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ZBA Hearing - December 3, 2025

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Dec 3, 20257h 18m

yes it does okay and board you're seeing the copy of the deed as well you would

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receive that prior to right now but just want to make sure that the board can see

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it we do okay and George did you hear the testimony that I offered today to

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the board yes and do you adopt that do you recognize that testimony be true

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and correct yes and do you adopt that testimony as though you would given it

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yourself yeah and you also heard and you also heard the testimony offered by Ian

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Smith yes and would you recognize that to be true and correct yes I do and

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would you adopt Ian's testimony as though given yourself yes thank you I

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I have nothing further for Mr. Groves. I just wanted to show two more photos to the board of the orange poster, informing everyone of today's hearing that are posted at two different spots at the building.

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And this is photo one on a fence that is street facing. And this is photo two of one that is by the front door of the building.

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Um, and with that, I would ask, uh, if the board has any further questions, uh, uh, the

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board has any questions relative to the housing units.

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Um, is there any way that you can pull up a closeup of what one of the units would look

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like?

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That's kind of hard to see.

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Um, and I guess the question I'm asking is, um, is there like interior trash storage in

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each unit or how is the trash managed in the block building the trash collection

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would probably that would probably be a question for George Groves but I would

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think it would be a private hauler given a project of this size and scale so

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these are your second floor the green is a two-bedroom the blue is a one-bedroom

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and I will be soon.

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A dumpster location or

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how is move-in, move-out

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going to take place

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or where are the dumpsters?

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Mr. Johns?

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Yes.

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There's going to be multiple

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dumpsters there because that is a very

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big project.

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There's going to be

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24-hour a day

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building maintenance there

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to handle move-ins,

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move-outs.

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And whatever else might come down that line at that.

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Okay.

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But you haven't identified locations for these dumpsters?

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Well.

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No, we haven't identified them yet because we're locating the electric power

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has to be identified where it's going to go,

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and then the dumpsters cannot be anywhere near that.

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So DECO hasn't identified where they're going to put their stuff yet.

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This is the general site view. This is the landscaping site view, but this is the footprint of the building here.

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So, like Mr. Grove said, once PICO identifies where the electric service goes, then the dumpsters would go relative to that.

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But there would be dumpsters, there would be a private hauler, again, because it's an 80 something unit residence.

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Parking that's shown on here, although we're not parking is not part of this meeting, theoretically.

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Parking is not part of this meeting, theoretically.

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Is parking for the residential?

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Are there going to be designated parking spaces for the residential units, or how will the parking work?

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Let me scroll down to another site map here.

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Let's scroll up to another site map before anybody offers.

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But hold on.

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Here's your ground floor plan.

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And so, and George, my understanding is that these are 137 here, and there are additional here.

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These are for the residences, and these are for the commercial.

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Mr. Johns, the parking, the whole property consists of like eight acres.

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So the development of parking where Ian suggested on the east side of the building,

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but we have another four acres of land that we're going to convert to parking to.

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So this right here, which I'm kind of mousing over here, would be the residential parking spaces.

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Back here would be the commercial parking spaces.

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um but yeah as as my client just stated there are there's a lot of space at the parcel

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for the building of parking should uh additional be needed

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well it looks like a good adaptive reuse for this building overall looks like a pretty good project

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oh yeah thank you

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questions um questions from our attorney not at this time mr chair um questions from um

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the audience coordinating rcos

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i see any hands raised mr chair council member representative no hands anyone else

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again no heads Mr. Chair

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Planning Commission

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Amy Boyd with the Planning Commission

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the comprehensive plan recommends no change in zoning

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at this location from the existing

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I-2 medium industrial

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this property was

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previously the Sterling Paper Factory

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and is listed on the Register of Historic Places

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the Riverwards District Plan

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recommendation 39 is to

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recognize significant places

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of industrial resources

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specifically the paper factory.

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The district plan recommendation 13 is to reposition obsolete industrial sites for new users.

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The Planning Commission recommends that the board grant their requested variance for multifamily.

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Hillary, we want to say multifamily, 80 units on the second and third floor?

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That's exactly what's on the refusal, Mr. Chair.

