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ZBA Hearing - March 18, 2026

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Mar 18, 20265h 49m

complaints at any point from neighbors historically. So currently out in Berks County, we have two

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Airbnbs that we just help my in-laws with an old farmhouse that they have. So that way they can,

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you know, upkeep the property and it's a way for them to make income. So I just help them manage

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that and then we also run one out of our own home out in Brooks County since we moved. So I would

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like to just continue that option here and I've historically always had a very very good experience

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with it. Some other concerns were you know how many there's always a concern of parking in

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Maniunk. It's a two-bedroom home so there would never be the option to have more than two cars

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there i can make that part of the listing if that's a concern and requirement um and that

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was really everything that was expressed um i think one of the larger oppositions i had in that

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was from one of the board members of the rco that he himself is a landlord um and he owns multiple

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properties around the city of philadelphia and his thing was well um if we let you do this then

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everybody can do it um and it's you know everyone would do this and it's an easy process when really

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i've been trying to do this process for over a year so i don't think it's an easy process

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that anyone could do um and that's okay you know i understand needing to go through all of this

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um it's just very very hard to coordinate with with hick and rco uh they would not give me a

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meeting date until a couple days before so therefore i would never meet the requirements

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of owner notifications um so it is not an easy process but all right quite other questions from

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the board questions so you you said that you run you've run these before yes is that at this

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property before the regulations came into effect and you said yeah before the regulations came

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into effect we lived on the property so we just rented out one of the rooms within the property

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oh okay and then you said that you did this for outside of the city as well

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okay and you said you have a good reading with yeah 4.98 stars 180 reviews

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Okay. So that's a lot of rentals. Okay. So you've, you've done this for some period of time then,

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is that? Yeah. Okay. I honestly really enjoy it because I've made some really,

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really good friends. Especially when we had people that were within our home.

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home. Some people have become longtime, longtime friends. And actually one of them got engaged to

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Some people have become long time, long time friends and actually one of them got

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my brother's best friend when they were staying with us for two weeks and they met and had a good

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relationship and went from there. Oh my. Okay. I actually have one. Thank you. I do have one

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more question. So it does look like you already have a limited lodging approval for this apartment

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and you have a rental license. So I guess I'm just trying to understand why do we need the

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additional visitor's accommodations approval for the same property if you already have limited

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lodging and a rental license? I guess I, well, I mean, maybe you could help me out with this

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on the difference between the limited lodging and the short-term rental, because I thought

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with the limited lodging, that doesn't allow us to do short-term rental, and I, what'd you say?

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so limited limited lodging is short-term rental but you reside in the property

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okay visitor accommodations you do not reside in the property and it's a short-term rental

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okay by the way that that was that was our attorney just so you know oh okay thank you

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yeah i mean so i don't i don't live there anymore so that's why i would like to do the short-term

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rental and to be honest i was a little bit confused at the beginning of the process and

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And I believe I mistakenly got the limited lodging license at first and did not actually

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need it at that time because we weren't doing Airbnb after the regs change.

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So.

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Yeah.

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So I've got a quick question.

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So you're going to be in Berks, are you in Berks County?

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Yeah.

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And so what's your plan to deal with issues as issues come up at this rental?

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Because Berks County takes a minute to get.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, my husband's self-employed. So it's something that he can help with. He's a handyman by trade

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and mechanical engineer. So whenever we have any issues at the property in general,

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whether it's from a handyman situation or tenant situation, he's able to go down and help whenever

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that's needed. Also, my work schedule is very flexible. So I can do that as well. And like I've

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said, you know, I have a lot of friends in the neighborhood. I've been living in and around

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Maniunk since 2013. So I know multiple people on Sharp Street, on Vassar, Salignac, Terrace. So I

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also have a lot of other community members around me. And I am very close with both of my neighbors

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as well. And we all have each other's phone numbers. So if there is ever an issue, you know,

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with our tenant, there was a trash can issue the other day, someone took someone's trash can

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accidentally and that got resolved immediately so she was just able to to text me

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um questions or comments sorry attorney have anything else

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not at this time mr care your comments from the virtual audience

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mr chair i do not see any hands raised for the matter planning commission thank you chair and

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good morning david fector with the city planning commission chairman and board members the

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comprehensive plan recommends no change to the rsa5 residential single-family zoning at this

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location the city rezoned this neighborhood in 1974 in a council-supported map change there is

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no unique physical condition or circumstance of this property that were prevented from being used

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in conformance with the zoning code a 2020 zoning ordinance passed by city council which regulated

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short-term rentals did not change the basic rule prohibiting full-time use of a dwelling unit as a

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short-term rental this type of absentee management where the owner does not live in the unit has been

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illegal since the first short-term rental zoning regulations became effective in 2015.

