civus
Hearing video

ZBA Hearing - November 6, 2024

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Nov 6, 20244h 58m

Again, here's just a key site so that the board can orient itself.

Similar wording

This building right here is the Jefferson Plaza, again, with our entrance being right here on the 11th Street building.

Similar wording

The applicant seeking a special exception this afternoon for a full-service Mexican restaurant at the subject property known as Mi Vita.

Similar wording

This is another floor plan.

Similar wording

Again, orienting the board again.

Similar wording

Here is the Jefferson Plaza.

Similar wording

This is our building where we will have access.

Similar wording

This is our building where we will have access down Ludlow Street, which is right down here.

Similar wording

There's other shops and restaurants located in the surrounding area, as you can see from

Similar wording

these photos.

Similar wording

Another pedestrian courtyard.

Similar wording

And then our entrance, which is located right here.

Similar wording

This is, again, to orient the board, Clover Street, which is a private street, pedestrian

Similar wording

walk through. So again, you kind of see that mixed use feel. There's offices on top. And again,

Similar wording

this is the space right here for the property that we're speaking about. Again, the restaurant

Similar wording

itself is called Mi Vita. It's a Mexican restaurant. Right now there are, and I'm sorry,

Similar wording

I'm having, it seems like everybody in my office is having issues with PDFs today.

Similar wording

There are currently three locations of Mi Vita. They're all operating in Washington, D.C. One

Similar wording

One of the witnesses that I'll be calling after this testimony will give a little bit more of an overview of the restaurant itself.

Similar wording

Again, the location itself will not technically have frontage on Chestnut or Walnut, but internal pedestrian access from Chestnut Walk and Ludlow Street.

Similar wording

Trash accumulation and collection will be completely stored internally.

Similar wording

and it'll be collected and transported internally and deposited through our internal

Similar wording

loading dock. It'll be collected minimally at least twice a week. The exhaust louvers are all

Similar wording

located along Clover Street, which again is also a private street. The hours of operations will be

Similar wording

seven days a week with the estimated hours in the beginning being 11 a.m. to 11 p.m. Monday through

Similar wording

Thursday, 11 a.m. to 12 a.m. Friday through Saturday, and 11 a.m. to 10 p.m. on Sunday.

Similar wording

As I mentioned before, we are here because the refusal requiring us to get a special exception

Similar wording

for a restaurant because of that frontage on Chestnut or Walnut Street. As shown from the

Similar wording

photos, this use will be similar to other uses on the ground floor of this area. The proposed use

Similar wording

will not be detrimental to the surrounding area,

Similar wording

and the proposed use wouldn't create any greater harm

Similar wording

than what is expected from a similar permitted use.

Similar wording

We did have a meeting before the RCO,

Similar wording

the Washington Square Civic Association,

Similar wording

which, as the chairman noted, did give us a letter of support,

Similar wording

which is on the screen right now.

Similar wording

If I can, Mr. Chairman, the first witness that I would like to just call

Similar wording

is the owner of or representative of the ownership of the building,

Similar wording

which is mr charles norman and after that it'll be council council when you call him could you

Similar wording

show us the plans for what the restaurant's going to look like inside yeah and i was going to have

Similar wording

the operator of the restaurant or the principal that's right that's right yep yep yep that's

Similar wording

fine okay what's his name his name is charles norman okay charles norman i'm not allowed to

Similar wording

speak there could you please state your name and spell for the court stenographer

Similar wording

Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman.

Similar wording

My name is Charles Norman, C-H-A-R-L-E-S-N-O-R-M-A-N.

Similar wording

Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

Similar wording

I do.

Similar wording

Please proceed, counsel.

Similar wording

Thank you very much.

Similar wording

Mr. Norman, can you state your title and your affiliation with the landowner?

Similar wording

Sure.

Similar wording

I'm a senior development manager, and I was responsible for the development of the 1100

Similar wording

Ludlow building that this restaurant is proposed to be in.

Similar wording

All right.

Similar wording

And were you on the call when I went through the testimony?

Similar wording

I was.

Similar wording

And did you hear everything that I provided to the board?

Similar wording

I did.

Similar wording

Is everything that you heard true and accurate to the best of your knowledge,

Similar wording

information, and belief?

Similar wording

It is, Leonard.

Similar wording

And would you adopt that as your own?

Similar wording

I would.

Similar wording

Okay.

Similar wording

The only question I have for you, Mr. Norman, is you guys obviously vetted this tenant

Similar wording

before you signed any sort of agreements

Similar wording

to have them come in here.

Similar wording

Do you agree with that statement

Similar wording

that they would be essentially a good use

Similar wording

and a fit for this area?

Similar wording

I do.

Similar wording

I think it'd be a fantastic use

Similar wording

and a fantastic tenant

Similar wording

and a great amenity for the neighborhood.

