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ZBA Hearing - September 25, 2024

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Sep 25, 20248h 45m

Okay, so let me stop that share and go back to, oops, I'm just going to see if I can share my screen name, desktop, share my desktop here.

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okay so let me stop that share

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now you see my desktop right yes so now I'm just going to open up this folder this valve

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do you still see my desktop we can see your finder where you are now do you see any of these

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okay okay good so it's going to take a half second because and I'm just going to open up

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slowly but surely now do you see this bathroom right here we do yes okay good all right so

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now i'm gonna close this out and unfortunately i have to do this um a slow and tedious way

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and i'm gonna here and this is the first floor kitchen can you see that we do okay good we

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already saw the second floor you already saw the second floor this is the first floor kitchen

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okay now i'm going to um slowly but surely what is this this is the uh this is the second this

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is a picture of a second floor bedroom so close that out and again slowly but surely

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this uh another picture of a bedroom on the second floor apartment so this is a two-bedroom

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apartment yes and this is the first floor hallway

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and again please forgive the tediousness of this um what is this this is i think you saw this one

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already the first floor bathroom and i'll just keep on going down the line

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i'm not sure what this one is but i know it's a second floor master bedroom

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is there anything uh in particular that that's that you're looking for or i haven't seen any

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photos of a living room i've seen two kitchens and no living rooms okay

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this is the uh first floor um dining slash like living area or you could use it however they want

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on the first floor so the gray floors are the first floor and the brown floor is the second floor

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and i'm sorry sir you want to see what again

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living room i'm sorry living living space living room living room you saw yeah we saw

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bedrooms and kitchens and you just showed what could be used as either living or dining room

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on the first floor so yes all right so those two rooms on the second floor let's go here

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this is the second floor right so this this is not the main bedroom in the um

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on the second floor on the second floor lead this leads out to the hallway and down this hallway here

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is it leads you to the master master bedroom on the um on that floor and if there's a door here

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in this corner and in the lower right i'm not sure if you can see my ex or not that that um

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leads to the kitchen.

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Where's the living room?

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I've been asking for a living room.

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Well, see, that could be

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used as a living room

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or the...

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You know what? Let me pull up the

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floor plan. That would be a better description.

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That would be good.

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Yeah. All right. Floor plan.

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And that is...

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That's also in the... Here you go.

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There we go.

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Can you see this?

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Yes. Perfect. Now, this should answer all your questions.

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You know, you started with that.

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You would have been good if you started with that. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

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That's OK. This is my first time doing this. This is much better.

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Much better. I'm not sure. I'm just trying to figure it out.

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So enlarge it or anything. No, no, no. That's fine for me.

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that's fine for me you've got a kitchen you've got a that's that's good for me room and two

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bedrooms and you've got two bedrooms and you've got a living room and a kitchen on both floors so

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I feel like I told you Joel I'm sorry all right so any other questions from the board

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I feel like I told you, Joel. I'm sorry.

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All right. So any other questions from the board?

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The only other question is there was, I'm sorry, that I have is on one of your photo of the rear, there was a service wire.

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It appeared to be coming out of the meter in the rear yard, going across the bottom of the steps and down the side of the building.

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Have you addressed that issue?

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Service wire. I think that's like cable, cable TV.

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Looks like it was going to the meter, Bob, to the meter.

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Hold on, let me go back to it then.

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I'm not sure what I'm talking about.

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What are you referring to?

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All right.

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Oh, on the outside photos.

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Okay, so hold on.

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Bear with me.

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Can you see my photos, please?

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Yeah, but we need the rear.

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Can you see where I'm flipping through?

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It looks like it's coming from the meter, from the electric.

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Here?

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Yes.

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No, no, no.

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That's a cable wire.

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That's cable TV.

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Okay.

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Yeah, that's a white cable TV.

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Okay.

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It's going, yeah.

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Yeah, right there.

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No, that's, no.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Yeah, that was a bad install on cable TV.

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They should have did better.

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That was the.

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Yeah, that still looks like a hazard.

