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ZBA Hearing - December 10, 2025

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Dec 10, 20256h 33m

that you're using for this proposed apartment building?

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Sure.

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We wanted to kind of work with the fabric of the community

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as far as the materials are concerned.

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There's a lot of brick on the surrounding buildings.

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You could see on our proposed structure,

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we're proposing a brick for two stories

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along the front facade to kind of align

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with what what the streetscape is the majority of it um on our third story uh we and and some of the

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remainder of the building we're kind of uh giving a nod to the industrial roots of the of the area

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um with the uh corrugated metal you're seeing that on some buildings that that surround as well

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So we've intentionally set that back, at least on the front facade there, so that, you know, the street escape, the height of the streetscape is kind of consistent everywhere.

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We also have the entire building set back with a front yard.

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So we're really trying to kind of, you know, be, not be invasive with our building.

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And the building makes kind of an L shape.

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we have surface parking as you can see some covered some uncovered towards the

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rear it's actually covered parking so you could see here Garden Street is

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towards our northwest in this view so yeah the building is in an L shape we've

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Yeah, the building is in an L-shape.

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We've been sensitive to, we did light studies to make sure that we weren't going to be affecting the surrounding neighbors with our building and our mapping.

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been sensitive to we did light

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Chris, we're over those shadow studies, but specifically from a design perspective, you moved the building away from, our building, proposed building, away from the residential buildings that, if you're facing Garden Street or to the right of us.

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Is that correct?

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That's correct, yes.

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And then there is a side yard setback.

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And do you remember how wide it is, the setback we are, from the property to the right of us?

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The property to the right of us, I believe there's a mention on there.

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I think we're close to 35 feet or so.

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I actually looked at it beforehand.

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I believe it's 41 feet, right?

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Okay, yeah, that sounds about right.

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Yep.

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Where the building code requires eight feet.

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Correct.

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So we just want to be mindful of the fact that we are next to residential properties, but we figured that we're not impacting the ICMX property in any way.

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Is that correct?

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That's correct.

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All right.

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So let's go over here.

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You kind of were going to where the parking is and that we're covered here.

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So there are some spots under here that you couldn't see from the rendering.

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Is that correct?

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Yes, that's correct.

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I'm sorry.

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Okay, yeah, so the portion on the left, you can see there's kind of a dashed line.

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That indicates the footprint above, so those spaces would be covered.

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We also have Class 1A bike storage up against the building, kind of tucked out of sight for security, and it's covered from the elements.

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And that's right here, the 19 parking spots, right?

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Correct.

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And it's two-way parking here.

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Do you remember the width of the parking aisle?

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We're 22 feet, whereas the minimum allowed is 18 feet.

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So we're in compliance.

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Okay.

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And then right here on point down, I don't know if you see my screen.

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I do.

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I can see.

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So what's this here?

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So that's our landscape buffer, our required landscape buffer from the residential zone.

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So we've followed the requirements of the landscape requirements and are providing the shade trees and shrubs that are required in that area.

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But most importantly, providing a buffer to that residential property, that's the right of us.

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That's correct, yes.

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And do you remember how wide it is, like towards the most extreme portion of our lot as we go back?

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We're a little over 30 feet in the wider part.

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okay uh and then so let's just let's drive through here um so we would see parking you know both

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ways a few handicapped spots right and you know and where where's the trash beans then this is

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the first story of the building so if you know if you park here uh there's a little walkway too

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right in front of the building correct yes there is there's a there's a a sidewalk that runs along

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the front of the building um yeah from a safety perspective then it's good because someone is not

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just going to go run straight into a lobby there's actually a walkway for for pedestrian access

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that's correct all right and then here's the lobby and here's the mail room and you know you

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have three commercial units here one two and three and this is where the mechanicals are

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Do we have basement use here?

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We haven't determined that yet.

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There won't be any use down there.

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It'll depend on what the geotech report comes back with when we get to construction documents

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to determine whether we do basement or crawl space.

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Okay, but the point is there's no living in the basement.

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Correct.

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Absolutely not.

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Yes, and we would agree to a proviso of no living in the basement so the board can feel

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comfortable with this type of project.

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and then here's the trash room as well right correct and then yeah we i'm sorry we relocate

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as a you know in hearing some feedback from the neighbors we we had originally had it in that

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parking zone um for access uh in the parking lot however uh it sounded like it was preferred by

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the neighbors to bring an interior and then a maintenance crew will will bring them out we have

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a 40-foot loading area that we show on the plan there where a trash truck would pull up against

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the curb, collect the trash. Gotcha. So this loading area right here is for temporary loading

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for the trash. Okay. And then I guess this is a better view. I probably should have done this

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first. But we have also the front yard too, right? To provide a little bit more greenery in the front,

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right that's correct hi uh did i miss anything in here i don't think so and then you know this

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and then you know this is the second level of the building with the apartment and again according to

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is the second level of the building with the apartment

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my records there and i think you have a breakdown somewhere i i have it here if you want me to

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mention it would you say it and we'll go and we expand it's really hard to say so you have every

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version of the floor plans we have on a separate page so we can go through them but um what's it

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how many one bedrooms so yeah we have we have a mixture of one bedroom and two bedroom mostly

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two bedrooms um the two bedrooms we have 16 total uh they're roughly about they average about 800

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square feet so they're they're nice size two bedrooms um the one bedrooms we have eight total

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and they are closer to 500 square feet gotcha and then each floor has its own trash room too right

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that's correct all right and then there's there's a janitorial closet as well because we expect some

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type of on-site management or access right correct and then you have two you have three sets of

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staircases one two and then three right correct yeah and then what's i can't read this what i'm

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pointing here i it's so small what what's an elevator elevator shaft that's right and by the

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way we have a only a three-story building with an elevator too um so even though originally we had

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five stories you know based on the previous configuration this project the owner is keeping

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the elevator as part of this project right correct all right so again if you have an elevator and

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it's built basically on grade the first floor unit actually never strike that um all right so and

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then this is the third story and then we can kind of go through like the actual apartments themselves

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and there's uh the roof deck right is is it for living is there is it for the residents or not

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no we've removed that as part of our um response to the rco there's no community communal roof

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deck it would be you know mechanical access only so we do have one stairwell extending up but that

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would be for maintenance use only gotcha all right and then uh just for the board to know like

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So this used to be a manufacturer of painting materials, and it was the Keystone Refining Company.