Similar wording

All right, perfect.

Similar wording

I have no further questions for Mr. Norman,

Similar wording

Mr. Chairman.

Similar wording

Okay, you have another witness?

Similar wording

I do.

Similar wording

I have one other witness.

Similar wording

It's Mr. Jason Berry,

Similar wording

and he's the principal of the uh me vita sure jason berry if you're in the virtual audience

Similar wording

please raise your hand

Similar wording

jason berry has been allowed to speak

Similar wording

hello can you hear me right could you yes could you please state your name and spell for the

Similar wording

photographer jason berry j-a-s-o-n berry b-e-r-r-y where a firm to tell the truth

Similar wording

Do I affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

Similar wording

the whole truth and nothing but the truth i do

Similar wording

I do.

Similar wording

Please proceed, counsel.

Similar wording

Mr. Berry, can you please state your name and title and affiliation with MiVita?

Similar wording

My name is Jason Berry. I am the co-founder and principal for Need Hospitality and Design, which is the owner-operator of MiVita.

Similar wording

And have you heard, were you on the call when I went through the testimony to the board?

Similar wording

I was, and everything was true and accurate.

Similar wording

All right, that was the second question.

Similar wording

And you would adopt it as your own, sir?

Similar wording

I would.

Similar wording

All right, perfect.

Similar wording

Now, I do have on the screen, as I'm sure you can see, some photos that were from the Washington, D.C. location.

Similar wording

Is that correct?

Similar wording

Yes, sir.

Similar wording

Okay.

Similar wording

Can you just explain to the board and just kind of talk to the board a little bit about MiVita and sort of the photos that we see here, what the architecture is going to be internally, and then we'll get into the floor plans as well.

Similar wording

Sure. Where would you like to start?

Similar wording

Let's start talking about the photos I'm showing right now.

Similar wording

Just talk a little bit about Mi Vita and sort of what you guys are going to be doing here in Philadelphia.

Similar wording

Mi Vita is an upscale, casual Mexican restaurant.

Similar wording

It's pan-Mexican, meaning that we serve food and beverage from all over Mexico.

Similar wording

Obviously, we specialize in tequila and mezcal, which are the two most well-known spirits.

Similar wording

We serve beer. We serve wine. We serve brunch. We serve lunch and dinner. We offer a happy hour. And the photos that you're showing of our original location in Washington, D.C.'s District Wharf, that restaurant is a three-level restaurant.

Similar wording

uh and uh this is the ground floor uh this restaurant picture that you're on right now

Similar wording

is our 14th street location which is the second of the maybe it is to open here in dc and uh you

Similar wording

know this is uh high design high style high ceilings uh you know one of our mantras in our

Similar wording

company is that you eat with your eyes so we spend a lot of time and energy designing our restaurants

Similar wording

and operating them to the highest level and highest quality.

Similar wording

Hopefully you agree with what you're seeing.

Similar wording

The top picture there and the screen is our newest location

Similar wording

in Penn Quarter, neighborhood of Washington, D.C.,

Similar wording

across the street from the Capital One Arena.

Similar wording

So this is, of the three restaurants,

Similar wording

probably the most close design to what we're going to be doing in Philadelphia.

Similar wording

I don't know if that answers your questions.

Similar wording

No, it's funny.

Similar wording

Why don't you show us the floor plans?

Similar wording

Yep.

Similar wording

can you see that mr chairman yes i can okay jason do you and it's either if you're not

Similar wording

comfortable walking through this we can have charles so but do you want to walk the board

Similar wording

through the floor plan just kind of give a quick overview of what we're showing on the screen here

Similar wording

yeah i can do that unless charles prefers to do it why don't why don't you do it why don't we just

Similar wording

If you look at the top left of your screen, the entrance, I guess the great the great area on the left side of the of the screen is our covered patio.

Similar wording

Call it a loja. There's some seating for there's banquette seating.

Similar wording

This is actually looks like a reflected ceiling plan or something else.

Similar wording

So this is not an actual floor plan showing the seating. I don't know if you'd rather show that.

Similar wording

yeah that that one um uh top left is uh the entrance to the restaurant walking through

Similar wording

the loja into the uh restaurant uh those double doors towards the top into the welcome area

Similar wording

as you scroll down uh you'll see the bar we have 88 seating at the top of the bar

Similar wording

and then about uh 17 seats uh inside on the exterior where the sorry my screen's really

Similar wording

jumping around so i apologize but on the left side of the the uh left side of the screen you'll

Similar wording

see our covered patio with various banquette seating options uh with heaters and fans outside

Similar wording

back to the interior opposite the bar you'll see some booths uh and banquettes we have a lot of

Similar wording

different kinds of seating. The restrooms for our guests are towards the bottom of the screen.

