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ZBA Hearing - May 12, 2021

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)May 12, 20214h 52m

to even be built in the first place. Parking again wasn't a concern the immediate and neither was

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green space as all those lots are owned by the city so they probably will remain green for the

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foreseeable future but that we would work with the community in the event that there was some

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alignment with the land bank the council office and the community as to what to do with those

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lots and that we could be supportive of it. I went back and forth with them. We also went

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We also went and doorknocked because there were only four people that showed up at the meeting, most of which were the zoning committee of the actual RCO.

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in doorknocked because there were only four people that showed up at the meeting, most of which were

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with the zone.

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So the client went because he lives in the neighborhood, and I believe there's 12 letters of support from your neighbors.

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We also did provide this to the RCO, and they were happy to see that there was some additional support for the project.

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We also made sure to get their way in as far as the exterior.

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They were pretty pleased with the, we kind of have a more traditional exterior and we're

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open to doing red brick or gray brick.

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The choice was red, but I'll have Scott bring up those, but just wanted the board to see

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the additional letters to support that we provided the RCO.

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The last thing before I let Scott do his thing is I wanted to bring up sort of the back and

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forth that we had just to memorialize and send to the RCO in writing that we were willing

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to work with them and make local hiring a priority.

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um making as long as you know they were qualified and some of these other things that are really

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outside of the scope of this project or even uh the boards um you know what the board gets involved

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in as far as the land bank and adjacent properties but we wanted to show a good faith effort that we

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were willing to do that and if they had recommendations for a lender they had said

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they did that we'd be willing to meet with them we just didn't want to preemptively put a deed

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restriction um this you know this soon in the process so um you know we kind of went back and

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forth with them. I spoke with Stephanie from the RCO today. She had sent everything to the board,

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but had not gotten back to us or heard back. So again, we are trying to make a good faith effort

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for some of these conditions, but a lot of them are kind of well outside the realm of this

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conversation, but just wanted to make note of that. I'm going to stop my screen and let Scott

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go through the plans briefly, and then happy to take any questions that the board may have.

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you see a scott murphy yes i do miss pritzker he's been promoted to panelists wonderful thanks

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so much good afternoon sir please identify yourself with the record spell your full name

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and i'll square you in

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hey how's it going guys can you guys hear me yep yes okay full name scott murphy s-c-o-t-t-m-u-r-p-h-y

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we're in the firm to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth

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i do thank you thank you miss pritchker mr murphy can you spell your last name

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m-u-r-p-h-y thank you scott will you just share your screen and just briefly go through the plans

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for the board absolutely yeah can you guys see the screen yeah yeah awesome okay so uh what

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you're looking at right now is the basement plan as rachel mentioned there are three dwelling units

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being proposed on the property. So as you can see here, two bedrooms, two baths in the basement.

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We have a ventilated trash closet in line with the laundry there and then a full walkout rear yard.

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So glass sliding doors to a sunken rear yard, which is all level with the basement. And then

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there would be a trash enclosure beneath staircase taking you up to the alleyway to get you out there.

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um as we move on part of the same unit here so you would enter in a common vestibule get into

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this unit and have a third room here for that unit on the first floor as well as another bathroom so

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big open kitchen and living bedroom and then a actually a little balcony there in the back

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overlooking that fucking basement courtyard so this is the first unit first floor basement

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three bedroom three bath moving up to the second floor you would come up the staircase again a

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small common vestibule here you would make a right into this smaller unit here with two bedrooms

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and one bathroom and again a balcony in the rear overlooking the sunken courtyard and then on the

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third floor moving all the way up your entrance is down on the previous level you would get up

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into an open kitchen living. And this would be a one bedroom and a one bath, one and a half

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with a covered balcony in the front. And again, the ventilated trash closets.

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So as Rachel mentioned as well, we do have a couple, sorry about that. We do have a couple

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different designs for the fronts. I'll show you an updated rendering in a minute. But basically

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this gets you a sense of the front facade, the rear facade, and then a 3D view of what we're

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talking about here with the face, the sunken basement courtyard here, and then some balconies

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above as far as our space, and a 3D view of that front bay there. And then this is the updated

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And then this is the updated rendering based on the feedback that we had from the community where, as Rachel mentioned, we'll have more traditional red brick and a white bay.

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rendering based on the feedback that we had from the...

