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ZBA Hearing - October 15, 2025

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Oct 15, 20255h 11m

No, I don't have one.

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Let's see, I've extended.

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so Kevin why don't we do this

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if you're having a hard time

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why don't you maybe go in the back

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and figure out what's going on

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we'll bring you back

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thank you

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Sure.

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Number one.

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MI 2024-004-415-5338 Walnut Street.

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George Gossett, Jr. is the attorney for the owner.

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There's a letter of support from the West Philadelphia Economic Development Council.

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and council member got the a has sent a letter indicating that they had no well okay we we

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believe that we do have that good morning can you hear me yes i can sir could you please turn on

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your video. Yep. Good morning. Good morning. Could you please state your name and spell for

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the stenographer? Yep. Attorney George Gossett Jr., Supreme Court number 82983. I'm the attorney

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of Brick by Brick Properties, which is owned by Nafisa Woodlock. All right. Do you swear or affirm

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to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Our board secretary, Cheryl L. Gaston, has a few questions for you, sir.

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Very good.

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Good morning, counsel. Did you submit your documents to the Zoning Board five days in advance of this year?

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Good morning, counsel.

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Good morning.

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Did you submit your documents to the...

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I do. I do.

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And do you waive the reading of the refusal and stipulate to its accuracy?

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I do.

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Thank you. Counsel, you may proceed and share your screen.

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So this is a appeal of a variance, variance refusal of dated June 16, 2024.

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My client became the owner of the property by deed dated March 20, 2024.

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24. As was already stated, there was an RCO meeting in which the RCO found that they were in favor of the project. The long and short of this is this is a property 53, 55.

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So, counsel, why don't you share your screen?

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Okay, I'm sorry. I'll go.

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Yeah, sure, sure. Share your screen and then you can.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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i'm just looking at how to okay here we go all right

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you're coming up now it should be up in a minute okay

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Give me one second.

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Thank you.

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Okay, here we go.

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Okay, so this is the subject property.

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53 38 walnut it is uh it was originally purchased as a it was a it is zoned as a single family home

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but it was set up as an actual duplex at the time in which my client purchased the property

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not knowing it not knowing that that it was not properly zoned so it has uh two floors

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I'm showing you pictures now.

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So the second floor has three bedrooms.

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bedrooms, the first floor has two bedrooms.

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So as you can see, there was some work started, but the work stopped when it was determined

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that it was not properly zoned as a duplex.

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What my client is asking is that the property

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can be properly zoned as a duplex

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in which she will rent out the second floor

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as a three-bedroom apartment

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and the first floor

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as a second, as a

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two-bedroom apartment.

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There will be

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street parking

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and there will

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also be a place on the side

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for trash cans.

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Counsel, do you have drawings

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counsel do you have drawings of how it's laid out no we don't we don't have any drawings only

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of how it's laid out?

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thing that we have are actual pictures but it's just two two floors the first floor being the

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first floor apartment and the second floor being the the second floor apartment

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and you're saying the second floor has three bedrooms that's correct

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seeing how big the property is the actual square footage yeah um i can check it real quick but i

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believe it's somewhere in the neighborhood probably about um well let me check it i don't

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want i don't want to just just say my client is uh is here also okay well we'll eventually

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bring him on to adopt your test. Yeah. I will check it real quick.

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How about the rest of the block? Is the rest of the block multiple family?

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I am not sure about that. Uh, there are, there are, uh, properties on the block that appear

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to be duplexes, but I don't know what their

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legal setup is.

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So why don't you bring your client on and maybe you could ask them

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a few questions. My client's name is

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Nafisa Woodlock. I think she should be in the

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waiting room.

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Okay.

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I see no one in the audience with that name.

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Oh, never mind.

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And Chairman, to answer your question in terms of the square footage,

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property is 1,440 square feet.

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Let's say that one more time.

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The square footage of the property is 1,440 square feet, sitting on a 1,718 square foot

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line.

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We see the client.

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Yeah, they've been promoted to panelists.

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All right, thank you.

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yes hi could you please state your name as bell for the stenographer

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yes my visa woodlock n-y-f-e-e-s-a woodlock w-o-o-d-o-o-c-k you swear or firm to tell

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truth told truth nothing but the truth yes please proceed counsel good morning mr whatlock

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there was a question pertaining to um

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the actual uh block itself are you familiar if there are any other um

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duplexes on that block um far as that block i believe i can see that there's one i know the

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next hundred. There are a lot of triplexes and duplexes on the next hundred. The property I have

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is also the next street is a corner store there. And then I know directly across from my property

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is also, I believe, a home daycare. Okay. All right. And I've already expressed this to the

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panel, but with regards to the apartments, you plan to do a three-bedroom apartment on the second

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floor and a two-bedroom apartment on the first floor? Yes, keeping the existing structure that

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I purchased it as. Okay. And what is your plan with regards to parking and with regards to

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trash pickup? Well, there's street parking. And then if you look at the picture that's on the

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side where the gates are, those are where I'll have two designated trash cans for trash day.

