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ZBA Hearing - February 10, 2021

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Feb 10, 20218h 33m

we do have an agreement in one of the cases on the list.

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I don't know if you want to go to that first

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before you go back to the other cases.

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That's up to you.

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I'm not sure of the order of the agenda, how you do agreements.

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It is an appeal against L&I.

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Sharon, I think no.

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I think we should get to number two first, because I think Frank should be part of that case.

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It doesn't really matter what order you use.

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It doesn't.

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It's not disputed.

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They are just reading the agreement into the record.

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Okay, so next, we are calling two related appeals.

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No, this is number 11, 516 South 4th Street, appeal against O&I.

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Calendar number 2279, 516 South 4th Street.

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Thank you, member.

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I'm sorry.

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Number A.

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Thank you, members of the board.

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This is Leonard F. Reuter, Senior Attorney for the City of Philadelphia.

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I would also note that Attorney Dawn Tancredi is also here on this matter for the appellant.

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If she could be unmuted and added to the panel.

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If she could be unmuted and added to the panel.

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He's been promoted.

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She's been promoted to panelists.

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Thank you.

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Ms. Tancredi, can you put your name and address on the record?

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Sure.

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Good afternoon.

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Dawn Tancredi, 2005 Market Street, Philadelphia 19103.

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I'm here today on behalf of the property owner, Wood Capital Investments.

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Okay.

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And do you swear or affirm to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

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Yes.

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Thank you.

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um so go ahead sure thank you um i'm just going to state to the board uh what the agreement is

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this is an appeal against ellen i um appealing the revocation of a zoning permit for the subject

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property and uh we're certainly i think prepared to get into details if you like but the the bottom

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line is that the city has, I and L&I had a discussion, we reviewed the matter, and a

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determination has been made that while we do believe the permit was originally issued

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in error, I know there's some due dispute about that, but we believe the permit was

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issued in error.

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However, because of certain commitments that were made by the current owner, that we do

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believe that uh this is a case where the per they now have vested rights to the permit and we will

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agree to a stipulated decision by the board granting the appeal and excuse me mr reuter

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shouldn't simply if you have reached an agreement is ms tancredi then willing to withdraw the appeal

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no the permit the underlying permit had been revoked

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so the permit would need to be reinstated yes we we would um actually prefer that this just

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go down as a as a stipulated decision uh of the board and then that that actually will probably

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um help streamline the process of reissuing the permit um i'm not sure that the board has that

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option we either grant or deny correct yes i think you can just grant the appeal that's basically

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what i'm saying it may be complicated too much okay that's great thank you

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uh any other testimony from either dawn or leonard mr chairman just for the record

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we do believe that the underlying permit was properly issued however the city has agreed

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not to challenge our appeal so we have no objection to the appeal being granted

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Leonard, done? Yes, that's all. Okay. Anybody have any questions?

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I don't think so, right? Okay. MI 2020-002279-516 South 4th Street. My vote is to grant the appeal.

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My vote is to grant the appeal. Appeal granted. Appeal granted.

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Okay, now we'll go back to number two, calendar number 3089 1324 Frankfurt Avenue, Sean Whalen.

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Hello again. It says my video has been stopped by the host. So I can't go back on. There we go.

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All right, you're on. Hello again, everybody.

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you've you've been sworn in already all right i i just wanted to make sure we didn't have to

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talk over each other when that happened again um thank you very much again sean whalen here for

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1324 frankfurt um i'm going to share my screen

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and see

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why this isn't working

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one of those days

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always is

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I apologize

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my old computer crashed

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and I got a new one

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and it's not letting Zoom share my screen

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interesting

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interesting okay uh well i will talk through it and while i finish the while i get this uh

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worked out i will uh just tell you about it so uh 1324 frankfurt is a large trapezoidal parcel

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zone CMX2, in between the streets of Thompson and Master, and it goes all the way from Frankfurt to

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And it goes all the way from Frankfurt back to Lee Street.

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This is a developed commercial corridor, obviously, along Frankfurt Avenue.

