Right, on-premises.
And is that what you're proposing to continue to do?
Where there is, again, I don't see it, David, maybe it could be helpful.
Where in the plan does it show where that work will take place?
And what do you do about noise and air pollution?
Exhaust systems or whatever.
Chelsea, right now you have the showroom shown at the second floor front.
And then you have this area down here that's shown also for that unit.
Is this the area where the fabrication would take place?
Right now, just the showroom area that we see showing.
On the upper floor, but on the ground floor is below that where your showroom is right now.
Is that where you would plan on doing fabrication if this project is approved?
No, not on the showroom area.
we right now we're doing that for vacation in the bed of the building where
the parking area is yes you know I'm going to show I'm going to show them
pictures hold on one second 15 sorry but so there's the question of now
here we go. So this is the back. So coming in, Chelsea, can you, this is the view from
inside towards the front. This is the front of Washington Avenue at the bottom of page
five, correct Chelsea? Correct. And as you, this is looking in from the front at the
Correct.
And as you, this is looking in from the front at the top of page six, where it says first ground floor.
That is, you can see that's from the front looking towards the rear, correct?
And then this is the area back here that you're talking about, which is towards the rear, middle and rear, where the fabrication is taking place presently, correct?
Yes, correct.
You can see on page 9 of the exhibit book, the slabs that are there, okay?
So the question again, Chelsea, that the board is asking is that when you
look at the floor plan that we have right now. As of right now, if we get
approval on this we not do the fabrication on the on this site on this
side will move the application to different location and we're just
keeping the showroom area and it'll be just showroom and display no
manufacturing no cutting of marble granite or anything yes yes correct so we
could agree we could agree to if there if this appeal is approved or granted if
is granted by the board we would be agreeable to approach though to modify the application
that there not be any fabric on-site manual fabrication or manufacturing yeah just that
we are limited to sales and display of materials right again storage but no no fabrication right
no fabrication okay um do you have any more on that
I like that
Currently yes
Can you hear me
I can agree with that
I heard you
I didn't hear what was that
I'm sorry
Repeat that for Dave please
Yes, I can agree to a proviso, no fabrication on the site.
And again, Jenny Wan is on the phone and she can answer any other questions that go.
I don't want to belabor the point.
I think it's a pretty well-documented floor plan that lays out where everything is and where the units are.
And David, I'm sorry, this is Tanya.
Can we have your client spell her name for all parties?
Oh, thank you.
Chelsea, please spell your first and last name for the recording and for the recorder.
My name is Chiaozhen Huang, spelled as a Q-I-A-O-Z, as a zebra, H-E-N, last name H-U-A-N-G.
So it's as it appears on the Zoom call display, correct?
to the stenographer were you able to get that
well we'll assume she got it at the moment if not we'll address that david are you uh
have you completed your uh portion not not quite yet okay i'm not rushing it no i understand so
Do you swear for them to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?
Please spell your name for the stenographer.
My name is Jenny Wan, J-E-N-N-Y, last name W-A-N.
Jenny, that's how your name appears on the Zoom.
The spelling appears on the Zoom window is the correct spelling.
I can't see my screen, but I believe so.
Thank you.
And, Jenny, you prepared the original submission drawings, correct?
You're going to have to speak up a little.
I'm actually having problems here.
I don't know about everybody else.
Okay, thank you.
And you prepared the revised zoning drawings in the floor plans that were just presented to the zoning board, correct?
And at exhibit 13 of the exhibit book, which is page 59 of part 2, is the PDF, you also prepared shadow studies, or shadow studies prepared, comparing our proposed revised design to a buy-write I-2 design at the subject property, correct?
And that by right design that you show in terms of the shadowing of the building. Now, granted, all of our dimensional variances have been eliminated.
So we no longer have a far refusal. So we're really just talking about use. But real quickly, in terms of the by right industrial building, what was the height of that building that you use
original or no the by right proposed design that you have let's say at the lower part of your
exhibit books where it's just a box you have a far of 500 so it's a five five story building
but how many how tall is it 60 feet 65 feet
give me a second
we are 68 feet to the roof and it's and it's and it's true that the building because it's i2 is
only limited by far that there's no limit to the floor to ceiling heights as long as there's no
more than five full floors and it could be taller than that it could be 20 foot floor to ceiling
heights and it could be 100 feet tall building correct yes okay and but we you kept it to a
reasonable floor to ceiling height when you prepared this similar to the floor
and ceiling heights of the proposed building, correct? Yes. Okay. And just so
we know, and you can see that in the revised proviso plan forum that I showed
to the board, that originally the height of the building that the seven-story
building that you designed was 79 feet eight inches tall to the primary roof
and 89 feet eight inches tall to the top of the pilot house roof. And we've now
reduce the overall height of the structure to six stories and 68 feet in height, correct?
Sorry, let me just get back to that. In terms of the shadowing studies, what is your conclusion
regarding the, what do the shadow studies show in terms of comparing our revised design
um per the request of the community and the neighbors versus a by right limited floor to
ceiling height industrial use is the shadowing greater pretty much the same can you go through
the differences if any um well it's less shadowing after we set the building with the setback
and if you could see that design A is what we designed and then design B is if the building was
straight up instead of having any setback and you could see that on at 12 o'clock that would be the
clear. So here's the shadowing on Kimball Street with our proposed design and the by right
reasonable floor-to-ceiling height industrial is shown here so the by right industrial is a little
bit more into the opposite side. I think if everybody looks at the other shadows and compares
them, they're relatively similar or don't impact Kimball Street. And then in terms of the building
here, I think again, I mean, Jenny, here, is this the shadowing of the building on the Kimball
Street properties with the revised design? And I'm now showing design A, 12 p.m. Yeah, this is the
Okay, this is the winter, December 21st.
