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ZBA Hearing - November 16, 2022

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Nov 16, 20224h 55m

does make it quite challenging.

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However, again, providing for an adaptive reuse.

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Additionally, it's got a location close to a lot of transit,

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which is beneficial from a residential perspective.

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And again, most of this area, as you can see,

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even is struggling with just single-family home, multifamily uses, but that's mostly what the area

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is zoned for. We met with, let's see, we met with APM. This goes into more detail about, you know,

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the city's plan, both Riverward's plan and the Lower North District plan, both kind of stating

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that there should be allowances in consideration for industrial conversions. I also did see an

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article the other day that Philadelphia is outpaced almost every other city for preserving

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industrial buildings with an adaptive reuse. So I thought that was a nice note given some of the

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other stuff Philadelphia gets slammed for. Additionally, like I said, it's surrounded

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by all residential and a large vacant city-owned lot. And more photos of the building and the

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zoning posters that we have. See, as you can see, Chairman, part of the building is different in

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size. Yep. And as you can see, it's fallen into quite disrepair over the years of not having a

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use in it. The refusal we got for parking, we'd have to demo part of the structure to be able to

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provide additional parking. We are utilizing the space that we have in the building for 10

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parking spaces, so we are providing parking, but we would have to demolish portions of the structure

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to be able to fit 30-some-odd parking spaces. We met with APM back on the 16th. Oh, no,

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that's today's date. We met with APM back on the 3rd of November. We submitted the letters and

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certification of the letters to the near neighbors. There were 79 letters sent out, and we have a

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letter of support from APM. They were really happy about us

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rehabilitating the structure. They also liked that we were doing

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multifamily, providing, you know, some screening related to

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security and lighting for the property, as they had mentioned

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that there was some concerns in the neighborhood about vacant

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buildings and vacant land and not having lighting and people on

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the street and eyes on the street. They also liked the idea

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of the commercial space, but requested that we set aside some

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space for community gatherings which we have incorporated into the revised plans um and you

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know again we're really happy because this has been an eyesore um and we're supportive of the

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project especially because it does provide workforce housing units that's just what this

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developer does um but and is not obtaining any bonuses or anything to do that's just part of

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their plan i'm going to um send it over to ray rola who's our architect just so he can go through

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the plans as I'm not an architect. And I just want to make note that we did submit a proviso

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plan form where we added south-facing elevation. We reduced the commercial space on the ground

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level to add some room for the community space. We deleted the floor plans of the upper floor,

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enlarged the floor plans, ground level, and additional detail that was requested of us

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for parking loading in a trash room, and deleted some other things on the prior plans that were

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not relevant. So we do have four pages of stamp plans submitted to the board with this proviso.

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What's your architect's name? Ray Rolla.

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Mr. Rolla, please unmute yourself and wait. He's coming back in as a panelist here.

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Fine, that's fine. Hi, could you state your name, please, and spell for the court reporter?

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Ray, are you able to unmute yourself?

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Ray, are you able to unmute?

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Yes, now I did.

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Hi, could you state your name and spell for the court reporter, please?

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Raymond Rola, R-O-L-A.

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Do you swear for him to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Proceed, counsel.

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ray are you able to share your screen or would you like me to do so just to go through the plans

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um uh yeah why don't you you share your screen and i'll go through it okay

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make sure okay the board see that

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yes okay i also want to point out for uh member holloman board member holloman that there is

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no basement that we're using as well thank you council that should be a benefit absolutely

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so ray uh can you see my screen i have the elevations up and the site plan um yes i can

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see uh z1 which you have on your screen and z1 is the site plan that basically identifies the

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different parts of the building uh there are basically two main parts uh it was actually

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probably added to at some point but there there's a four-story portion that is only it's four

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stories because we deleted part of a floor to make bi-levels it was five stories and then there's the

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the true high ceiling five-story portion that wraps around it um and then there's a two-story

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portion over here and you can see there's three uh overhead doors in the back underneath the

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L. And one of them is for trash storage. Trash storage is inside and you'll see that on the

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next sheet. And yeah, you can go to the next sheet then. So we have a loading zone that's

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also used for trash pickup and a trash room that is accessible from every floor. We'll

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have a trash room that will bring the trash down to the lower level and then taking out

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commercial trash pickup. We have parking. There's two overhead doors kind of on each end and we

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split it up with four parking spaces on one side and five on the other with the ADA accessible

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parking as required by the code. We also have a bicycle storage that you can see here. There's an

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elevator located here basically the main entrance is off of eighth street there is a ada ramp as

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well as stairs that kind of brings you into a porch which was a loading dock at one point

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off of eighth street so it makes a nice entrance we'll be redoing the canopy there there's a large

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lobby space with a with mail room and a wide corridor that leads to a community room

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and also a commercial space that's sort of in the middle of the plan.

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And the rest is really just notes we had to make to comply with the streets department

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turning radiuses. And that's basically it. I also just want to briefly mention for the board and for

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the planning commission that we are including commercial space. So we're not trying to get

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way from trying to request the minimum variances necessary. We are trying to incorporate some of

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the uses required by the base zoning by providing a commercial space as best we can. Do you want

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to have your testimony adopted, counsel? Yes. Is there a Judah Angster on the call?

