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ZBA Hearing - March 26, 2025

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Mar 26, 20254h 56m

advisory group 11 people attended letter of non-opposition from council member lazada

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property is tax compliant

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good afternoon council

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Good afternoon, Chair. I just sat back down. Who was the council person?

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Darcy Ann.

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Okay, thank you.

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I promoted Darcy Ann.

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Dorothy A. Hamill has declined. Her name is in here like four times. I'll try it again.

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Okay. Can Ms. Hamill, who is the counsel, raise her hand so we can promote the correct

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person. Thank you. Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman, members. My name is Dorothy Hamill, D-O-R-O-T-H-Y-H-A-M-I-L-L.

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I'm here on behalf of the

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How about

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth

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The whole truth and nothing but the truth

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I do

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Could you identify your client

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The relationship to the property

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My client is M&B

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Philly 8

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LLC

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Do you waive the reading of the refusal

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And agree with its accuracy

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I do. And has all your exhibits been in within five days prior? Yes. Please proceed.

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I do

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And has all your exhibits been in within five days prior

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Here we go.

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Let me share my screen.

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Can everyone see my screen? We can. Okay.

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Okay. My client is M&B Philly 8 LLC. They're the owner of the property. They bought the property

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approximately five years ago. It was in some rough condition. And

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there was, there had been a hair salon on the first floor,

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and then became vacant, and there are six apartments that were previously approved.

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The application is for a, it's under assembly and entertainment.

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It's a 30 to 35 space that holds approximately 30 to 35 people at 700 square feet.

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The proposed use is for an entertainment space for baby showers, sweet 16s, family-oriented parties.

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So that required, that use caused the issuance of a referral.

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There was a second proposed use, wholesale warehouse distribution storage that requires a refusal.

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Unfortunately, I think there wasn't something specific enough for what she was planning, so we had to file under the broad wholesale distribution storage warehouse.

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In addition to having an event space, the tenant in the premises is she also rents party equipment, tables, chairs, linens, lighted signs, chairs, like throne chairs, benches, bigger items.

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However, none of the larger, and I should add, you know, some fog machines, bubble machines, things like that.

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None of the larger items are stored in the premises.

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The only items that are stored in the premises are smaller items such as linens, chandeliers, table centers, flowers, things of that nature.

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utensils all of the larger items are stored in an off-site facility. So there

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is our appeal. Deed showing ownership of the property. We filed, we sent the

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notices as required to the Neighborhood Association. Here's proof of mailings.

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There's a letter of support from Frankfort Neighborhood Advisory

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Committee. I have included pictures of the zoning notices being posted and the

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person who took the picture um why don't you just bring it in a little bit so we can see yeah i'm

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just trying to bring it in a little bit now uh there i go that's that's the outside that's this

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is the outside so um and the chair that you see in the window is the you know the kind of throne

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chair that that she uh also rents but again none of these big ticket items are stored on the

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premises uh they're in another facility and as you can see on the window she identifies the

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type of events that she hosts birthday parties baby showers engagements game night gender reveals

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um there are two um she does events like a mommy and me or daddy and me type events

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type events, some like painting with a twist kind of events, very community-oriented events.

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some

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like

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This is the rear of the property, which is fenced. This is where trash would be stored.

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this is across the street

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this would be uh you could see her property her space uh next to the church there there's a

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there's an alleyway uh in between the two this is looking down the other side of the street

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and this is inside what the spaces would look like decorated. I'd like to point out that

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the operator of the premises is a resident of the neighborhood. She lives

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um just a couple blocks away from the facility she has lived there for about 20 years so she's

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very invested uh in the community and becoming a part of the community

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in fact during our meeting with the rco they had requested that we put out some information

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to some of the local groups, the sports groups, children's sports groups, things like that,

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to let people know that this kind of facility is available in the neighborhood.

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This is what the inside would look like for baby shower, children's birthday parties,

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engagement parties this is sorry it's a little small but this is sort of what the empty space

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looks like these are all pictures of decorated space I also have included this isn't the bathroom

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for the facility there is a bathroom for the rental space but I also wanted to include there

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are six rental units in the building. And when my client purchased the property, they redid

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five of the six units. They're looking to upgrade the sixth unit, but the resident in that

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unit has been a longtime resident and is not particularly interested in the disruption of

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of an upgrade so you know we're just working with them see what they'd like to do

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they change their mind so this is the updated bathrooms updated kitchen

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is this in the units upstairs correct is there a kitchen on the is there a kitchen on the at the

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in the facilities do they cook in the facility there's no cooking in the facility people bring

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in their own catering. Uh, there's no liquor license. Uh, people would be permitted to bring

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in liquor if they would like. However, um, they have to have a licensed bartender

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to serve, um, at any event and, you know, any insurances or requirements with the PLCB would

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have to be met, but that's not something I think we anticipate too much of. The hours of operation

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would be Monday to Friday, noon to 11 p.m., Saturday and Sunday, 10 a.m. to 11 p.m.