Yes, so the sun is lower. So that's why I case like the shadows.
Right. But this is what I'm circling right now, which is the dark portions of the buildings.
The buildings are all white, but there's a darker portion. And what I'm circling right now is the shadowing directly across the street and the lower portion.
and the lower portion on the south facing fronts of the building directly across the streets from
on the fronts of the southeast
us with our proposed revised design, correct? Yes. And then what I'm circling here is showing
whereas in the proposed design at 12 p.m., that shadowing only extends across the portion of the
roofs of the buildings across the street, but the by-right, again, not as tall as it could be,
but the shadowing extends completely over the roofs, correct? Yes. Okay, and that's design B
at 12 p.m., correct? Yes. And similar at 3 p.m., we see the shadowing with design A,
the revised design at 3 p.m. above. You see some portions of buildings that are
completely shadowed, some that are not, and all of those buildings are now
shadowed below with the by right I-2 building, correct? Yes.
And these are just different angles. The first two sheets are from the southwest,
correct yes and the second two sheets are from the southeast correct yes and
your conclusions are the same regarding the shadowing that generally that well
not generally that the by right i2 building shadows more than our building
correct yes okay thank you again just real quickly for the board normally I'd
have exhibits held up. This is the existing building, the existing signage, flat wall sign,
awning sign, protecting sign. This sign here is to be removed. This sign here is to be removed.
A similar awning as you see to the left. It says Philly Home Supply is to be placed over the
right-hand showroom window. Again, I'm circling the smaller square sign over the garage door
opening that's being removed it says quartz countertop and I'm circling the
Philly home supply the longer rectangular sign over the eastern side
of the building is being removed the projecting sign will remain this is our
existing buildings here you have one curb cut here right in front of the
garage door opening and then on the eastern side of the building another
existing curb cut that garage opening has been already sealed with storefront
glass but this proposal i mean people may park there already because it doesn't look like
anybody's going to be driving in and out but this proposal will fill in that curb cut on the east
side in front of where the philly home supply sign is and that will be fully restored to available
on street parking so the property to the east of us or to the west of us it long existing curb cut
the lion's share of the property, cell tower right behind us. This is that scene at the top of page
two of the photo exhibit. You'll see that property to the west of us, and then it turns into a
structure, that two-story structure that extends all the way up to Washington Avenue and over to
21st Street. That building is used at least in part as a drug and as a rehabilitation facility.
Bottom of page two is a view to the west on our side, the north side of Washington Avenue.
Top of page three is, and the bottom of page three is a 2101 site that has been cleared, that is coming before you next week.
Again, and Mr. Whelan can surely speak to that because I believe he's presenting that case.
That does include a residential, amongst other variance requests, I believe does require a residential use variance.
The bottom of page four is the residential development project at 25th and Washington on the northwest corner that I referenced.
That's pretty far along in construction and has indicated in the 2035 plan.
This was originally slated in the 2035 plan as ICMX, not IRMX.
And even in any event, it looks like it's no industrial at all, and it looks like it's residential and commercial.
South side of Washington to the west, again, non-residential uses, curb cuts up and down the block.
This is Caliber, which is on the west end of the south side of the 2000 block.
You see a large curb cut.
Curb cuts, garage doors across the street.
This is at the top of page six.
And then extending to the east, again, non-residential curb cuts with large garage doors interspersed on the south side of the block.
This is further, this photo top of the page.
This is further, this photo top of page seven, the top is further to the east on the south side until you can see until all the way you get, I think the board's familiar, plenty familiar with Washington Avenue, until you get down to the Marine Club, which I'm circling, which is a large tan structure, taller tan structure, all the way at the far end of the photograph.
It's all non-residential, playgrounds, commercial, until you get to residential to the end.
The bottom of page seven is a view to the east on the north side, largely non-residential, commercial, industrial.
And then the target building that was, I think, Lincoln Square that was developed on the northwest corner of Broad and Washington.
that zoning class had been changed for that property.
It's not zoned industrial, it's zoned CMX.
And then closer views.
This is the rest of our block of the 20-hundred block of Washington Avenue on page eight.
Again, you can see curb cuts up and down the block.
On our side, garage doors, restaurant.
This is the property right next to us.
That building itself has a curb cut and a roll-up garage door.
and a restaurant which is obviously a non-industrial use even though the properties are
industrial and here are those two at the top of page nine are two existing curb cuts
this is the building the two-story building at the northeast corner this is the bottom photograph of
page nine um it is um you know as i indicated it's two-story building and um
and utilized. If you were to zoom in, there's a, I believe, a Jefferson sign on the door.
This is that building on the east side of 21st Street, showing the non-residential use,
parking, curb cuts, parking lot. This is a southeast corner of 21st and Kimball. Cell tower,
non-residential use in the top photograph. The view from 21st Street, showing Kimball Street
heading towards 20th Street. As you can see, as I've stated, parking on the south side of the
street, very narrow cartway, difficult, pretty difficult for cars to get down, and pretty much,
as you can see, physically very difficult, if not impossible, for anything larger than a car,
wider than a car to get down. Page 12, the top, you see the adjacent property to the west of us,
stone wall masonry wall and this is the back of our building at the bottom of page 12 existing
roll up to work that's presently there blocked up windows original design had the window
configuration at a different different way the community asked that we simply open up
these existing openings and restore them with some type of window glazing and we agreed to
make that change the existing roll up door which would be our proposed exit on the kimball street
the existing curb cut at Kimball Street and this is that's on page 13 page 14
shows the top shows the back of our building and then the photograph 14 15
and 16 show the properties to the east of us where again I mentioned earlier
zone residential use for residential use and starting at page 17 you see the
north side of the 20-hundred block at Kimball, residential. Bottom of 17 of