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ZBA Hearing - April 7, 2021

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Apr 7, 20219h 42m

We have met with the PHA over about four years time as this project was developed.

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We have informed the neighbors of each of those meetings.

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And I'm here to say that we are excited to replace some of the original residents from the community, as well as to grow the community.

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that's it thank you another witness we have nicole nicole please unmute yourself and wait

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for the vice chair hello hi nicole can you put your name on the record and spell your last name

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yes my name is nicole vane stock n-i-c-o-l-e last name v as in victor a y n as in november s-h-t-o-k

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Do you swear if I'm to tell the whole truth and nothing about the truth?

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Yes, I do.

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Okay.

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Please state your, I assume, opposition to this?

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Yes, ma'am.

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Thank you.

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I, my fiancé and I currently are renting at 2515 Ingersoll.

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And I just, in conjunction with everyone else who currently lives on Ingersoll,

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i just wanted to point out that on i feel like unless you live in this direct neighborhood

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um you will the understanding of what we are trying to put out um it's one of those you have

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to see it to understand we the issue is not with what type of housing it is it is just with the

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sheer volume of residents this project would bring in. There's no opposition to bringing in

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additional housing, but you have over 50 units that are one bedroom, two, three. There was a

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four bedroom there. So the understanding is there is going to be over a hundred new residents

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moving to this neighborhood within a three block radius. It's great for neighborhood growth.

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However, consider that Ingersoll is a small yet unusually very busy street.

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Cars come zooming down the street with no regard to anybody on the street.

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You know, I personally have been almost sideswiped by a car trying to run down the road because everyone uses Ingersoll to cut across.

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um on um in the on the 4th of july this past year the peak of the pandemic there were over a hundred

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people on the corner of 25th and ingersoll blasting music and partying for many many hours

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all the way up until two or three o'clock in the morning shooting off fireworks and yes celebrating

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is fun but you this is just this was a party put together by existing residents of the neighborhood

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multiply that by object to this this is completely irrelevant to our it is completely irrelevant

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please let me continue um if you can eliminate that part from it you can continue

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you can unmute yourself

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nicole you can unmute yourself

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Nicole are you there? Yes can you hear me? Yes now I can. I couldn't before.

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nicole are you there yes can you hear me

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yes

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Our concern is that I don't understand why this isn't a thing people are understanding. This

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project aims to bring over a hundred to a hundred people to a three block radius. I don't understand

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how people don't see this as potentially driving up additional traffic, driving up additional noise.

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it's like we we already right now on the corner of this blog there's about 10 to 15 people

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hanging out there which is a daily occurrence there's a new house that just got built there

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and people are already hanging out on that doorstep of a building that's not there they are

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utilizing i'm trying to explain here you know i understand that i live in the city and i

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people are sitting on different people's stoops at all times during have you ever had a hundred

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people on your door and partying until two o'clock do you have anything else why i'll do other than

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this uh chair we can move on okay thank you vice chair sorry vice chair we have megan has been

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unmuted please wait for the vice chair hello hi megan yes can you put your name on and please

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spell your last name uh megan address sorry and your address megan poland m-a-e-g-a-n-p-o-l-a-n-d

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I'm at 2444 Ingersoll Street. Okay. Do you swear to affirm to tell the whole truth and nothing but

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the truth? Yes. Thank you. You may proceed. I just have a quick addendum. My husband spoke earlier

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about the parking lot, and I'll just make this quick, but I just wanted to add the consideration

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that the street is incredibly narrow, and if people are utilizing that parking lot from other

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streets, that does create, I think, a concern in terms of the traffic on such a narrow street.

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it's one lane um you know and and so that's one of our our concerns about having that park parking

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lot located there specifically thank you thank you so much madam chair we're finished with witnesses

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at this time okay meredith madam chair i will be as brief as i can try and respond to as many of

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these things as i can um first just a general note i think you've heard that most of the concerns here

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surrounding the project overall, meaning the project that has been planned over the course

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of many, many years, and not necessarily the specific refusals that are before this board

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today. As far as density is concerned, this proposal is less dense than would be permitted

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by right on these lots. And I would be happy to bring our witnesses back up to testify to that,

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but I can represent to you that by right, you could build nearly double the number of units

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that are being proposed with this proposal on these same lots. Right. And the parking lot is

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an issue. The narrowness of Ingersoll Street is an issue. Sure. People hanging in the corner is an

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issue. I'm sorry, I missed the corner comment. 10 to 15 people going to 100 people hanging on

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the corner? Nards can be controlled, and they're not zoning related. They are not zoning related.

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You know, I already gave argument about that parking lot. I will also say that it is somewhat,

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you know, it's conflicting, because we have heard a lot of concerns about the parking in the area.

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And in fact, you saw in the photographs that people park on the sidewalks here. And yet,

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if that parking lot were not there it additional units could be built there so you know it's a

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little bit conflicting um just in regards to the commercial you heard testimony about the fact that

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you know the commercial is intended for ridge avenue this is consistent with the planning

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commission's 2014 lower north district plan uh which i do have sections of up on the screen here

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uh you heard where the commercial is going to be focused in fact the lots have now been rezoned and

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the commercial would no longer be required now regarding the parking um again this is responding

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to many years worth of community concern about parking in the area so this is specifically

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responding to that um the parking was also specifically contemplated in the lower north

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district plan in the locations that it is proposed and you can see up on the screen here

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the lower north district plan contemplated parking areas to accommodate

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the Lower North District Plan contemplated parking areas to accommodate this revitalization effort.