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And that's why we're calling it Keystone Flats, just so they understand.

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And this is part of your inspiration, too, in terms of the materials, right?

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Yes, that's correct.

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These are some nearby buildings.

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The original building that's still on site on the top left, so the shape and form of that we've kind of used in our facade.

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and then the materials you're seeing are some neighboring houses

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and commercial buildings that have corrugated metal

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and then the bricks that we used and incorporated.

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And this is the rendering we saw before that kind of puts it all together.

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Correct.

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Yeah, and in terms of safety and light in there,

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the intention is to have like a metal gated type of like fencing

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with interspersed with some columns, brick columns, right?

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that's correct all right and that's uh just i guess from across the street angle of what

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you're saying there yep and then same thing just a little further uh all right and then this is

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more of an aerial view kind of showing how we're setting ourselves back in terms of landscaping

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and i believe again this is 41 feet here where eight feet would be required we're trying to be

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landscape be respectful of the other prop residential properties here um and again to hug

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the other commercial industrial property here rather than getting anywhere close in terms of

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building structure is that right that's exactly right yes all right and then you did do a shadow

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study to see what shadow effect this three-story building would have and is this study based on

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the five-story building or the three-story building this we revised it for the three-story

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um so uh on the top the top three models are in the extreme uh summer solstice time frame where

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the sun is highest and uh azimuth is the highest um so you see an 8 a.m 2 p.m and 6 p.m example

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6 p.m having the longest shadows um you could see they they they uh shade away from the the

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nearby residential home so it will have no effect on their landscapes or gardens or anything like

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that. So the only thing you're shadowing essentially here in the 6 p.m. is the parking lot?

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Correct. And then what about the winter? Yeah, so the winter is a slightly different sun angle.

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We have the same time frame. We didn't go to 6 p.m. We have 4 p.m. because by 6 it's dark as we

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know now as we're in the middle of winter. But you can see the shadows that are similarly

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ineffectual to the neighboring residential. The 8 a.m., you can see actually

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their shadow is almost almost hitting our building and then 2 p.m it's directly behind

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2 p.m. it's directly behind our building and then 4 p.m. it's even further behind our building so

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our building and then 4 p.m it's even further behind our

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gotcha all right and then these are just some interior shots of what you think the

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the property is going to look like i mean yeah we wanted we wanted to give some idea of the quality

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and and um finish level of the the apartments we want these to be nice high-end apartments for

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people and then that's just another angle of what is going on here and then these are just basically

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the building's heights like the elevation showing that we're now going to be 35 feet

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six inches um and uh i guess just a different look of it compared to the neighborhood

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and same thing here and i guess same here all right so now we're going to go through the floor

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plan how let me ask you how much longer do you think you have because we're going to do a

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resumptive hearing for this and i have a lot of people that's in the audience so how about this

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if we're going to do a resumptive hearing

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I don't think we have to go over the floor plans

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we can

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we ask the board members

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what they want to see

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so Hillary what my thoughts were

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how many people in the audience are here to testify

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so

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Hillary what I'd like to do is

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maybe the board when we do the resumptive hearing

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ask their questions

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and then we'll go to the audience now

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for the two minute piece

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and that way we'll at least keep fairly good time

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all right well let me just try to get my client yeah sure yeah yeah i can step aside you could

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do that thank you all right yeah maybe sworn in would you please state your name and spell for

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the stenographer all right do you swear or i'm sorry here part part of the microphone all right

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i hear you i hear you but all right good one more time my name is gentian kadriu g-e-n-t-i-a-n

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last name k-a-d-r-i-u right do you swear or firm to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but i

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do so uh mr kudru you heard everything i had to state so far about your zoning matter

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is it true and correct yes and do you adopt this your own testimony yes all right thank you very

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much um people in the audience could you put up your hand and we come up and we'll we'll try to

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take as much testimony as we can i got about another 10 minutes for the case

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pardon me

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I know but I don't think I'm going to get to that Hillary

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hi could you please state your name and spell it for the stenographer

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good afternoon chairman and board members my name is Michelle Minch

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it's M-I-C-H-E-L-L-E

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Minch M-I-N-C-H

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do you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth

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yes I do

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and are you a neighbor

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yes I am

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so what we do is we try to give you

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two minutes and try to get all your thoughts out. Then we're going to try to get as many people up

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here as possible. I did send a letter. We have it. Okay. I just wanted to use then, I guess,

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my two minutes to bring up points that Mr. Newscom just brought up that I don't think are entirely

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true. One, his photos are not to scale. It's not a two-lane street and there's only parking on one

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side. It's made to appear a lot larger in his photos than it is. Two, the phase one study that

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said for environmental that was like over a thousand pages it's not it's like 116 and on

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the first page it says they did absolutely no environmental testing was done no soil samples

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no paint samples they actually did like a walkthrough no actual testing was done that was

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noted as one of my major concerns as it was a lead paint factory and the building based on its age

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