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Thanks, Scott. Can you just go through quickly what the square footage of each of the units is?

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Sure. So you'll see the square footages on the floor plan. The first unit, unit A, is going to be 607 square feet. The second unit is 557 square feet. And the third unit is 621 square feet.

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Thank you.

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Rachel, anything else?

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no if the board doesn't have uh any questions um i'm gonna ask that now i didn't know if you

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were finished no i'm finished chairman okay thank you thank you mr murphy questions from the board

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no no anyone else would like to testify in this case if so please raise your hand

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there i have sloan folks with his hand raised i won't allow him to talk at this time

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After good noon again, Mr. Folks, you're still under oath. Please identify yourself.

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Good afternoon again, Chairman Chico and members of the ZBA board. Again, my name is Sloan Folks, S-L-O-A-N-E, Office of Councilman Maria Quinonez-Sanchez, room 508C.

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The applicant has met with the coordinating RCO and other local RCOs and has received a letter of support.

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The letter of support does have a number of requests in it that are unenforceable, that we know that are unenforceable at the ZBA level.

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But we do know that the applicant has made and will continue to make every effort to work with the community.

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and our office is committed to working with the applicant and the community

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specifically in regard to the land bank issues and any other issues that are out there.

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Given those things, our office has no opposition to this area's work.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Planning Commission.

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Good afternoon, Board.

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Peter Bernard for the Planning Commission.

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this property is indicated for single family residential in the comprehensive plan

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the area underwent a community remapping in 2017 and is undergoing a revised remapping

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both remappings identify the property as appropriate for single family the application

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represents an overuse of the property and there is no hardship for regularly shaped

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vacant land accordingly we recommend against granting the variance

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okay um chairman can i have my client adopt my testimony yes yes please thank you um do you see

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a michael murphy

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kind of about to speak thank you very much

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please identify yourself for the record display your full name and i'll swear you in good afternoon

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board. This is Michael Murphy. Last name spelled M-U-R-P-H-Y. We're affirmed to tell the truth,

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the whole truth, nothing but the truth. I affirm. Michael, can you just put your address on the

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record, please? Sure. My address is 2040 North 3rd Street, Philadelphia, PA 19122. Thank you.

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And Michael, have you heard my testimony that I gave in front of the board today?

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Yes.

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Do you accept it to be true and accurate and do you adopt it as your own?

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Yes.

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Thank you.

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Chairman, we conclude our case.

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Thank you.

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Am I...

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Sorry.

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Somebody else?

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Oh, sorry.

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It was just the applicant, Michael Murphy.

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I was wondering if I could make a brief statement.

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Please.

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Sure.

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I actually don't have a lot to add about the project, but I just wanted to thank the members of the board for the opportunity.

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I'm excited about the project, and I'll respectfully note that the overwhelming majority of the community supports the project as well.

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I've been a resident since 2018, and I think there's something very vibrant about the community, and there's a lot of potential.

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I live about a block from the job site, and back in April, I spent a few days walking and door knocking,

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explaining who I was, what the scope of the project was, and addressing a lot of community concerns.

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Overall, I found most of the members of the community, particularly along the Susquehanna Corridor,

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To be very supportive of development, especially when driven locally, people just kind of want it in a thoughtful and tasteful way that adds value to the neighborhood and a way that reinvests in the neighborhood, all while being sensitive to their concerns.

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I think it's something I'm uniquely positioned to do, and I'm excited at the opportunity.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Okay.

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MI 2021-000950-2210 North 3rd Street.

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two two one zero north third street my vote is yes my vote is yes my vote is yes my vote is yes

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My vote is yes.

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My vote is yes.

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my vote is yes thank you mr chairman we're going to go out of order

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calendar number is that correct i don't know i wasn't here for that so go ahead proceed

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okay um calendar number 0376 3871 jasper street the owners are melvin barberina moreno

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and maricel barberino i'm sorry i was here you're right i'm that's the 330 list okay

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no one was here for this but right we're calling

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there are no exhibits anyone here for 38 71 jasper street yes that's us right here

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okay um we have no exhibits is that correct no exhibits and it's the first listing

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would you please identify yourself ma'am spell your first and last name

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my name is emily barberina it's e-m-e-l-y barberina b-a-r-b-e-r-e-n-a do you swear or

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affirm to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth yes do you understand that we do

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not have any exhibits? Chair, may I ask a question? Please do. I'm sorry. Jason, could

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you promote our interpreter? Interpreter, if you could raise your hand, please. And

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come forward. So as necessary, you can interpret. And I'll give you a minute, because I have

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a question for emily yes to determine who or you are in relationship to the project oh i was here

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because um my dad is the owner and i was going to interpret for him but i'm yes so we have an

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interpreter are you there interpreter i am here i'm present if i would ask could you please

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ask the question, did the exhibits requested and the instructions sent get emailed to the attorney, Sharon Saleta, as well as the RCOZBA email box?

