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ZBA Hearing - December 11, 2024

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Dec 11, 20247h 26m

Last name is Blake, B as in boy, L as in lake, A as in apple, K.

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as in kite, ee, as in eel.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth,

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nothing but the truth?

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Yes.

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Are you a neighbor?

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Yes, I am.

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Are you in favor of this project or against?

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I'm against.

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Thank you very much for taking the time to call.

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We appreciate it.

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Next hand, please.

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Clayton Brothers has been allowed to speak.

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And could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer?

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Clayton Brothers, C-L-A-Y-T-O-N-B-R-O-T-H-E-R-S.

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Where are we affirmed to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Are you a neighbor?

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I am a neighbor.

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I'm from the neighborhood.

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Yes, continue.

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Are you in favor of this project or against?

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I am in favor of the project.

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I am a like-minded from the community born and raised.

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I am an active realtor.

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I am also an investor.

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I have several properties that I do run out to lower-income families.

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I do have several multi-units surrounding that I run out to lower-income families.

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And I'm a person that's in the neighborhood, and I'm revitalizing the neighborhood so I can rent back to the neighborhood and not tease anybody out the neighborhood.

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So thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Does anyone have a question of Mr. Brothers?

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Yes, Mr. Brothers.

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Do you live on that block of Natrona Street?

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When I asked that question before, he said he was in the neighborhood.

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You have a question for me? I'm here.

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Yeah. Do you live on the 1800 block of Natrona?

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No, I don't live on the 1800 block of Natrona.

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I live on the 2100 block of Stanley Street, born and raised.

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Just answer the question.

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No.

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Okay.

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Yes.

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Thank you. And, uh, next hand, please.

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Calberry mentioned community concern has been allowed to speak.

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Could you please state your name and spell for a court stenographer?

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Never mind.

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Next hand, please.

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Can you hear me?

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Yes. Could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer?

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Yes. My name is Keith Smith.

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I'm not a resident of Natrona, but I live directly across Natrona.

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Hold on, hold on.

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Could you please spell your name for the stenographer?

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Keith Smith, K-E-I-T-H-S-M-I-T-H.

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You swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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And you're a neighbor?

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Yes, I am a neighbor.

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I live on Euclid Street, directly across from Natrona Street.

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I know many residents on Natrona Street.

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All right, listen to me.

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Are you for or against this crowd?

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Thank you very much for taking the time to call us. We appreciate it. Is there anyone else in the audience?

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Yes, Chair. I have six hands remaining. Strawberry Mansion Community Concerning has been allowed to speak.

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Okay. Hi, could you please state your name and spell for the court sonographer?

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Hi, good afternoon. My name is Bonita Cummings. B as in boy, O-N-I-T-A, C-U-M-M-I-N-G-S.

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you swear or affirm you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the

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truth i do i was in attendance wait a minute no no no listen to me listen to me listen to me

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are you in favor of this project or against opposed thank you very much we got quite a few

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other hands i have to get ahead of the of the affected rco she's one of the she's one of the

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rcos i i think i know who she is i think i know miss cummings do you do you have anything you

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want to add but we just got to get to quite a few other people i just wanted to add that again there

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were three um meetings going on for that particular uh meeting many of the people voting

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were people voting from as far away as 29th and Diamond.

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There was some, even in my own process,

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confusion around the vote

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because it was difficult to really hone in

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on the people directly affected,

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which were the Natrona Street residents.

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There were at least,

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there was a household with three of our seniors in it

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There was a household with three of our seniors in it that were voting from separate homes who may or may not have been counted, and that would increase that number.

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that were voting from separate homes.

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So it really may not have only been four.

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So it's a block that did come out to oppose the position, and many of the votes came from far away.

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Those 12 votes are not from people who are directly affected within that 250 feet of that particular address.

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There were three locations going on.

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So, Mrs. Cummings, I hear what the lawyer said.

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Okay, I just wanted to add that.

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I know.

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I know.

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I think that's important to know who remained on the call.

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I understand, but I think what he's saying is you just can't figure out who was there and who was not there, although I know all the mailings.

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Is there anything else you want to add?

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no i think it's all pretty much been said thank you and thank you for taking the time to call we

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appreciate next hand please timothy young has been allowed to speak hi could you please state

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your name and spell for the stenographer timothy young please unmute yourself

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could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer

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Timothy Young, T-I-M-O-T-H-Y-Y-O-U-N-G.

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Swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth.

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I do.

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Are you a neighbor?

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Yes, I am.

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Are you for this project or against?

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I'm for it.

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Thank you very much for calling.

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We appreciate it.

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Next hand, please.

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Bria Rome has been allowed to speak.

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Hi, could you please state your name and spell for the court stenographer?

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Bria Rohn, B-R-I-A-R-H-O-N-E.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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Yes.

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Are you a neighbor?

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Yes.

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Are you for or against this project?

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Four.

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Thank you very much for taking the time to call us. We appreciate it. Next hand, please.

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Chair, I currently have four hands remaining.