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Okay. And with regards to tenants,

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tenants? Would this be for low income tenants or what is your mindset with regards to your tenants?

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I think I'm open to low-income tenants or regular tenants. I haven't really decided on that part yet. I'm sure that's going to be another process as far as getting into this point.

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I think I'm open to low income tenants.

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With regards to the utilities, how are the utilities set up at this point?

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It's electric there.

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Are the units separated?

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yes everything is um split there and was that the the condition that the property was in at

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the time which you purchased it yes because i believe someone was already the person was living

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um they had to build them for some years now they were already living upstairs and i guess they

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couldn't you know afford to finish the rest of it and they just sold the whole property

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okay all right everything is split it um all right all right okay questions from the board

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uh go ahead go ahead okay uh living in the basement no living in the basement

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no living in the basement uh it's a little hard to understand how you have a three-bedroom and

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a two-bedroom when you've only got 1,400 square feet. Without a plan, it's kind of hard to

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see both those size units working in 1,400 square feet. So that's kind of my issue.

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The units, actually, it's not really crammed in there. Everything is a pretty decent

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size

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I mean that's

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really all I can kind of say

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about that

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those are my

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just two comments

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and my comments

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are the same

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we can't tell

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from what you say

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what is going on here

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is there any more

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pictures because it's also like

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No, the pictures are not helping.

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We need to see a plan, a layout of how this is laid out so that we can tell what is really being proposed here.

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So we'll hold the vote on this.

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Yeah.

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But is there any other questions from the board?

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hillary what what what i would like to do with this is to close it except for plans

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okay right i i i did have a question so the the property zoned rsa3 which requires off

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street accessory parking but i didn't see a refusal for that is there parking at the property

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no no there's not okay all right so that refusal was missing i just wanted to note that for the

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record but we can i think we can go to the virtual audience and get to planning right

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all right questions or comments from the virtual audience i do not see any hands mr chair questions

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or comments from the planning commission thank you chairman and good morning david fecto f-e-c-t-e-a-u

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with the city planning commission do you swear or affirm to tell the truth told truth nothing but

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the truth yes sir i do please proceed thank you sir chairman and board members the comprehensive

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plan recommends no change to the rsa3 residential single family zoning at this location the city

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changed the zoning maps in this neighborhood in 2022 in accord with recommendations in the

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comprehensive plan in february 2006 an owner applied for a use variance for two dwelling units

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for this property there is no evidence that the zoning board granted that variance at that time

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after this an owner appears to have converted this property into two dwelling units without

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the benefit of permits so the city planning commission recommends the board grant the

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proposed legalization of two dwelling units and proposed uh variance for uh for off-street

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accessory parking okay so we're going to hold the vote on this and um i'm going to close close the

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record except for drawings that would uh appropriately show the first and second floor

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and you know obviously we would want to see what kind of space the bedrooms etc are okay

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so um hillary should we give this like three weeks um sure we can do that that would be

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give me one second mr chair that would be november 5th okay so so cancel november 5th at 9 30

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okay so so council november 5th at 9 30 uh we'll vote on this but we'll have to have

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uh we'll vote on this

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the documents you know prior because we'd want to look at them in

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executive session before we vote okay okay very good all right thank you very much all right thank

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you george you ready for me oh i'm sorry yeah kevin i'm sorry kevin

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As long as it works.

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Please proceed, sir.

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And just for the record, this is 6617 Alguard Street.

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Kevin Valentine is the attorney.

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We were talking about the bamboo fence, and I'm just trying to pop up a picture of that.

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Well, we want your whole presentation up.

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and

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here's my appeal application

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it's not

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yes please please please

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there we go

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is this, this is what I want to share. Okay.

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Okay. All right. And then I'm going to share that.

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Okay. We know you're, we have your application for appeal. Yes. Okay.

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We move on. All right. Would you like to see the refusal?

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We have it. We're okay with the refusal as long as you're comfortable with it.

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Yes. I'm comfortable with all of that. Yes. All right. So

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So here, take this out.

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Well, then should we go back to the photo that you were referencing?

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Sure.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Let's go back to that.

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Here we go.

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Okay.

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all right this is the um photograph that you were referring to the original photograph

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Yes.

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You can see that?

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Right, okay.

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And now we're moving on to the later photograph.

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Let me see if I can bring that up.

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This is the photograph that you were referring to, the fencing, right.

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