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Excuse me. Do we want to confirm first that the owner, whose name is Melvin Barbarina Moreno, is present?

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Yes, me.

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here okay and who is who is Maricel Barbarina my wife my it's my wife but she's not here because

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her mother her mother is sick and she's scared right now okay okay

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so whoever's going to speak do you swear to tell the whole truth and nothing about the truth

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yes thank you

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well who's speaking emily or uh mr um we're waiting for the interpreter are you here i am

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i am here yes okay also ma'am miss interpreter can you please identify yourself for the record

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please yes my name is devora silvera d-e-b-o-r-a-h s-i-l-v-e-r-a you swear for me to tell

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truth the whole truth nothing but the truth i do okay and on the applicant side is emily or

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melvin speaking melvin okay melvin so please spell your full name for the record

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my name is melvin barbarena moreno okay i'm sorry this is the interpreter can i interrupt and let

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him know that he can speak in Spanish so it's easier for him. Señor, si quiere hablar en

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My name to spell it is M-E-L-V-E-V-I-N, excuse me, and my last name is B-A-R-E-N-A.

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B-E-R-E-N-A.

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We swear to affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth.

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Jura decir la verdad y jura y afirma decir la verdad, toda la verdad y nada más que la verdad?

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No jura.

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I swear.

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Thank you.

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Tanya, we have a question for you, ma'am.

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You can ask the applicant.

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Tanya?

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Yes, Mr. Moreno was a zip an exhibit package email to the email addresses stated on your instruction sheet.

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Yes.

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Mr. Moreno was a zip and...

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Señor Valverena, ¿un paquete de pruebas fue mandado por correo electrónico a la dirección de correo electrónico que estaba incluida en su página de pruebas?

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Sí.

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Yes.

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okay our council does not have the exhibit would it be a way for you to

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state the email addresses that you sent it to nuestro abogado no tiene las pruebas nos podría

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decir por favor tal vez las direcciones de correo electrónico a las que usted mandó las pruebas

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You know, the person that I sent the proofs to the exhibits to was my applicant, the person

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that was helping me with the plans and all that he was supposed to send them but I do have my

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email open here with me and I could share my screen and show them to you if that would were

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possible it's the call of the chair uh chair if you want to verify that the exhibits was sent

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timely and that's your call yeah Sharon we're okay uh to approve that if we so true I I did

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not receive them if he could email the packet to me right now i can go through it to confirm that

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everything required is is included

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yes i could do it if you can give me an email sure it's s-u-l-e-t-a-z-b-a at gmail.com

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but if he's asking for the email that means you never send it it should be honest yes it does

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If I could interject a thought, Ms. Saleta, I believe we had a discussion early part of the week or last week where there was an error in your email address.

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um it doesn't sound as though from his reply that he emailed it to me at all and it's of course the

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board's call on whether to go forward but i would like him to email it to me now in any case so that

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i can review it to be sure that all the required documents in the interest of time i don't what

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what is somebody's going to speak just then who uh it was the interpreter i was just trying to let

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him know what's going on um in case you do not understand um el señor nada más que querían

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estaban discutiendo si lo había mandado no lo había mandado lo mandaron ahorita mismo

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parece que no hay pruebas de que ya lo habían mandado

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can you please repeat the address the email address so i could email right away

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first it's s like in sam u l e t a z b a at gmail.com okay señores zuleta s

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de Sandra

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U L de Larry

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T de Tomás

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ZB Grande

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arroba gmail.com

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i have sent it already did you receive it um it just came in yes

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i apologize for the delay um it appears that the applicant sent that uh differently so that's uh i

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i really do apologize for the delay okay there are there are many exhibits individual exhibits

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it's attached. Can you tell me if it includes the deed?

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