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We expect a lot of the events will be either early afternoon for children's parties or later

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afternoon into the evening for adult parties but uh which we anticipate will probably you know

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each event probably lasts somewhere between one to four one to five hours um trash is stored

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outside. There'll be closed trash cans. Trash is picked up by the Philadelphia Sanitation

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Department. The tenant is, as I said, very involved in the community. And you'll see

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in the letter of support that we received that, you know, the community noted,

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that, um, you know, the, the community noted how clean the premises is, uh, and, you know,

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which is, can be difficult along that stretch of, uh, Frankfort Avenue. So, um, he, let's see.

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previously you know just to give you a little bit of history on the property there were

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there's been a number of uses there spas furniture stores takeout restaurants delis

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as far as transportation and traffic we don't anticipate that this will produce any excessive

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of traffic on frankfort avenue there is parking um along frankfort avenue um because it is a local

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we anticipate this is going to be predominantly local use um we anticipate you know people coming

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from the neighborhood coming together in groups there's also um public transportation that's very

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convenient to the location. There's a number of septibuses that stop on the corner of the facility.

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In addition, obviously the elevated train runs right in front of the property and the Bridge

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and Pratt stop, which is the end of the line, is approximately two blocks from the premises.

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uh if you have any questions i'm happy to take any questions i have why don't you bring your

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client on sure i'd like to bring dj babalola

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you may come up as iodj

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BJ, if you are in the virtual audience, please raise your hand.

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He's coming up.

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Well, I think this may be under your name, Dorothy Ann Hamill.

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I guess that's why I'm coming up multiple times.

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Sorry.

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I don't see anyone in the audience by that name.

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so i know he's here

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hi i am here but i'm under my attorney's name

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hi could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer

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my name is ayodeji babalola is a y o d e j i and last name is b a b a

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L-O-L-A

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You swear or affirm to tell the truth

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the whole truth and nothing but the truth

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Yes

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Please proceed counsel

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Mr. Babalola

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have you heard my testimony

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and the exhibits that I presented

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to the board this afternoon

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Yes

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And you've heard the testimony that I've given

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and do you

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agree that my testimony

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is true and correct and would you adopt

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it as your own

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yes

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questions from the board

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yeah I have a couple questions

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my first question is

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so the trash that you were talking

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about you said it was going to be stored out

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in the rear is that the same place

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that the tenants store their trash

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no

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the tenants bring out the trash

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on trash day

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The trash is primarily just for the tenant, for the event tenant.

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So where is the trash being stored for the event and for the tenants?

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The trash for the event will be stored at the back of the building.

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But the trash for the tenants, they bring out their trash on trash day.

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Okay, and has there been any issues with trash since you've had the location of the property?

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Has there been any issues with trash, with the tenant's trash that you know of?

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No, no.

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Since we bought the property, actually, when we bought the property, we noticed a lot of trash in front of the building and just around the block in general.

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And we've made it a point.

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As a matter of fact, a tenant can testify.

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why she cleans in front of that building every day,

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just to make sure the appearance of the building

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stays neat and clean every day.

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Just worry about this, because of the dense space,

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just worry about this, because of the dense space, there may be more trash. So have you considered

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there may be more trash.

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So have you considered like.

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like commercial trash pickup? I don't think that there, oh, sorry. What I was going to say is I

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don't believe that commercial trash pickup is an option because there's no place to store a dumpster.

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okay all right and the other question is is there a separate sink on in the event space

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because you didn't show us the bathroom but is there a separate sink like so folks can like

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get water wash their hands outside of the bathroom

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yes there is a sink in the back of the uh behind the bathroom

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so there's a so i guess let me go back so um

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in this picture can you show us where the bathroom would be

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not the bathroom we're looking for where the sink is the extra sink right a sink separate

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to distinct from the bathroom sink so where would that be so here's if you look at the exit and i

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don't have a picture of that i could certainly get that but looking at this picture um dj

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is the bathroom behind that black door yes so it will be the space the bathroom and then another

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a small section where they would call the warming area with a little sink and a microwave

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and then a back door that leads to the trash area.

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So I guess the question is, is there an area, you said that the caterers would bring in

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whatever food, whatever.

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Is there like a food prep area that you have in the space?

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Yes, that would be the room in the back where I'm referencing, the sink area.

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Where there's a sink and a counter and a microwave.

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Okay, a sink, microwave.

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Is there any kind of refrigerator or anything there?

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Yes.

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I think the tenant is also on this call and she can confirm the refrigerator.

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but I'm certain on the sink

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and I want to say there's a refrigerator

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there as well

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I'm just

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thinking you need to keep

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whole foods cold

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you need some

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way to make sure that

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whatever the caterers

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are bringing that they can

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serve it at a temperature that will

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make sure that

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no one gets sick

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from what happens

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She's on this call if you want me to put her on to confirm the refrigerator, but I want

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to say yes.

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Her name is Rosalyn McNeil.

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She's probably under my name, too.

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Why don't we do this?

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Is everyone done with this?

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