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That will be, if that is approved, that will be the service department.

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MI 2024-004-050-2155, Caster Avenue, I vote yes, multiple family units only, right?

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We don't need a provisor for that because that is what is on the refusal.

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The refusal is very specific.

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MI 2024-004-050-2155, Caster Avenue, T248-3246, I vote yes.

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Michael Johns, my vote is yes.

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Cheryl Guest, and my vote is yes.

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Tanetta Graham, my vote is yes.

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Ryan McAdams, my vote is yes.

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I win, my vote is yes.

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Thank you, counsel.

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Thank you, board.

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Thank you, members of the board.

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I have nothing further.

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All right.

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All right.

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Number four, MI 2024-007-588-588-4361-63, North 9th Street.

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Glenn Ross is the attorney.

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letter of non-opposition from esperanza esperanza housing and economic development

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petition of support signed by 23 neighbors

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I'm back in as a panelist now, sir.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Ross, if you're still available, please unmute.

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Also, if you are still available, please.

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Wait till it be sworn in.

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Do we see him?

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Can you hear me now?

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Hi, Mr. Ross.

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Can you hear me now?

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I can, most certainly.

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Could you please state your name and then spell it for the stenographer?

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Certainly.

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um my name is glenn ross and it's spelled g-l-e-n-n-r-o-s-s and i represent the hunting

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acquisitions llc with reference to you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth and

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nothing but the truth sir i do okay our our vice chair has a few questions for you

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good evening Mr. Ross

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have you submitted your

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documents and exhibits five days in advance

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before this hearing yes

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and do you waive the reading of the

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refusal and stipulate to its accuracy

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yes

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okay thank you you can share your screen and begin

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your case say again

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I'm sorry

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you can start your case

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share your screen with your computer please

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so I'm not

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very technical. What else do I need to start my video? Should I do that? Yeah, that's correct.

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Hi, Mr. Ross. This is Ian Hegarty, Executive Director. You're going to have to start your

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video and then you should see a green button at the bottom of your screen that says the word

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share and with an arrow pointing up. You're going to have to have your documents already open

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in another program that's not Zoom. And then you're going to need to click that green button

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and then you're going to need to find those documents

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so that the board can see them.

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Mr. Ross, could you rotate your computer to your screen?

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Because we're sort of seeing you upside down.

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That way or that way?

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Keep going. Keep going that way. Keep going.

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I think you're getting close.

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is that okay

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well

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you're a little crooked

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no I wouldn't say that

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well

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you know not that crooked

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but I mean you're

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sideways how's that sound

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I've been told that before, too.

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But am I in where I should be?

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Well, at this point, I'm not worried about where you are.

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Do you see where you can get your documents up on your computer?

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I mean, it just says screen and system audio recording, and it says Zoom.

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And underneath that, it says system audio recording only.

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So you should see something at the bottom

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That's a green

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A green button that says share

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And if your documents are open

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And then you hit that then they come up

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No I don't see that I'm sorry

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What if I get rid of

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Oh well here's share

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Yeah there you go

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Now if your documents are open and you hit share

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It should come up

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It could be a little crooked when it comes up

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No, because now it just says screen and system audio recording, and it says Zoom.

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Wow.

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Ian, you have any ideas?

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Well, we've got a couple options, Chair.

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we can uh have mr ross test this out um and come back to him or i can pull up his uh what he's

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submitted earlier for the board to see could you do that do you have access to it in yep give me

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give me one minute please all right thank you we'll do that mr ross thank you

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i don't know why i'm upside down like that well i'm not i'm gonna say you're sideways

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you're not upside down yeah i guess

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now it says all right

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now it says

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now what what's going to happen is

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You

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Ian Haggerty is going to bring your stuff up and then you can look at it

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and you can testify from that there you go splendor that's your refusal

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right yes it is okay yes all right

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so what you know a lot of times when we

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show the refusal you want to tell us what is it you're trying to do well that's the easy part

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okay we're not trying to do any um construction whatsoever we're just trying to consolidate

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these two um adjoining properties right to be one property that's it okay all right we're not

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continue with the continue Ian

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and that is

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that's the two properties

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yes

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now the two properties are

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adjoining

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