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ZBA Hearing - February 10, 2021

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Feb 10, 20218h 33m

don't have a tenant they when they submit we met with them comply with 1403 14303 and when we met

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with them they sent this email that included a photo so this is the email we received from

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south street head houses with the comments and we addressed most of the almost all those comments

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and you can see right here that the email and unfortunately i didn't include this because i

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didn't have the benefit of Queen Village's letter to submit at the time. And I can submit this as

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a supplemental exhibit if necessary. But the attachment that South Street Headhouse District

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provided in redesigning the ground floor front facade had this image, because originally we

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only had one door, one entrance door, which accessed both the commercial space and the

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residential space. So the email we received from South Street Headhouse had this image

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of residential door, commercial door, and then storefront.

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But it also included this sketch, which was provided by, I think, Queen Village,

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which showed, if I can make this a little larger, if you see it on my screen,

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where they wanted us to split the doors apart with the storefront in between.

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mean the one problem we have with that we would we comply with everything else in this email

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everything else the one issue we have is that this location by moving the door over to this

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right hand side splitting because right now we have an alley and two doors next to each other

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which i'll show you real quickly in our rendering is that there's a bill code door right in front

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of that right-hand side right now. So if you look at the pictures that we have here, you can see

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the subject property, how it exists right now. There's an alley, there's one door, actually

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access to those residential unit above right now is access through this alley to stairs that lead

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up to a deck in the rear, and I can show you this. But here you can see just a little bit that I'm

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circling the bilko that's on the right so in order to do what queen village wants us to do

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we would have to remove this whole bilko door and relocate it dig up the whole sidewalk and

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relocate it into the middle of the building underneath the storefront that they want us

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to put in and the problem with that again is you know it's an extreme cost we we did what

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South Street Head House wanted this to do, which they both wanted us to do, which was adding the

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second door. And again, none of this has anything to do with zoning. And I'm going to show you real

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quickly what our, you know, our rendering and what it looks like. And what we, just give me one second.

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um and the problem with complying with queen village's request again is we would do it in a

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heartbeat and move the second door that we've added at the request of both groups except where

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they want to put it is in front of the bilko which you're not allowed to do streets won't allow us to

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do that building code won't allow us to do that and the cost to do that is is very high and again

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so you're basically changing the location of a door from both being on the left side to both

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being to being split at an extreme cost to my client and we've done everything else that they

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everything else that they wanted us to do in terms of modifications for the building

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wanted us to do in terms of modifications to the building and

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and reworking the whole front to side.

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David, that is the proviso that they're asking for?

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That was the one Queen Village.

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It's not the coordinating RCO is asking.

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Right, right.

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But the Queen Village asked for that.

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Yeah, and again, I can show you here.

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No other provisos from either group?

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No, the only here you can see.

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And again, this is the letter dated 2A.

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I just want to make sure.

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I just want to make sure I'm not leaving anything out.

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so here's what about south street head house district again in my they're not asking for that

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they're not asking for that in fact they actually showed us a picture like i showed you originally

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and again this was not in my exhibit book but in the email they actually sent south street head

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house who's a coordinating rco sent us an image with the door side by side which which works

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because we can do that and not have an issue with the bill code and still keep our built code which

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is an essential part of the commercial space on the ground floor in terms of loading inventory

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if it's a restaurant if it's if it's retail whatever it might be um here is and again here's

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the what we originally submitted to the group which was one entrance door then you would go

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either into the right into the commercial unit or go upstairs to the residential units and then what

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we'd submitted then what we had is we had we revised our elevations and what we provided was

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something that looked much different than that and actually I'd have to go back to the beginning

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to show you this is how we revised it if you look at the two so this is how we change it from what

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we originally showed beautiful detailing we've maintained the cornice right now there's an

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awning that covers this we're removing the awning and remaining but we're maintaining both cornices

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that exist but right now we're showing both doors right here because this over here which is where

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queen village and i understand the symmetry of what they're requesting but the cost to do it

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and again we've complied with the picture that south street head house sent us and it looks

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beautiful okay i mean it's not a zoning what they've requested is not a zoning related issue

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and it creates a lot of cost

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and a lot of building code issues

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if we're to comply with it.