Similar wording

We offer individualized all-gender restrooms, so it provides a lot of privacy for our guests,

Similar wording

which we are big fans of. On the top of the screen, top of the floor plan, you'll see

Similar wording

a nice long table for larger groups moving into a room that has varied banquette seating,

Similar wording

and then moving into our private room, which will be used for private events as well as

Similar wording

uh general dining room a la carte reservations when applicable the rest of the space is back

Similar wording

general dining room a la carte reservations when applicable.

Similar wording

The rest of the...

Similar wording

of the house including kitchen uh hotline prep area storage etc

Similar wording

perfect mr chairman i have no further questions for uh mr barry okay did you have has your

Similar wording

testimony been adopted i believe mr barry did you i know that you said uh everything was true and

Similar wording

accurate uh that i stated would you adopt that that testimony that i provided as your own i would

Similar wording

questions from the board yes what's the hours of operations

Similar wording

so the hours of opera sorry oh you got that that's fine i do the hours of operation monday

Similar wording

through thursday sir are 11 a.m to 11 p.m friday to saturday 11 a.m to 12 a.m

Similar wording

and sunday uh 11 a.m to 10 p.m did you have a uh did we have did i didn't see a letter of support

Similar wording

from the rcl or there is yeah there is washington square west you're not unanimous and a non-opposition

Similar wording

from council members okay great thank you um any other questions from the board uh yes uh can we

Similar wording

uh i'm trying to figure out where this is i think this is uh where the it's like 11th and

Similar wording

like there was a wawa there with and there's iron hill brewery yes a little opening there

Similar wording

where you can go into this courtyardy kind of area is that what we're talking about that is

Similar wording

correct so the iron hill is located so this is love low street right here uh-huh okay and the

Similar wording

iron hill will be i'll give you a better picture of it but it's going to be down this it'll be

Similar wording

down the right here so and is that is that mom is that on 11th or the iron hill is i just want

Similar wording

to get my map that's the the building in the back there i think is the was that the reading that the

Similar wording

what is it it's not the reading terminal but the love low the love low apartments i know

Similar wording

no i'm talking about in the very back there that's on the other side of market street

Similar wording

so this courtyard here is looking right out onto market correct

Similar wording

Yeah. So there's a, I guess it's like an opening, but I don't think too many people go back there too much. But okay. But I think this view, the, where the Wawa used to be on market would be to the left, and the Iron Hill would be to the right.

Similar wording

So I don't know where the Wawa used to be.

Similar wording

it was right on the corner of like the market where the iron hill is which is right here where

Similar wording

my cursor is me vita is to my back directly behind me from where this picture was taken

Similar wording

ah okay so putting it this way looking at let me get you a better shot of this

Similar wording

right here this is the entrance to me vita iron hill is now to my back

Similar wording

ah okay all right okay just just because i know there's a whole like courtyard area

Similar wording

just trying to figure out where this was actually going to be okay all right the questions from the

Similar wording

board thank you thank you questions or comments from our attorney hillary emberson

Similar wording

not at this time mr chair questions or comments from the virtual audience

Similar wording

yes chair i have a hand up by the name of charles norman they have been allowed to speak

Similar wording

wasn't he before he was one of the witnesses yeah i was trying to answer the question about the uh

Similar wording

where that was located but you guys got through it okay thank you i appreciate it uh any other

Similar wording

questions or comments from the virtual audience i see no hands at this time chair planning commission

Similar wording

of Ron Bednar City Planning. The property is indicated for commercial mixed use on a city plan.

Similar wording

Proposed restaurant use will have no more of an impact that would be expected given its intended

Similar wording

location. Therefore, we recommend that the granting the requested eating and drinking

Similar wording

establishment special exception. Thank you, Ron. Council, as soon as we receive the signed lease,

Similar wording

we'll put it up for a vote okay i'll get that over to you right away probably be next next

Similar wording

wednesday okay you'll have it first thing uh tomorrow 2 2 p.m next wednesday thank you very

Similar wording

much mr chairman thank you okay here we go

Similar wording

Thank you.

Similar wording

Okay, here we go.

Similar wording

Number 10, MI 2024-005-498-2337-41 South Alder Street.

Similar wording

Brandon Saverin is the attorney.

Similar wording

Non-opposition from Lower Moy Mencing Civic Association

Similar wording

and a letter of non-opposition from Council Member Squilla.

Similar wording

Brandon Saverin has been promoted to penalist.

Similar wording

Good afternoon, counsel. Could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer?

Similar wording

Yes, my name is Brandon Saverin. That's spelled B-R-A-N-D-O-N. And then S is in Sam, A, V is in Victor, R-A-N is in Nancy.

Similar wording

Where are you from to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

Similar wording

Yes, I do.

Similar wording