It's way over time. COMMISSIONER ALI: So 13 percent --
I'm sorry. COMMISSIONER ALI: Thirteen percent of the young people who received services through juvenile justice actually recidivated. We have not been able to -- don't have the bandwidth to determine what programs they received and then recidivated. So what we have done is issued an RFP because we need some support in that. We have a phenomenal division in performance management technology, but we had to build some additional capacity. And so you will begin to see, once we select that provider, some additional reports in terms of outcomes, because we want to make sure that what we are paying for works.
So possibly. We have one more colleague in the queue for this round.
So I'll -- please let me acknowledge Councilmember Landau for your last question. And then Councilmember Bass, I'll circle back to you. You'll be our last member for today. Okay.
This is a very quick one for the Office of Education. What data are we using to select the neighborhoods or schools which are included in the expansion of Extended Day/Extended Year?
Again, Dr. Debora Carrera, chief education officer. Thank you, Council Woman -- Councilmember Landau. What we're doing is we are -- we're actually working closely with the school district, the Office of Children and Families. We are -- this is the pilot year. We have a consultant that has been really working with us to look at all kinds of data, to look at socioeconomic status, demographic data, neighborhood, gun violence, just looking at a myriad of data, and we've been coming up with different scenarios of schools that could qualify in -- with those datas -- with that data set. But we are working very closely, again, with the school district, the Office of Children and Families to select -- and charter schools to select the 10 and the 5 for the next round.
Thank you. Thank you, Councilmember Landau. Councilmember Bass, would you like to be recognized?
Yes. I -- just, you know, one last question, and that was -- Commissioner, one of the things you had mentioned earlier that I've lost my train of thought on, and that you said you were going to address was, how do -- how do we pay less and get more? And you said you wanted to answer that. COMMISSIONER ALI: And what I wanted to do in that is, you know, clarify, you know, the narrative. I know when Vanessa was commissioner at the time, in terms of the narrative around the CUA system would be less expensive. That was inaccurate. And we put that on the record previously. We want to make sure that we have qualified staff to work with our most vulnerable population. And so we want to make sure that they are paid appropriately. We also make sure that whatever the needs of the community, that they also have the discretionary funds in order to meet the ever- changing needs, you know, of the community. And so I just wanted to double down on that comment in terms of it being less. As our CFO Perese testified to, the CUA system is $114 million in order to provide quality services to our most vulnerable young people who have been abused and neglected.
And could I just -- a point a clarification, Councilwoman. Vanessa was not the commissioner when that narrative was put forward. COMMISSIONER ALI: Absolutely. You clarified.
I was going to say -- COMMISSIONER ALI: She clarified.
And I probably was the one who clarified -- COMMISSIONER ALI: Yes.
-- that it was never really meant to be a cost-saving measure. It really was about trying to increase quality and to bring the services to the community where we hoped that people would avail themselves of those services. And so it was about the community based delivery of services.
Thank you. I was going to say, was there another Vanessa who was the commissioner? COMMISSIONER ALI: No, I said “clarified.” So she clarified --
A different Vanessa. COMMISSIONER ALI: -- clarified that on the record.
Yeah. No, I remember it was Ms. Ambrose. But thank you so much for being here today. Thank you. COMMISSIONER ALI: Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you, Councilmember Bass and thank you to all of the members who offered a very poignant question this afternoon. We want to, again, thank the Department of Human Services, Mayor's Office of Education and all of the offices that are represented here for your testimony, for your partnership, and for the continued collaboration. We certainly appreciate each and every one of you.
This concludes our budget hearing for the day. The Chair recognizes Councilmember Katherine Gilmore- Richardson for a motion that the public hearing and meeting on the bills and resolutions before the committee today stand in recess until Wednesday, April 2nd, 2025, at 10:00 a.m. All those in favor, please signify by saying aye.
It has been moved and properly seconded that the public hearing and meeting on the bills and resolution before the committee today stand in recess until Wednesday, April 2nd, 2025 at 10:00 a.m. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Those opposed? The ayes have it. And this hearing stays in recess until April 2nd, Tuesday -- no, Wednesday at 10:00 a.m. Thank you very much. (Public hearing and meeting concluded at 4:00 p.m.) C E R T I F I C A T I O N I hereby certify that the proceedings and evidence are contained fully and accurately in the notes taken by me of the above case, and this copy is a correct transcript of the same. _______________ Samanda J. Rios