been able to start he got a permit for indoor demolition so he was able to start clearing
through he replaced windows this is kind of some of the before etc etc this is some of the layout
um my understanding is that the initial permit that was submitted to l and i didn't include any
any plans he hadn't invested yet on an architect to have plans and my understanding was that l
and i didn't ask that and didn't ask for them but that it was you know the denied and i know that
when we uh that initial april 25th appeal um there i don't know that there were plans there
there were plans that were um drafted and presented at the rco meeting but i i see that
they weren't included in this packet i can if you want to see share with you um and then submit it
if you'd allow that a pdf i have a pdf of the plan sorry so so i think what we need to do is we need
to see what you're going to do like that like a drawing with you right now like drawings what
it's going to look like we you know for both floors right so yes that with you i do um let me
see if can you share this can you see this tab we see it maybe you can blow it up just a little bit
okay okay so you can see the basement there's no living space in the basement it's just storage
um and here's the first that's the first floor that you're looking at and then the second floor
is to the right um so these plans which were the ones presented at the rco have it set up as like
A TWO-BEDROOM ON EACH LEVEL.
SO THAT FIRST FLOOR, THERE'S A KITCHEN IN WHAT YOU'RE CALLING COMMON
space there's like not a living room or what is what is that yes it's a common space together so
a kitchen with um you know a common space all all in one okay
um you know a common space all all in one okay and then a washer dryer with two bedrooms all
which have their own windows and then a bathroom okay um questions from the board
uh trash storage what's the plan what's the plan for trash
so in the back there's a storage um area in the back of the building and that's where the trash
cans will be and so there's it sorry go ahead no go ahead and there's which i don't think that you
can it just says storage unit i don't have a picture of but it's oh well i guess from the
very front of the building you could it's basically the back on taconi street so there's storage
They'll store these in that what says storage unit is that's a garage that's attached to it.
Currently, it's a garage. Yeah. And my understanding is there's a separate permit that was submitted to L&I that's still pending to bring into compliance that area, because apparently that's not really a garage.
It's so there's some changes that will need to be made to bring that into compliance.
Again, more of the investments that have to be made.
But the plan, again, is back in what you saw on that first page that had kind of like a garage towards the end would look like a garage.
That's the storage area. And it will be just a smaller storage area back there to fit all the trash cans.
And there's a deck off of the second floor.
so this will this is part of the of that other permit that is still pending but the idea is just
to be able to have stairs from outside so instead of that other area that you could see in that
initial picture on the back which kind of had like a full deck area on top of that storage
area beneath this will just be the smaller storage underneath some stairs this is if we get the
approval that's pending, which I think is contingent on us getting the variance. But
then they would build the stairs to be able to go up independently into the second floor. So
there'll be a small area so that it's, you know, it's not like a big deck, but just an area so
that you have a landing, so to speak, up there, which is back there.
other questions so when you say storage unit you mean we have a picture of do you have a photo of
it yeah just let me see if from the street it looks like a garage right and that's the that's
part of what is subject to that separate pending permit application which is to bring it into
comply here let me see if we can see let me blow this up
so from this picture i think you can you can see what looks like like a deck on the top and what
looks like a garage which again these need to be addressed but that's part of that separate
application. And I will, if once I can bring in my client in to testify, he can also explain more
of the details of what's pending there, but there's not going to be that top full
sort of deck that appears to be there. And this isn't going to be, you know, sticking out here
in that way, but it'll be storage that will be compliant storage back there underneath the
planned stairs is there a curb cut there too i cannot answer that curb cut shows up on the atlas
i mean on the google on google earth it shows there's a curb cut right in front of the garage
door i'd have to yeah i'd have to defer that maybe to my client if he can why don't you bring
your client on. Yes. So he's Dr. Alexander Schlachterman. He should be here if he could
raise his hand to join in. Thanks for being rejoined as a panel shortly, Counselor.
Thank you. I understood. Yeah, I apologize. I know he's currently working at the hospital and
he's trying to remain as available as he can. Hi, everyone. Can you see me?
We can. Yeah, sure. Oh, very good. Good. Could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer?
Yes. Hi, my name is Dr. Alexander Schlockterman, A-L-E-X-A-N-D-E-R, last name Schlockterman, S-C-H-L-A-C-H-T-E-R-M-A-N-E-R.
Last name Schlockterman, S-C-H-L-A-C-H-T-E-R-M-A-N.
Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?
Yes, I do.
Counsel?
Counsel, could you?
Hi, Dr. Schlockterman.
Have you heard the testimony that I have provided up to now?
I have, and I attest that it is true, and I agree to it.
I was going to ask if you could attest that it's correct and accurate, and do you adopt it as your own?
Thank you.
Are you going to ask them about their background?
Can you share with the board more information about the curb cut and about what looks like a garage currently?
Yes, I can.
Thank you.
So in that area, it had previously been used as a garage space with a garage door and the curb cut for cars to enter and exit that area.
We found upon investigation of the property that this was not legally obtained.
And so we are not planning to use it as a garage space, but rather maintain it as a storage space.
we've removed the first three feet which were again not in compliance that's that overhang roof
that came with the demo permit and the and the facade corrections that we did as well and so at
this time there is access to the back of the building through those doorways and as I said
it's not being used or planned to be used as a garage okay questions from the board
okay i'm still on the storage unit thing um so there's is there a walkway uh something there
there was talk of putting stairs there to make an entrance for the second floor is that what
you're planning to do there or yes ma'am so the egress from the second floor um currently the
space that we're calling storage will be maintained with the walls. The roof was in
disrepair, and so that's been removed. And we currently have access to the second floor.
