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Committee Hearing, June 5, 2001

Philadelphia City Council Committee HearingsJun 5, 2001

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Councilman Dicicco

Thank you. And, again, I apologize for the length of this hearing. All the opponents left. If you wear 'em down, sometimes it works. Oh, you did testify, I'm sorry. Charlie, do you wish to speak? You spoke as well. You guys talk fast. 152 6/5/01 - STREETS & SERVICES - 010393 Okay, thank you for your testimony. And, again, I apologize for the length of these hearings.

Ms. Mccaw

No problem, thank you.

Councilman Dicicco

Next bill, please.

The Clerk

Bill No. 010393, an ordinance granting permission to Third Wire Incorporated, its successors and assigns to construct, maintain and operate, replace and remove a telecommunications system along, in, and under the public rights-of-way and City streets and/or to place such telecommunications system within the existing facilities owned by Verizon-PA Incorporated, PECO Energy Company, Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority, CSX Corporation, Norfolk Southern Corporation, Consolidated Rail Corporation, or other entities holding a grant pursuant to other City ordinances, all under certain terms and conditions.

Ms. Sen

Again, Chairman and members of the committee, my name is Nancy Sen and I'm an engineering supervisor for the Streets Department, and I'm here to testify on Bill No. 010393 on behalf of the Department. 153 6/5/01 - STREETS & SERVICES - 010393 This bill authorizes Third Wire to install underground fiber optic conduit within the public right-of-way, including all appropriate terms and conditions. The purpose of this request is to construct a fiber optic network in the Center City area and the University City area, linking primarily the carrier hotels at 401 North Broad Street and 2401 Locust Street. The network will consist of four loops: a northern loop, a northern loop A, a southern loop, and a south loop A. This network will consist of pulling through fiber and conduit owned by SEPTA, Verizon, and PECO Energy. The new conduit indicated on the route will be in the SEPTA subway surface tunnel in the vicinity of City Hall. Portions of the proposed route will also be pulled through existing conduit attached to four bridges. Third Wire is aware of the proposed South Street bridge reconstruction in the near future and the associated facility relocation costs that the company could bear. The Department of Streets has reviewed the proposed route and given preliminary approval. Thank you.

Councilman Dicicco

Any questions for 154 6/5/01 - STREETS & SERVICES - 010234, 397 this witness? (No questions.)

Councilman Dicicco

Anyone here who wishes to testify? If you do, please approach the witness table. (No other witnesses on this bill.)

Councilman Dicicco

The next bill, please.

The Clerk

Bill No. 010234, an ordinance granting permission to WXIII/PHL Real Estate Limited Partnership, its successors and assigns to construct maintain and operate, replace and remove ductbanks for certain telecommunications uses under and in the public rights-of-way and City streets; all under certain terms and conditions. And Bill No. 010397, an ordinance 18 granting permission to WXII/PHL Real Estate Limited Partnership, c/o Archon Group, LP, its successors and assigns to construct, maintain and operate, replace and remove ductbanks for certain telecommunications uses under and in the public rights-of-way and City streets, all under certain terms and conditions.

Mr. Kelsen

Good afternoon, 155 6/5/01 - STREETS & SERVICES - 010234, 397 Mr. Chairman. Peter Kelsen, K-E-L-S-E-N, for Archon Group. I would like to start off by thanking you for your consideration. It has been an exciting day.

Councilman Dicicco

Be here Thursday morning if you want to see excitement.

Mr. Kelsen

I may pass on that one. Let me start off by saying that we are withdrawing Bill No. 010234 and proceeding with Bill 11 No. 010397 due to some route changes. And for simplicity, we will only go with 397. Nancy, do you want to go through the rap?

Ms. Sen

Again, my name is Nancy Sen, engineering supervisor for the Streets Department, and I'm here to testify on Bill No. 010397. This bill grants permission to WXIII/PHL Real Estate Limited Partnership to install a new fiber optics underground raceway structure to achieve three purposes: service the needs of tenants by providing a convenient primary and diverse entrance way which bypasses the bridge structures in the area and is located nearby existing backbone routes in the area; to link their 156 6/5/01 - STREETS & SERVICES - 010234, 397 property at 440 North Broad Street under development to become a telecom e-commerce site to two existing telecom hotels in the area, 401 North Broad and 1309 Noble Street; and, thirdly, to provide strategic manholes for a future link between their property at 440 North Broad and a similar proposed ductbank entrance way for the Networks Building at 1500 Spring Garden Street described in a previous bill 10 before Council, 010182. The Streets Department has reviewed the proposed plans for this project. The route to these buildings -- this building was coordinated to minimize excavation in the right-of-way while allowing an economical link for the many companies eager to make connections to the telecom pop sites concentrated in this area. It is expected that multi-duct installation will meet the demands of the growing telecommunications sector in the City. Therefore, the Streets Department has no objection to the passage of the bill. Thank you.

Mr. Kelsen

Thank you. Mr. Chairman, we thank the committee for its consideration. We believe that the proposed 157 6/5/01 - STREETS & SERVICES - 010234, 397 ordinance will reduce the impact on the public ways. We've designed this to as to have minimal -- and I repeat, minimal -- impact on the public right-of-way. Most of the build is going to be affixed to existing bridge structures. We've coordinated our process with the Streets Department and other telecommunications providers. We think this is a tremendous opportunity for the City to enhance its telecommunications capability. And we thank you. We would also ask for a suspension of the rules and abbreviated consideration of the ordinance.

Councilman Dicicco

Thank you.

Mr. Kelsen

Thank you.

Councilman Dicicco

Since there's no 18 one else here but me, I have no further questions. And I want to apologize to you and clients as well for the time it took to get through these hearings today.

Mr. Kelsen

No apology needed. Thank you.

Ms. Sen

Thank you. And being the last hearing of the 158 6/5/01 - STREETS & SERVICES - 010234, 397 season, enjoy and see you in September.

Councilman Dicicco

You're welcome to come Thursday morning at 9:15 as well.

Ms. Sen

I think I'll listen to it on my phone in the office.

Councilman Dicicco

Okay, thank you. And thank you, gentlemen, thank you. We will take a brief three-minute recess. I want to go over some of the legalities of what I need to do next to continue this hearing. Thank you. (Break taken.) - - - (Proceedings resume.)

Councilman Dicicco

This concludes the public hearing on the Committee of Streets and Services. We will continue -- the public meeting is recessed until Thursday, June 7, at 9:15 a.m. Thank you for your attention. Thank you. (Adjourned 5:15 p.m.) 159 C E R T I F I C A T E I HEREBY CERTIFY that the foregoing proceedings of the Council of the City of Philadelphia of Tuesday, June 5, 2001, were reported fully and accurately by me, and that this is a correct transcript of same. RE: COUNCIL COMMITTEE ON STREETS AND SERVICES BILL NO.'S 000658, 010065, 010066, 010128, 010130, 010230, 010234, 010267, 010268, 010336, 010339, 010342, 010343, 010344, 010345, 010346, 010350, 010370, 010375, 010376, 010377, 010379, 010380, 010381, 010383, 010384, 010385, 010386, 010387, 010388, 010389, 010390, 010391, 010395, 010396, 010397, 010398, 010399, 010400 __________________________________, JOSEPHINE CARDILLO, Registered Professional Reporter