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what's changed since the passage of the 2020 ordinance is there is now a licensing enforcement

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mechanism the city planning commission recommends the zoning board deny the proposed use variance

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for visitor accommodation mi 2025 001 551 120 dawson street i vote yes temporary variance that

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will expire 319-29 michael johns my vote is yes with proviso charl gaster my vote is yes with

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proviso sonetta graham my vote is yes with proviso mcadams my vote is yes with proviso

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i win my vote is yes with proviso thank you thank you everyone i really appreciate your time thank

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you number eight mi 2025 001 556 53 14 to 24 north history darlene treat is the attorney

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there is a recommendation of unanimous support from logan civic association

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10 to 2 votes they're coming back in as a panelist thank you

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good morning commissioners and members of the board darling free on behalf of the applicant

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julia bridges just just for the record darling could you please spell your name for this

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julia bridges just just for the record darling could you please spell your name

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stenographer uh darlene d-a-r-l-e-n-e street p as in thomas h-r-e-a-t-t all right do you swear or

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affirm to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth yes i do our vice chair has a few

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questions good morning um have you submitted your documents and exhibits five days in advance of

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this hearing yes i have and do you waive the reading of the refusal and stipulate to its accuracy

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yes i do okay thank you you can share your screen and proceed with your case

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uh good morning commissioners i'm here uh representing uh julia and katrina bridges

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They would like to open a childcare center called Bridges to Learning. I submitted a host of documents approximately 50 pages. I'm just going to go through the relevant documents. I'm going to start with the refusal.

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This has a dual zoning resignation. It's a TA-1 and an I-1.

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A TA-1 would actually allow for the child care center.

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I-1 prohibited the child care center. Since it's the most restrictive zoning, I-1 is adopted and we were given a refusal.

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This area, I filed an appeal and basically my appeal states that this is really a commercial area.

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There are a couple commercial businesses on the lot and the building has been used for commercial businesses in the past.

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The applicants entered into a lease in 2024 and renovated the building only to find out at the end that it wasn't zoned and they've been waiting for the building to be zoned for like a year and a half.

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I'm just going to go down to the property information form.

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This is a huge lot.

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It's about 41,000 square feet, and there are about five or six businesses on the lot.

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I'm just going to go to what we propose with the child care center.

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Here is a brochure.

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Ms. Julia Bridges has previously owned two child care centers and has much experience.

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Ms. Katrina Bridges currently works with an agency associated with DHS for collaborative

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umbrella agencies, and they've been providing services for children through DHS for about

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15 or 16 years.

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Both of them currently now would like to open up their own daycare child care center.

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They would like to be open from 6 a.m. to 6 p.m.

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The ranges of the children that they would like to service is from six weeks to 12 years old.

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They would like to have a child care center, an after-school program, before-school program, as well as a summer day camp.

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They have currently some certifications.

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They have the, Ms. Julia Bridges has her SafeServe certification, and they both all have their, there's a food prep license.

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They both have the child background clearance.

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They have the first aid certifications, the child abuse certification, the criminal background check, and the sexual abuse clearance.

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clearance i'm going to go down to the plans now and i'm just going to enlarge it and go through

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it a little bit more closely so

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i'm going to start on the bottom here and i'm just going to enlarge just the bottom part

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right now so you can see it a little bit better so this is the layout of the whole entire premises

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The whole lot area is about 41,910 square feet.

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This is the section over here, which we would like to put the daycare in.

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I'll show you better pictures later, but this is Fifth Street here, and you would actually enter the premises here.

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This is a whole open area, like a parking area where you can actually park your car, walk out and go into the child care center.

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In the front here is a large commercial building.

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There's currently like a Chinese food store in here and there's also a grocery in here.

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And even though it's not drawn on the plan, there is an existing dumpster or dumpsters that sit on the lot right here.

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right here. In the back are more buildings. I believe there's a commercial construction company

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In the back are more buildings, I believe there's a

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that stores some equipment way back here in the back of the lot. Again, this is the area that we

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would like to use. This is the building area, and this right here is the outside area that we will

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use for the play area. Now I'm going to scroll up a little bit more so I can actually show you the

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layout let's see if i could enlarge it a little bit more so you can see it a little better okay

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so this is actually the um area for the daycare that we would like to have so this is the ground

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level you will walk into the daycare here and we actually have four different uh areas i'm just

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Going to move the phone over a little bit and up a little bit. Here we go.

