offer amendment to Bill25 179 6/6/11 - FINANCE - BILL 110297, ETC.1 110 -- I'm sorry. We'll ask Councilman2 Goode to offer an amendment to Bill3 110297.4

Councilman Goode

Thank you,5 Madam Chair. I move the amendment to6 Bill No. 110297 be approved.7 (Duly seconded.)8

Councilwoman Tasco

It has9 been moved and properly seconded that the10 amendment to 110297 be adopted.11 All in favor?12 (Aye.)13

Councilwoman Tasco

Is there14 any opposition?15 (No response.)16

Councilwoman Tasco

There17 being none, the amendment is passed.18 The Chair recognizes Councilman19 Goode to vote Bill 110297 out of20 Committee.21

Councilman Goode

Thank you,22 Madam Chair. I move that Bill No.23 110297, as amended, be reported out of24 the Committee with a favorable25 180 6/6/11 - FINANCE - BILL 110297, ETC.1 recommendation and the rules of Council2 be suspended so as to permit first3 reading at our next Council session.4 (Duly seconded.)5

Councilwoman Tasco

Thank you.6 It has been moved and seconded that Bill7 110297, as amended, be reported out of8 Committee with a favorable recommendation9 and that the rules of Council be10 suspended so this bill can have first11 reading in Council's next session.12 All in favor will say aye.13 (Aye.)14

Councilwoman Tasco

There15 being no opposition, this motion is16 carried.17 Bill 110371 -- I'm sorry. The18 Chair recognizes Councilman Goode to19 report out Bill 110371.20

Councilman Goode

Thank you,21 Madam Chair. I move that Bill No. 11037122 be reported out of Committee with a23 favorable recommendation, that the rules24 of Council be suspended so as to permit25 181 6/6/11 - FINANCE - BILL 110297, ETC.1 first reading at our next Council2 session.3 (Duly seconded.)4

Councilwoman Tasco

It has5 been moved that Bill 110371 be reported6 out of Committee with a favorable7 recommendation and that the rules of8 Council be suspended so this bill can be9 heard at Council's next session.10 All in favor will say aye.11 (Aye.)12

Councilwoman Tasco

Any13 opposition?14 (No response.)15

Councilwoman Tasco

There16 being none, this motion is carried.17 The Chair recognizes Councilman18 Greenlee on Bill 110375.19

Councilman Greenlee

Thank20 you, Madam Chair. I move that Bill No.21 110375 be reported out of this Committee22 with a favorable recommendation and that23 the rules of Council be suspended to24 allow for first reading at our next25 182 6/6/11 - FINANCE - BILL 110297, ETC.1 session of Council.2 (Duly seconded.)3

Councilwoman Tasco

It has4 been moved and seconded that Bill 1103755 be reported out of Committee with a6 favorable recommendation and that the7 rules of Council be suspended so as to8 hear this bill at Council's next session.9 All in favor?10 (Aye.)11

Councilwoman Tasco

Any12 opposition?13 (No response.)14

Councilwoman Tasco

There15 being none, the motion is carried.16 We now call on Councilman17 Greenlee for Bill 110376.18

Councilman Greenlee

Thank19 you, Madam Chair. I move that Bill No.20 110376 be reported out of this Committee21 with a favorable recommendation and that22 the rules of Council be suspended to23 allow for first reading at our next24 session of Council.25 183 6/6/11 - FINANCE - BILL 110297, ETC.1 (Duly seconded.)2

Councilwoman Tasco

It has3 been moved and seconded that Bill 1103764 be reported out of Committee with a5 favorable recommendation and the6 recommendation that the rules of Council7 be suspended so this bill can be heard at8 Council's next session.9 All in favor?10 (Aye.)11

Councilwoman Tasco

Any12 opposition?13 (No response.)14

Councilwoman Tasco

There15 being none, the motion is carried.16 The Chair recognizes17 Councilwoman Blackwell for Bill 110445 as18 amended, the amendment to 110445.19

Councilwoman Blackwell

Madam20 Chair, I move that --21

Councilwoman Tasco

Excuse me.22 110445, report that out.23

Councilwoman Blackwell

Madam24 Chair, I move that Bill No. 110445 be25 184 6/6/11 - FINANCE - BILL 110297, ETC.1 reported out of Committee with a2 favorable recommendation and a3 recommendation for suspension of the4 rules so as to permit first reading at5 our next session of Council.6 (Duly seconded.)7