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The trapezoid, you know what, I am not having luck doing this.

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So let me, I'm going to have Ori share his screen for me real quick.

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Um, if you just give me two seconds, I'll, I'll send him an email with the, um, again,

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my apologies.

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Okay.

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Um.

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sorry it's all easier to do when people aren't waiting on you to do it right

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Sorry about this.

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I will have him do it piecemeal then.

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All right, we'll start with this, all right, if Ori Fibush could be raised to a, to share

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his screen. Mr. Fybush has been promoted to panelists.

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Okay.

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Fybush when you get on would you please identify yourself for the record first and last name,

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spell your name. Good afternoon, Ori Fybush with OCF Realty, address 1936 Washington Avenue.

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Can you spell your last name, Mr. Fybush? Epheson Frank, E-I-B-U-S-H. Do you swear and

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affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth? I do, yes. Ellen or Mr. Fybush,

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someone please proceed all right uh or you yeah would you please share uh the first um document

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i provided you was a copy of the original refusal uh this is so this is the updated refusal can you

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show the original refusal absolutely um so just to show the board enlarge that a little bit

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Slightly enlarge that, please.

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Absolutely.

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Nope, that went the other way.

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Thank you.

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So the original application for this matter was submitted back in June of 2020.

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And as you can see on the date of this refusal, it was dated 11-16-2020.

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We basically tried for five months with L&I to get a revised refusal.

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that was sort of the background that I already testified to. And I will walk you through or if

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you could just bring up the aerial photos, the aerial maps I sent you. So this

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Can you rotate it?

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Yeah, so as I was describing before, you have Frankfurt Avenue, and it goes all the way back

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to Lee Street. This is a large trapezoidal parcel. What we are essentially doing is drawing a north-south

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line to make a large rectangular parcel along Frankfurt Avenue, and there would be then

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and there would be then a trapezoidal parcel down along North Lee Street.

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a trapezoidal parcel down along north.

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And, Ori, I sent you just now a second email with the zoning plan.

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If you could bring that up, that might help them understand.

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and Sean I have the presentation available as well here if that helps oh okay uh that might

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be easier to just walk through then um yeah so what you see is this is uh CMX2 um we have CMX3

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across the across the street and uh CMX2 on the other side of us so what we're going to do

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is Parcel A, which fronts along Frankfurt Avenue, has been approved and is actually

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a large apartment building, almost entirely built out. Can you bring up the zoning plan, Ori?

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Oh, perfect. Here we go. So if you see the white section, basically, that white rectangle

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toward Frankfurt Avenue, that is Parcel A. That is fully approved and is, like I said,

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almost entirely constructed. And we originally were going to put seven townhomes on the rear of

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this parcel, which would have been by right fronting on Lee Street. Through a number of

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conversations that I'll have Mr. Fibush testify to because I was not party to them, the neighborhood

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essentially requested that we seek variance relief to provide an apartment building in this parcel

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instead of townhomes in order to limit any vehicular traffic down and along lee street

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which the neighborhood is is looking to make much more pedestrian friendly and right now

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is full of kind of relatively dilapidated warehouses but looking at redevelopment

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so the the proposed apartment building is 20 units with vacant first floor commercial space

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which we will be filled um again i'm we have not we've met with the uh rco and had multiple

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meetings with the rco and their zoning committee and and um i'm not sure what position they're

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going to take today because they have not provided us with a letter uh to my understanding but they

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are on here and i will allow them to obviously discuss for themselves the um fishtown business

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district has supported us and so again without without getting too much in the weeds uh this

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project has not changed any from its original iteration last june um we received you saw the

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original the refusal we received the original one um that refusal cites that only 13 units are

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allowed and we were requesting 21. That was actually an error because 16 units are allowed

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when you apply the necessary green roof bonuses and we were only seeking 20 units. It also said

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that we're seeking 55 feet in height. This is incorrect. We're actually going to be lower than

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the building behind us. We're seeking 45 feet in height. The issue was the way that the building