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So you'd be able to walk into the daycare here. Here is the first open area to the side. Here is the reception area.

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okay so this is the first our child care area there's the kitchen area here we have the bathroom

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area here we have a handicap bathroom here which the staff will use um and we also have a large

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restroom here with six different facilities for the children to use over here we have the daycare

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area two over here we have the daycare area three and this is the daycare area four but we do have

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some stairs here where you can go upstairs and there's a area upstairs it's like half area i'll

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show you some pictures later and that's for the staff to have meetings and or to sit on their

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uh breaks and there are also a few computers up there i'd like to show you how you get in the

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building here and i also would like to show you that there's another exit on the ground floor

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through here now the all of the space together that we'll be leasing is approximately 1800 square

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feet if we did a raw calculation according to the state guidelines for the number of children

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Aurora calculation would be about 45. If you take out the non-usable area, it's about 40,

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but ultimately is the Department of State who will come in and indicate to us how many children

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maybe had. I'm just going to keep scrolling down now and I'm going to reduce it a little bit more

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again so you can get a better picture of it. This is the actual building and this is the actual

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area and the lot. This is the building that we would like to have the daycare in and there's

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a fence. This is an older picture. There's a fence and lot on the side that we have converted

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to a play area. This is the upstairs area where the staff can come and do their work

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and congregate or be on break. This is the kitchen area.

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That's the handicapped bathroom area. This is to the left is the children's with the six commodes in the bathroom area.

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This is one classroom.

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An additional classroom.

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Another classroom. There are four different classroom areas. Another classroom.

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and that's really the opening first classroom when you walk in the building

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that's the side view that you can look out into the yard directly from inside

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some additional classroom it's just more on interior pictures that's a picture of the lot

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upstairs picture

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uh infant room picture

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side yard picture

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this is actually the driveway where you actually enter the premises and you would drive back that

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was where we originally posted it and this is uh currently i believe a chinese bakery

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society with a picture in the windows where you can see directly out into the yard

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inside that's the picture of fifth street

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another picture of the original posting and that's a picture of the second posting uh we did meet

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with the Logan Civic Association on May 12th.

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Logan Civic Association on May 12th and we did have a meeting I thought I sent out 118 notices

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uh I thought it was a great meeting uh that the addition of the facility would be welcome

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and there were 15 members in attendance um and 10 members voted and we had a uh letter of support

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and that's really all I have today

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you want to bring your client on Darlene

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yes Ms. Julia Bridges would you raise your hand please

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Ms. Bridges

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do we see her hand

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um yes they'll be promoted as a panelist thank you very much thank you

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please accept invite to be panelists

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darling do you know how many uh students um aurora calculation uh commissioner would be uh 45

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okay all right here she is now hello i'm here hi julia could you please state your name and

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spell it for the stenographer julia bridges turner j-u-l-i-a b as in boy r-i-d-g-e-s space

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turner t-u-r-n-e-r do you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth

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yes i do counsel please proceed uh good morning uh miss julia uh is it your intention for you

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and your cousin katrina to run bridges to learning on 5324 north fourth street yes

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north fifth street excuse me yes i knew what you meant and do you currently uh have a leasehold to

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um conduct that business there yes and have you heard my testimony as presented to the board this

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morning yes and if you were to testify in this case julia would you adopt my bye excuse me my

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testimony as true and correct yes uh that's all i have commissioner questions from the board

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yeah i have a question about what else is happening at this location um like it's a

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really big complex and i see lots of gates and lots of cars and so i'm just trying to get a

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sense of like what else is happening on site okay i'm gonna go back to the plan and try to show you

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what else has happened it's a um when you cut great a landscaping company they come in in the

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morning and go inside of their gate and they park their cars and they go out and do landscaping

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for the day and then there is a chinese bakery up front when you pull in so their customers pull in

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and park their cars and go into their bakery but that's like far away from the child care center

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so basically my parents and my staff have parking to park in a lot because it's a big empty lot

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there's nothing else going on yeah and there's 41 000 square feet it's a really a huge lot

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it's not about the size of the lot it was just like what are the adjacent uses i got concerned

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children in cars and trucks are usually not things that i think go together very well um also just

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looking at like aerial photos of it it seems to be a lot of security fences so like do you have

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