Councilwoman Tasco

It has8 been moved and seconded that Bill 1104459 be reported out of Committee with a10 favorable recommendation and a11 recommendation that the rules of Council12 be suspended so this bill can be heard at13 Council's next session.14 All in favor?15 (Aye.)16

Councilwoman Tasco

There17 being no opposition, the motion is18 carried.19 The Chair recognizes20 Councilwoman Blackwell to report the21 amendment of 110447.22

Councilwoman Blackwell

Thank23 you, Madam Chair. I move that Bill No.24 110447, that the amendment be adopted.25 185 6/6/11 - FINANCE - BILL 110297, ETC.1 (Duly seconded.)2

Councilwoman Tasco

It has3 been moved that Bill No. 110447 -- that4 the amendment to Bill 110447 be adopted.5 All in favor?6 (Aye.)7

Councilwoman Tasco

It has8 been moved and seconded that the9 amendment to Bill 110447 be adopted.10 All in favor say aye.11 (Aye.)12

Councilwoman Tasco

It's been13 amended.14 Now we call on Councilwoman15 Blackwell to report out Bill 110447, as16 amended.17

Councilwoman Blackwell

Thank18 you, Madam Chair. I move that Bill No.19 110447, as amended, be reported out of20 Committee and that the rules of Council21 be suspended so as to permit first22 reading at our next session.23 (Duly seconded.)24

Councilwoman Tasco

It has25 186 6/6/11 - FINANCE - BILL 110297, ETC.1 been moved and seconded that Bill No.2 110447, as amended, be reported out of3 Council with a favorable recommendation4 and that the rules of Council be5 suspended so we can hear this bill at6 Council's next session.7 All in favor will say aye.8 (Aye.)9

Councilwoman Tasco

There10 being no opposition, the motion is11 carried.12 The Chair recognizes13 Councilwoman Blackwell for Bill 110373.14

Councilwoman Blackwell

Thank15 you, Madam Chair. I move that Bill No.16 110373 be reported out of Committee with17 a favorable --18

Councilwoman Tasco

There was19 an amendment. I'm sorry.20

Councilwoman Blackwell

I move21 for the adoption of the amendment to Bill22 No. 110373.23 (Duly seconded.)24

Councilwoman Tasco

It has25 187 6/6/11 - FINANCE - BILL 110297, ETC.1 been moved and seconded that we adopt the2 amendment to 110373.3 All in favor?4 (Aye.)5

Councilwoman Tasco

There6 being no opposition, the motion is7 carried.8 The Chair recognizes9 Councilwoman Blackwell.10

Councilwoman Blackwell

Thank11 you, Madam Chair. I move that the12 amended bill, 110373, be reported out of13 Committee and for a suspension of the14 rules so as to permit first reading at15 our next session of Council.16 (Duly seconded.)17

Councilwoman Tasco

It has18 been moved and seconded that Bill 110373,19 as amended, be reported out of Committee20 with a favorable recommendation and that21 the rules of Council be suspended so that22 we can hear this bill at Council's next23 session.24 All in favor will say aye.25 188 6/6/11 - FINANCE - BILL 110297, ETC.1 (Aye.)2

Councilwoman Tasco

Is there3 any opposition?4 (No response.)5

Councilwoman Tasco

The Chair6 recognizes Councilwoman Blondell Reynolds7 Brown relative to Bill 110363.8

Councilwoman Brown

Thank you,9 Madam Chair. I move that Bill No. 11036310 be reported out of Committee with a11 favorable recommendation and further move12 that the rules of Council be suspended so13 as to permit first reading.14 (Duly seconded.)15

Councilwoman Tasco

It has16 been moved and seconded that Bill No.17 110363 be reported out of Committee with18 a favorable recommendation and that the19 rules of Council be suspended so as to20 have a hearing on this -- Council will21 hear this bill at Council's next session.22 All in favor?23 (Aye.)24

Councilwoman Tasco

The motion25 189 6/6/11 - FINANCE - BILL 110297, ETC.1 is carried.2 The Chair recognizes Councilman3 Greenlee for Bill 110446.4