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We would otherwise.

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We'd have no issue whatsoever.

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Understood.

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Thank you.

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Do you have any...

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I'm sorry.

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What was that?

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Do you have anyone?

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Do you have your client on?

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Yes, I do.

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I have both the architect, Warren Thompson,

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that I'd ask her to be unmuted

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and I have Dr. Andrew Raven

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who is the owner

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who represents the...

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Let's get the owner on

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to adopt your testimony

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and we'll move on from there and i'd actually ask you can you hear me can you hear me yes please

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identify yourself for the record yeah and andrew uh raven r-a-b-s-m-y-n i'm at uh 964 west pen drive

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westchester pennsylvania 19380 and i concur with everything that uh you sorry sorry slow down

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dr raven let me let me ask let me ask you to do it my way david everyone hold on he has to be sworn

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in everybody slow down please i know i'm trying to move this fast but i'm sorry no problem sir

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do you swear and affirm to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth

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i most certainly do okay mr orphanetes

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david you're muted

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mr orphanetes you're muted oh i don't know you're asking your case yes no no here i go

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I didn't touch anything, but anyway, Dr. Rabin, did you hear the statements that I made to

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the board? I did. And are they true and correct to the best of your knowledge? Yes, they are.

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And would you adopt them as your own? Absolutely. And then real quickly, in terms of the

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architectural elements, if Lauren Thompson could be unmuted, I can have her quickly adopt my

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statements as well. Good evening, ma'am. Please identify yourself with the record.

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hi good evening my name is lauren thompson we're in the firm to tell the truth the whole truth

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nothing but the truth yes i do david please proceed lauren did you hear my statements that

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i made to the board i did and are they true and correct to the best of your knowledge

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yes they are and do you adopt them as your own yes i do particularly those that relate to

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relocating the door that right now we're showing here in the middle to the south side of the

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building in front of the bilko door yes i totally agree okay thank you and again if you look i'm not

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going to go through all my exhibits we have shadow studies that show the difference between what

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we're proposing um is no different and then a by right uh in all respects in terms of shadowing

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the buildings to the north of us is not conforming the buildings to the east of us are not

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the buildings to the north of us is not conforming the buildings to the east of us are not conforming

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in fact the buildings to the east of us occupy 100 of the lot we're maintaining the existing

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ridge at the front of the building we're just kind of expanding the headroom to the front

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but otherwise the existing ridge here is the existing ridge for the existing gable roof

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and we're not changing that we're maintaining that okay thank you questions from the board

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no no anyone else would like to testify in this case if so please raise your hand

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there are no hands at this time chair thank you planning commission good evening david

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effecto city planning commission mr chairman members of the board the comprehensive plan

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recommends commercial mixed use for this property we do not believe granting these variances would

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negatively impact the block we do not oppose granting these variances thank you mi 2020

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mr chairman real quickly there are revised drawings at exhibit three that were provided to

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the zoning board and the zoning board's attorney on friday along with the revised proviso plan form

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and those these revisions were made pursuant to the requests of both rcos

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how many uh two pages two pages thank you mi 2020-003135615 south third street my vote is yes

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with the proviso revised plan two pages approved today my vote is yes proviso yes with proviso

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yes with proviso thank you calendar number 2035-6047 west oxford street the attorney is

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alan knockamson and we have a letter of support from the overbrook west neighbor's cdc

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alan you've been promoted

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Allen, name and address, please.

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Allen Ockamson, A-L-A-N, Ockamson, N-O-C-H-U-M-S-O-N, address 123 South Broad Street, Suite 1600, 19109.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Do you agree to waive and stip?

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I do.

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Have you emailed the exhibit packet with all the required documents that you're familiar with?

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I have.