And again, that will be future permit provided that we're able to move forward with the duplex
so that we'll be able to have an egress from the second floor down to the street and then
turning along the side of the building and right at the back door, which is, as you can see that
overhang in the previous garage space, that's the access to the back door. So that area will be
accessed so that there's an addition of steps. It's not a building, but it does warrant a permit
for an addition to be built for those steps, which will be covered stairs coming from the second
floor down to the street giving entrance and exit for the second floor. All right so you're going to
have then two means of ingress and egress to the second floor is that what I'm hearing? Currently
it will be one means from to the second floor through the through the back staircase there
will be windows in each bedroom the only entrant the only other exit or entrance to the building
will be from the front of the building to the first floor so each apartment will have an egress
with windows. All right. And then this overhang, is that an awning? It used to be. It has been
removed when we found that it was not within regulation or it wasn't allowed, basically. I
don't know that the previous owners had installed these things. That was all removed once we found
that it was not allowed. And are you still going to have that garage door there or are you going
to put something else there? I would put doors, but not garage door. And yeah, it'll be much
easier to access doors, opening, closing to move the trash cans in and out. Okay. And then my only
other question, and, you know, again, why two bedrooms? Yeah. So as I, I'm sorry, I go ahead.
I mean, the living, the actual living space is a little small, and it looks like the bedrooms are
take up most of the um the area for the unit so um and and so in thinking of the plan the for
the floor plan as to whether this be you know a one bedroom on each floor versus two bedroom uh
it is within code to have larger um these these rooms are uh i believe the the measurements on that
plan that Ms. Acosta brought up, but they are within code and they were at least 10 by 12,
I believe, bedrooms with enough floor space to have, oh, there we go.
So the measurements may be on there, may not. But these are the, they're actually pretty good sized bedrooms. I agree that they could be bigger and you could have huge rooms.
The measurements may be on there, may not, but these are the,
I think you're referring to the actual living space, which you're calling a common space where the common space kitchen and the living room is like.
yeah so pretty small compared to uh the space that you have for the um for these yeah so so i i grew
up in a house where the common space was really the space where family hung out and uh and enjoyed
company uh and really it with the with the modern view of the kitchen connected to the living space
it cuts out those unnecessary rooms that aren't used like a dining room.
And these, so in my understanding and the way that I feel that this would be a nice setup
was that you could actually have a big open area like we have here for the living space
and easy access to stay connected to mom or dad, whoever's doing dinner.
And so that was my thought process in this open forum.
all right and it's also easier for keeping an eye on kids which I have too and I think that
it's tough if you want to be with them I don't have I don't have an issue with
you having an open I think they call it open concept there I think that the open concept
is in a very small space as compared to the space that you have for the two bedrooms and
if you had just one bedroom you'd have more space for this common area if you will just my
just my two cents here any other questions i agree questions or comments from our attorney
ryan mcsherry uh good afternoon uh i just wanted to note that i guess the the requested variance if
granted by the board today would only apply to i guess the property as it currently stands it
would not apply uh the use variance would not apply to any future additions to the property
the applicant would need to get a refusal and then come back to the board to essentially
extend the variance to those uh to any additions to the property
okay questions or comments from the audience or the first audience
yeah i do not see any hands raised hi planning commission amy boy with the planning commission
amyboid do you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth i do please
proceed the comprehensive plan recommends no change to the rsa 5 residential single family
zoning at this location the city rezoned this neighborhood in 1971 and the council supported
map change there are no unique physical conditions or circumstances of this property that would
prevent it from being used in strict conformity with the zoning code this is a primary single
family block face. The planning commission recommends that the board deny the proposed
use variance for two dwelling units. So counsel, I'm going to hold this case and we're going to
vote on it on in two weeks on Wednesday at 2 p.m. We're going to go to executive session and just
trying to iron out some of the things that we've heard today and figure out where we stand with
this. Okay. Okay. Can I add one? I know that wasn't included, but I was looking at Atlas.
If I may add that it is an RSA five area, but there are right across the street directly in front and catty corner on both of them and behind multiple CMX twos that are half, you know, multiple units allowed.
So it would be disruptive to the neighborhood.
Well, that's part of the record.
Your comments will be part of the record.
OK, so two weeks on Wednesday at 2 p.m.
We will vote.
OK, thank you very much.
Thank you.
Is there anyone left from this morning whose case has not been called?
I do not see any hands, Mr. Chair.
Okay, so here we go with the afternoon session.
Good afternoon, everyone.
My name is Bill Bergman, and I will be chairing this meeting of the Zoning Board of Adjustment.
With me is our Vice Chair, Tanetta Graham.
Present, Mr. Chairman.
Our Board Secretary, Charlotte L. Gaston.
Present, Mr. Chairman.
Our Board Member, Michael Johns.
Present, Mr. Chairman.
And our Board Member, Ryan McAdams.
Present, Mr. Chairman.
Also here is our attorney, Ryan McSherry, and today we also have with us, let me get her name here, Maria Como, who was a third-year Villanova student who's been helping out with our attorney's house today, right?
And also here is Ian Haggerty and our border administrator, Lakeisha Dandy.
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