Councilman Greenlee

Thank5 you, Madam Chair. I move that Bill No.6 110446 be reported out of this Committee7 with a favorable recommendation and that8 the rules of Council be suspended to9 allow for first reading at our next10 session of Council.11 (Duly seconded.)12

Councilwoman Tasco

It has13 been moved and seconded that Bill No.14 110446 be reported out of Committee with15 a favorable recommendation and that the16 rules of Council be suspended so that17 this bill can be heard at Council's next18 session.19 All in favor will say aye.20 (Aye.)21

Councilwoman Tasco

There22 being no opposition, the motion --23

Councilwoman Blackwell

Yes.24

Councilwoman Tasco

Let the25 190 6/6/11 - FINANCE - BILL 110297, ETC.1 record show that Councilwoman Blackwell2 has opposition, has voted no. But we'll3 work it out.4 Let me note that Resolution5 110453 for Fiscal Year 2012 NTI Program6 Statement will be heard Thursday, June7 9th at 9:30 a.m.8 The Chair recognizes9 Councilwoman Blackwell for Bill 110229.10

Councilwoman Blackwell

Thank11 you, Madam Chairman. I move that Bill12 No. 110229 be reported out of Committee13 with a favorable recommendation and14 also -- I move that the amendment to15 110229 be adopted.16 (Duly seconded.)17

Councilwoman Tasco

It has18 been moved and seconded that the19 amendment to 110229 be adopted.20 All in favor will say aye.21 (Aye.)22

Councilwoman Tasco

Any no's?23 (No response.)24

Councilwoman Tasco

There25 191 6/6/11 - FINANCE - BILL 110297, ETC.1 being no opposition, the amendment is2 adopted.3 The Chair recognizes4 Councilwoman Blackwell to move Bill5 110229 out of Committee.6

Councilwoman Blackwell

Thank7 you, Madam Chair. I move that Bill No.8 110229, as amended, be reported out of9 Committee and also for a suspension of10 the rules so that this bill may be heard11 at our next session of Council.12 (Duly seconded.)13

Councilwoman Tasco

It has14 been moved and seconded that Bill 110229,15 as amended, be reported out of Committee16 with a favorable recommendation and that17 the rules of Council be suspended so to18 have this bill read at Council's next19 session.20 All in favor will say aye.21 (Aye.)22

Councilwoman Tasco

Any23 opposition?24 (No response.)25 192 6/6/11 - FINANCE - BILL 110297, ETC.1

Councilwoman Tasco

There2 being none, the bill is carried -- the3 motion is carried.4 The Chair recognizes5 Councilwoman Blackwell to report out Bill6 110444.7

Councilwoman Blackwell

Thank8 you, Madam Chair. I move that Bill No.9 110444 be reported out of Committee with10 a favorable recommendation and also a11 recommendation for suspension of the12 rules so as to permit first reading at13 our next session of Council.14 (Duly seconded.)15

Councilwoman Tasco

It has16 been moved and properly seconded that17 Bill 110444 be reported out of Committee18 with a favorable recommendation and that19 the rules of Council be suspended so this20 bill can be heard at Council's next21 session.22 All in favor will say aye.23 (Aye.)24

Councilwoman Tasco

Any25 193 6/6/11 - FINANCE - BILL 110297, ETC.1 opposition?2 (No response.)3

Councilwoman Tasco

There4 being none, the motion is carried.5 We will adjourn this session to6 Thursday, June the 9th at 9:30 a.m.7 Thank you very much for your8 patience. Thank you all for testifying.9 (Committee on Finance adjourned10 at 4:25 p.m.)11 - - -12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 194 1 CERTIFICATE2 I HEREBY CERTIFY that the3 proceedings, evidence and objections are4 contained fully and accurately in the5 stenographic notes taken by me upon the6 foregoing matter on June 6, 2011, and that7 this is a true and correct transcript of same.8 9 10 11 12 --------------------13 MICHELE L. MURPHY14 RPR-Notary Public15 16 17 18 (The foregoing certification of this19 transcript does not apply to any reproduction20 of the same by any means, unless under the21 direct control and/or supervision of the22 certifying reporter.)23 24 25