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THANK YOU. YOU MAY PROCEED. GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF

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THE BOARD. I'M GOING TO MAKE IT REALLY QUICK. I BELIEVE I HEARD WHEN I WAS GETTING TRANSITIONED

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OVER THAT IT WAS INDICATED THAT WE DO HAVE A LETTER OF SUPPORT. I'M GOING TO SHARE MY

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screen really quickly if you don't mind so we have a letter excuse me this is Sharon Saleta we have a

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letter of support but the proviso is maximum two units no living space in basements and I believe

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there are four units proposed that's right so I was going to explain that so we have a letter of

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support. It was for two units. It did say in the letter of support that there was a debate between

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two or three. People voted majority in favor of that. I did talk to Gregory Allen, the head of

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Overbrook West Neighbors CDC today, and we came to an agreement with a proviso for a maximum of

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three units. In terms of the basement living, just to quickly go through, just to show you

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the pictures, it's really not a basement. It's above grade. So you can see here we're

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corner property. Even the lower level is above grade, but we agreed that we would make the

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first uh the proper the unit on the first floor into a bi-level and it would not have direct

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entrance or exit out of the side and then i sent an email to the zoning board and i apologize

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mr letter i did not i forgot to copy you on it confirming our understanding including mr mr allen

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on that email this afternoon so the proviso would be maximum three units

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uh any questions from the board no anyone else would like to test no hands

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no hands at this time chair thank you planning commission good evening mr chairman members of

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the board david effecto city planning commission the comprehensive plan recommends this property

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for single family zoning we believe that four units would be an overuse of the property however

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however we believe that a 2500 square foot lot with an existing home could accommodate two

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However, we believe that a 2,500-square-foot lot with an existing home could accommodate

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two residents.

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residential units without having a negative impact on the block we recommend approval limited to two

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units thank you and allen again you have a letter you said from the rco supporting three units i

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talked to mr allen earlier today and then i confirmed that our agreement by way of sending

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an email to the board as we copied mr allen on it for a maximum of three units okay thank you

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MI 2020-002-035, 6047 West Oxford Street.

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My vote is yes with the proviso, maximum three units.

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My vote is yes with proviso.

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Yes, with proviso.

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Yes, with proviso.

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Okay, thank you.

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Thank you very much.

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That concludes the two o'clock hearing list.

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Is there anything left?

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Did we leave anything out of the 2 o'clock list, rather?

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No, you didn't.

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Nope, everything seems good, Chair.

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I'm sorry, what was that?

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Everything seems good.

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Okay, I know it's running late.

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Does anyone...

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Everyone ready on RN?

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Ready to go, Chair.

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Thank you.

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Good evening, everyone.

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My name is Frank DiCicco.

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I'm the Chair of the Zoning Board of Adjustment.

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I'll be participating in today's hearing with Vice Chair Ms. Carol Tenere, Board Secretary

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Confessor Plaza and Board Members Mr. Thomas Holloman and Mr. James Snell, Board Administrator

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Yvonne Benton, I'm sorry Yvette Benton, and our Board Attorney Ms. Sharon Saleta are also

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in attendance. For those of you who haven't yet participated in one of our virtual hearings,

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I'll go through some of the basics of what you can expect. First, we will be administering oaths

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to individual participants prior to their testimony. Second, we'd like to advise everyone

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that this proceeding is being recorded and that by participating you acknowledge your agreement

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to be recorded and with this proceeding will be available to the public on the web or otherwise.

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Third, for anyone participating by phone, if you wish to testify, you must raise your hand by hitting star 9 and then star 6 to unmute yourself.

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I'll repeat.

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For anyone participating by phone, if you wish to testify, you must raise your hand by hitting star 9 and then star 6 to unmute yourself.

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finally to enter an appearance statement call google 267-270-5548 and leave your email address

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and the address of the property at issue i'll repeat to enter an appearance statement call

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google 267-270-5548 and leave your email address and the address of the property at issue

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I would also like to advise everyone to please do not attempt to testify in the chat.

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Any comments should be directed to our Board Administrator, Ms. Yvette Benton.

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