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curves the roof deck and roof deck access structure kind of caught one of the setbacks

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and so therefore we have provided you and I sent previously to Ms. Saleta a proviso plans form and

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proviso plans that will show you know we meet the necessary setbacks so the refusal should be for 45

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feet not 55 feet and again this was this this has not changed the only thing that changed was a

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slight uh setback increase there so again um the neighborhood and all of the stakeholders here

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have always known exactly what this project would be we're not changing it as we go forward

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the revised refusal uh which miss saletta asked me about um we have no idea how what process that

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was issued through we did not request leave of this board to have a revised refusal issued

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um to my knowledge no one did we just received a revised refusal on february 3rd from the examiner

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which included a new refusal for parcel b that um we were uh now in violation of the allowed open

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area and we were at 77 instead of 75 um again nothing has changed on the project uh the the

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math there is just incorrect. So that is that is an incorrect refusal. At all times, we expected to

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get Lee Street should have been by right and should have issued no.

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Lee Street should have been by right and should have issued no refusals. And we have at all times

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stated that we thought we should have been given two refusals on Parcel A. Again, Parcel A is

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entirely built out. This application includes a subdivision. And so we thought that we had

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14 units too many on Parcel A, if granted the subdivision, and that that open space

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were a little over the allowed amount. Again, we proceeded here. This is sort of much to do about

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nothing yet again, because when we originally applied for parcel A, we made a payment of

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approximately $370,000 into the affordable housing trust fund. And that payment was made based on the

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total square footage of the entire lot. And in a decision of the first instance, when we told the

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Planning Commission under our new application that we wanted to build out this portion of the

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property as well, the Planning Commission told us that the payment we made, even though it was

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paid for the entire square footage, could not be applied toward that square footage and said that

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um you know we would have to completely restart the process um accordingly what you're seeing is

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a uh an odd request where if we had done this as a pud it would have been approved and and of not

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no issue but because we're subdividing the property it's uh it's now raising raising issues

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um you know this this parcel has been going on this project has been going on for a very long

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time. And again, this building that you're seeing right there, right across from a number of

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dilapidated warehouses, my understanding, and again, I will allow Mr. Miller to speak on behalf

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of FNA, is largely in favor and generally in favor, but they want to see a correct refusal.

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And I believe that it's not possible in this matter to get what all parties may consider a

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correct refusal simply we've been at this for you know nine or ten months now and it hasn't

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happened and obviously FNA or the councilman's office or someone else has gotten involved and

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we still didn't get one so you know we believe that we meet the hardship criteria here even

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though this is all done based on the request of the neighbors instead of having townhomes back

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there by right uh you know we have a large trapezoidal parcel um this is a a difficult

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place to build and a unique situation for this property um and you know we believe that it's

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contextually appropriate for the changing nature and development of this uh this area which the

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again you know all parties wanted so with that i would conclude my portion and simply ask um

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Mr. Fybush, I believe you're already under oath, correct?

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I believe I am, yes.

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Mr. Fybush, did you hear all the testimony I just presented?

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I did.

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And do you believe it true and correct to the best of your knowledge?

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I do.

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And would you adopt it as your own?

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I would.

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All right.

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And Mr. Fybush, how would you expound upon what I just explained to the board and some

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of the discussions you've had with the neighbors, which obviously is the focal point of today's

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hearing, I think.

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Sure.

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So I'll keep it brief here.

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When we originally purchased this property two years ago, our plan had been to develop a 50-unit apartment building on top of retail on the Frankfurt Avenue frontage and seven homes, as you alluded to, on this rear Lee Street frontage.

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Those homes would have been served by a curb cut in a drive aisle to provide parking for the respective homeowners.

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Feedback that I received from immediate neighbors and stakeholders was that they wanted Lee Street to have two aspirational items that my project did include.

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One, no parking, and two, commercial.

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They believed that the Lee Street facade and Lee Street frontage could actually support a viable active commercial space.

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And I actually needed a lot of arm twisting to get my brain around the idea that Lee Street could support a real and capable retail tenant.

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