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If not, chairman. You're an officer of the court. We will take your testimony.

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Yeah, he has his hand raised.

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Hello.

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Hi.

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Hi.

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Could you state your name and spell for the court reporter, please?

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My name is Judah Engster, spelled Y-E-H-U-D-A, last name Engster, A-N-G-S-T-E-R.

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Right.

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Do you swear for him to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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You see, counsel?

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Thank you.

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Judah, have you heard my testimony today?

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Do you believe it to be true and accurate, and do you adopt it as your own?

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I do.

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thank you happy to answer any questions chairman well one quick one rachel what's the history of

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the place i believe it was used i have it's written down i believe it was used for um

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industrial and so it was a last permitted for warehouse and storage but the last

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permit we had on it was from 2004 okay in bacon since at least 2004. okay all right all right

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questions from the board no mr chairman all right questions or comments from the virtual audience

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can't remember I see no hands hi planning commission please

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Okay, I see no hands.

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Hi, Planning Commission, please.

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Thank you, Mr. Bergman and members of the Board, David Fechto, City Planning Commission.

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The Comprehensive Plan recommends a change in the zoning of this property from industrial commercial mixed use to commercial mixed use 3.

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Under that zoning, the residential and commercial units would be allowed by right.

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The City Planning Commission recommends that the Board grant the use and parking variances.

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Thank you.

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MI-2022-003-934-1422-30 North A Street.

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I vote yes.

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Chairman with Proviso for a stamp.

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I'm sorry.

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My mistake.

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Carol Tenere.

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Report Proviso, revised plan, four pages,

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stamped by CBA on November 16, 2022.

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to. Harold Tenere, my vote is yes with Proviso. Thomas Holloman, my vote is yes with Proviso.

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James Snell, my vote is yes with Proviso. Ishmael Shaheed, my vote is yes with Proviso.

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Thank you, counsel. Hey everybody, let's take a five-minute break, give our court reporter a

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chance to regroup, and then we'll be back and we only have a few left, okay?

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Mr. Chair, can we just, I think that was the end of the two o'clock list, can we just make

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sure there's no outstanding. Is there anyone still in the audience whose case has not been called

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for the 2 p.m. list? I see no hands. Hold on. Thank you. Diane Monroe has her hand up. Okay.

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Ms. Monroe, you can unmute yourself or wait for the chair.

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Hi, Ms. Monroe. Could you state your name and spell for the court report, please?

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diane monroe right uh d-i-a-n-e monroe m-o-n-r-o-e i could have fallen asleep

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on this since two o'clock it's 11 28 well listen wait a minute do you swear for him to tell the

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truth the whole truth is nothing but the truth hello you can unmute yourself miss monroe

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okay yes i did in what case were you interested in 1128 mount vernon street i must have went to

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sleep i'm i'm sorry about that we uh we uh that case is over oh god lord was it approved uh it

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was approved with a temporary variance oh wow i fell asleep i've been there i'm sorry

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I'm very sorry

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about that, Ms. Munro.

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All right.

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See everybody in five minutes.

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We can show you how we doing.

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Court Repelter, are you back?

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Yes, ma'am.

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I'm back.

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Thank you for the break.

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Okay.

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LaKeisha, are we ready?

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Yes, Chair.

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Okay.

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Start recording, please.

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And we're recording.

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Yes, sir.

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We're all ready to go.

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Okay.

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Good afternoon.

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My name is Bill Bergman, and I will be chairing this afternoon's 3.30 ZBA hearings.

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With me is Carol Tenere, our Vice Chair. She's here. Ismael Shahid, our Board Secretary.

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Present, Mr. Chairman.

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Thomas Holliman, our Board Member.

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Present, Mr. Chairman.

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And James Snell, our Board Member.

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Present, Mr. Chairman.

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Thank you. Also here is our Board Attorney, Hillary Emerson, and our ZBA Hearing Supervisor, Lakeisha Gandy.

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Before we begin, be advised the proceedings are being recorded.

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By participating, you acknowledge your agreement to be recorded.

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A video will be available by contacting TonyaSunkett at phil.gov.

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For the benefit of our court stenographer, we ask attorneys and witnesses to identify themselves before testifying.

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If you are participating by phone, if you wish to testify, press star 9 to raise your hand and star 6 to unmute.

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to enter an appearance statement call 267-270-5548 leave your email and the address of the property

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in question and finally comments are not to be made to the question answer screen on the on the

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on the to the box on the screen all comments should be directed to our executive director

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Tanya Sunkett. Let's take a look at our continuances for this afternoon. Number one,

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MI 2022-003-546-30 Quinn Street. That case is continued. Number eight, MI 2021-003-593-4829

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Longshore Avenue. That case is also continued. Is there anyone who has a question about those

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two particular cases? I see no hands, Chair. Are there any other requests for continuances?

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Chair, we have Joseph Consul with his hand up. Okay. Mr. Consul, please unmute yourself or wait

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for the chair. Mr. Consul, could you just state your name and spell for the court reporter?

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Yes, I'm Joe Consul.

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That's J-O-S-E-P-H-C-O-N-S-O-L-E.

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Right.

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Do you swear for him to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Mr. Consul, are you talking about 504 North Pleasant Place?

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I am, sir.

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