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Cush Pettaway has been allowed to speak.

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Hi, could you please state your name and spell for the court stenographer?

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Hi, I'm Cush Pettaway, C-U-S-H-P-E-T-T-I-W-A-Y.

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Where or firm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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Yes.

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Are you in favor of this project or against?

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I'm in favor.

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All right, and you're a neighbor?

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Yes. I actually own the property that recently, well, a year ago, burnt down 1813 North North Carolina Street.

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Thank you very much. We appreciate you taking time to calls. Next hand, please.

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Erica Jones has been allowed to speak.

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Could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer?

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Good afternoon. My name is Erica Jones, E-R-I-K-A. Last name Jones, J-O-N-E-S.

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You swear or firm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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Are you a neighbor?

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Yes, I am.

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Are you in favor of this

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prosecutor or against?

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I'm in favor.

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Thank you very much for taking the time to call us.

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We appreciate it. Next hand, please.

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Stephanie Reynolds has been

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allowed to speak.

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Hi, could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer?

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Never mind, Chair.

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Ken Ellis has been allowed to speak.

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Hi, could you please state your name

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and spell for the stenographer?

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can ellis please unmute yourself

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next hand please hello hi could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer

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my name is kenneth ellis k-e-n-n-e-t-h last name ellis e-l-l-i-s and i'm in favor of this project

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all right do you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth

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yes and your neighbor yes all right next hand please sure this is our last hand stephanie

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has been allowed to speak i could you please state your name and spell for the court sonographer

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hi my name is stephanie reynolds that's s-t-e-p-h-a-n-i-e-r-e-y-n-o-l-d-s

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we're a firm to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth yes um are you a neighbor

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i'm a community member are you for or against this project i'm for the project

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thank you very much for taking the time to close we appreciate it planning commission

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Thank you, Chair Bergman, and good afternoon. David Fecto with the City Planning Commission.

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thank you chair bergman and good afternoon david effecto with the city

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Chairman and board members, the comprehensive plan recommends no change to the RSA-5 residential

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single-family zoning at this location. The City changed the zoning maps in this neighborhood in

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2014 in accord with recommendations in the comprehensive plan. At that time, this property

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had been zoned single-family since 1967. In 1967, the zoning changed from R9, today's RM1,

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residential multifamily, to RSA5. This property received a use variance and use permit for three

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dwelling units in 1956. What we don't know is how long this property has been vacant.

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As the board knows, after three years of vacancy, a previously approved variance may expire. We are

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aware of other legally non-conforming duplexes and triplexes on this block face dating to the

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1950s. However, the majority of the homes on this block face remain single-family. The City Planning

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Commission recommends that the board deny the proposed use variance for two dwelling units.

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So, Mr. Toppin, Mr. Masters, there's been a lot, obviously, a lot of testimony today relative to

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this case. I'm going to take this to executive session next Wednesday. We will vote on it at

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930 a.m. Okay. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. Thank you both for Mr. Masters. Please stay on.

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Okay, I know I want to apologize to the board that the exhibit letter had 3122. It was an identical letter, but apparently, so I apologize. I understand. Thank you very much. Mr.

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Okay. So, MI 2024-001-519-2128, Ridge Avenue. Mr. Masters is the attorney. Just state your name for the record, please.

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Steve Masters, S-T-E-V-E-M-A-S-T-E-R-S.

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Do you identify your client and the relationship to the product?

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Yes, my client is Kikmak, LLC, K-I-K-I-M-A-C, and the principal is George Camu, G-E-O-R-P-E-K-A-M-A-U.

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We have a letter of support from Brewerytown, Sharswood, seven in support for abstain. Do you stipulate to the reading of the refusal and agree with this accuracy?

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Yes, I do. But I do want to do it. I will explain a bit about.

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Oh, sure. Sure. Why don't you proceed?

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all right uh screen get onto my screen

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and all right we're going to start with

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all right good afternoon now members of the board um steve masters for the applicant um

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George Camo doing business as KICMAC LLC. So what we have today before you is a proposed

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mixed-use project. First, there was a demolition. This is the property as it used to exist.

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It was considerably bladed. It has been demolished. And what's proposed is to construct a new

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structure with the first floor being commercial and then the upper floors being residential

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apartment units. This would be a buy-write project if it was four units above the commercial

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because it's a mixed-use zoning. But we are proposing six units, and I'll explain why

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shortly. The only refusal is for the fifth and the sixth units. If the mixed income bonuses

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applied to this property, we also would be by right even for the six units because of the

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density bonus, because we are proposing that one of these six units will be low income,

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affordable for a five-year period of time. But the mixed income bonuses don't apply to this portion

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of North Philadelphia, so we're back to asking you for some variances.

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Like I said, one of the six units will be designated as low-income affordable. We will

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be recording an affordable covenant with the deed to that end and in order to economically create

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this low-income affordable unit and what we are describing as naturally occurring

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affordable housing for the rest of the five units because

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affordable housing for the rest of the five units, because this location, as you'll see,

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