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but all right thank you. Mr. you have a few questions one um does the who has access to the

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basement? Well I'm this it's a locked door so only the first floor would have access but I'm

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not gonna you know there's there's an entry point in the first floor apartment not the second floor

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to the basement. And then is there an entrance to the basement that can be accessed from the

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outside i'm assuming as like are you your property managing this yes the only basement is this right

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here um from the outside yeah okay so right now none of none of the rental tenants will have

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access to the basement no i wasn't gonna i was i was thinking about maybe letting the first floor

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tenant have access to the basement to store stuff down there

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but that would be just like

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more of a headache for me if I did that

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so it is an option though

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and then my second question

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is where are all of the

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meters for the second floor unit

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like where's their gas meter

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where's their electrical panel

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where's their hot water heater

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I think it was electric heat I thought I saw electric heat in there

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yeah uh so the electric panel you mean the electric panel for the first floor

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no for the second floor for the second floor is on the second floor it's on the second floor yes

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and the first floor is in the basement and then where is the hot water heaters uh both of them

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are in the basement both of them are in the basement i think my my concern is that as a

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person that's lived in a duplex in philadelphia is that oftentimes if there's a maintenance issue

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if like there's a lot of reasons when things are in the basement typically when you have a duplex

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if you're going to try to split things you try to keep all of the mechanics centralized so that if

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they need to be serviced by pico or if they need to be serviced by the water department you know

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the tenant can be there and like do that without having to have a third party come on site um and

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I think my only my main comment to you is that this is from a management standpoint you've made

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this difficult for for tenants to kind of self-service any of their mechanical needs in the

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unit okay they can they do second floor has access to their um electric panel first floor has but not

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the hot water heater so like if the pilot light is that right so there's like a number of things

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that could happen in a house that now

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the tenants don't

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have the ability to sort of address

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quickly in an

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emergency

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I don't have an issue with that

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having

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managed property

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I don't have an issue with that

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so

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601-50

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any other questions from the board

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questions or comments from our

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attorney

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um excuse me mr chair not on not on this case um but i do ask that we um return to number 17 next

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because we do have the vietnamese interpreter available thank you questions or comments from

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the virtual audience yes chair i have a hand up from a number ending in three five five

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Yes, Chair. I have a hand up from a number ending in 3552. I have allowed them to speak.

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Could you please state your name and spell for the court stenographer?

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Yes, this is Adrienne Fernandez, Swamp Little Neighborhood Process Association, RCO.

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Adrienne, just for the record, spell your name for the stenographer.

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okay um adrianne and my last name is spelled f-e-r-n-a-n-d-e-z do you swear or affirm to

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tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth yes please proceed okay um just wanted to

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request five provisos to our support for 3063 north 26th street and the first one

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is requesting a limit of two units and the second one is no basement living. The third one is to

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trash and recycle and be stored in the rear of the property. The fourth one is no rooftop deck

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because we've been having problems with illegal rooftop decks. Swampoodle and Community Action

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Group that we've had to spend a lot of extra time on with L&I in this vicinity. And the last

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provides a request is

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that a certificate of occupancy

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be required

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because this is a legalization.

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Okay.

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Anything else, Adrian?

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That's everything.

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Thank you.

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Any other questions or comments

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from the virtual audience?

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I do not see any further

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the parents, Mr. Chair. Planning Commission.

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Amy Boyd with the Planning Commission.

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The comprehensive plan recommends no change to zoning

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at this location from the existing residential single-family RSA 5.

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The appellate has demonstrated that there are unique physical conditions or

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circumstances of the property that would prevent it from being used in performance of the zoning

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code. Planning Commission recommends that the board grant the requested

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variance for two-family household living.

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Hillary, how do we

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have trash stored in the rear, two units only.

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Is there anything else that's enforceable?

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You could require a certificate of occupancy.

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Okay, thank you.

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MI 2024-002-796

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3063 North 26th Street. I vote

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Yes. With proviso. Trash stored in rear. Certificate occupancy needed. Two units only.

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Michael Johns. Yes. With provisos.

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Cheryl Gaston. Yes. With provisos.

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Tanetta Graham. Yes. With provisos.

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Iowan. Yes. With provisos.

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Thank you. Thank you, sir. You have your votes.

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Thank you. Have a good day.

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All right. Number 17, MI 2024, 002-893, 1815 South 17th Street.

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Viet Nguyen and Nga Dinh, and we have a Vietnamese interpreter.

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Could the interpreter please come on?

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you see the interpreter this is not the interpreter chair this is john kelly the court

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reporter i apologize for the interruption i had a crash on my computer i have been offline uh i got

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back on by phone during the last hearing and um after the proceedings when i i'll have a chance

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to get my computer back up i'd like to get the link so that i can uh complete the record uh

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from the time that I was off

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and I apologize.

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Okay, thank you.

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Interpreter, please raise your virtual hand

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and wait to be sworn in.

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We did have the interpreter, Mr. Chair.

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Okay, okay.

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Who's the 717 number?

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That's Mr. Kelly, Mr. Chair.

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The interpreter is Mai Nguyen.

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Let's see them.

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We'll have to come back to this case again, Mr. Chair.

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We'll keep an eye out for the interpreter.

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Why don't we start with the regular list, okay?

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Okay.

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