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As I mentioned, if the parking were connected to other lots, we wouldn't even be here for that

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refusal. The dimensional refusals are largely de minimis and result from unique PHA design

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considerations, existing lot orientations, or particular code interpretations. None of these

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refusals in any way result from the proposed density. I know somebody did mention that,

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and that is not accurate. These refusals have absolutely nothing to do with the density of

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the proposal today. A full analysis of all of these variances and the hardships is included

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in our memorandum of law at tab 18 as always we submit these are the least minimum variances

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um this will not increase congestion will will actually contribute to mitigating it

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no negative impact will result and will positively impact the neighborhood

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as we hope the board can see this project is a culmination of many years worth of planning

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and many years worth of community input.

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And as the board can see,

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and no disrespect to the new residents to the area,

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but these residents simply were not involved

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in that planning.

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And that is unfortunate.

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But as the board can see,

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this is a lot of stakeholders

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have gone into this project.

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And this simply was not just put together on a whim

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and has really resulted from a lot of stakeholder input

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and do represent unique hardships that are minor and will contribute to long-plan revitalization.

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If I can just have Nick quickly adopt my testimony. Nick Dima, if you can unmute yourself.

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Hi, I'm here.

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Nick, have you heard all of my testimony here today?

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I have.

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and would you agree that any testimony that i've given uh was true and accurate and would you adopt

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that as if it were your own i would thank you thank you planning commission

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miss chair lady yeah i'll i'll get to you next uh tom i just want to hear what the planning

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commission has to say okay thank you good afternoon board peter bernard for the planning commission

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these properties are indicated for multi-family and single-family residential use in the

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comprehensive plan the proposal is consistent with the density allowed under the zoning code

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and the proposed use is consistent with comprehensive and district plans policies

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regarding affordable housing we feel the variances are minimum necessary accordingly we recommend

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approval of these variances thank you um any questions from the board tom i know you do have

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a question. Yes, I have a question, counselor. I have a counselor. I am in agreement that this

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neighborhood certainly could use a lot of new housing. And I think the project that you plan

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out is great. My concern is the parking lot. Well, who will maintain the parking lot? The residents

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or PHA. Ken, are you still on here? Ken Granderson?

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Mr. Granderson, you can unmute yourself and speak. Yes, this is Ken Granderson and PHA will maintain

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the parking lot. As I reiterated with Valk School being across the street and the PHA headquarters

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being within walking distance, this lot will be maintained by PHA. As additional information,

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there's currently a house for sale across from PHA's headquarters valued at over a million dollars

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and that house is using as one of its sale points that PHA maintains the shrubbery,

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the landscaping, and has a lot of people out there picking up trash every, you know,

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weekly. So because we have a vested interest in this neighborhood, PHA is committed to

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his beautification. Okay, so let me understand, PHA hires these people to take care of the

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parking lot? Yes, we have both the in-house crew and we have a subcontractor crew that takes care

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of mulching, grass cutting, etc. Now let me ask you this the lighting is a solo lighting or regular

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lead lighting? It'll be lead lighting which what's defined as cut off so that none of the light

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spills over into anyone else's property. So you'll take care of changing the bulbs? Yes PHA maintains

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So you'll take care of changing the bulbs?

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Yes, PHA maintains the parking lot.

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The parking lot will not be a burden to any of the residences in the neighborhood.

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So you'll take care of snow removal?

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Yes.

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Fencing?

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Yes.

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Abandoned cars?

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Yes.

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Fine, thank you.

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Thank you.

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Does any other member of the board have any questions?

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No.

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No.

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Okay.

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We're all ready to vote.

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Calendar number 2332, 2301 Master Street.

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Calendar number 0660, 2401 Ingersoll Street.

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Calendar number 3314, 2400 Ingersoll Street.

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Calendar number 3386, 2415 Master Street.

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Calendar number 0663, 2418 Master Street.

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calendar number 3132-2421, excuse me, Ingersoll Street, calendar number 3387-2411-Master

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Street, calendar number 0867-2448-Master Street, calendar number 0866-2450-Ingersoll

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street and calendar number one two three eight 2453 ingersoll street excuse me my vote is yes

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yes to all yes to all yes to all sorry you guys thank you madam vice chairman and members of the

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board for your time today oh thank you meredith and thank you darwin be careful

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thank you i know i started choking calendar number 1861-2442 north 54th street the attorney is verne

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anastasio oh could we just take a quick um five minutes we can take a 10 minute break

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that'll be um 625 okay thank you thank you thank you jim we're here yes we're here okay cool

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um i'm gonna call the case again calendar number 1861 2442 north 54th street um mr anastasio can

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you put your name and address on the record and spell your last name sure it's verne anastasio

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A-N-A-S-T-A-S-I-O

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1315 Walnut

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Suite 1006 Philadelphia

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19107

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the whole truth and nothing about the truth?

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I'm already under oath from this morning

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Okay, do you also agree to leave the reading

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of the refusal and stipulate to its accuracy?

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Yes

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Do you email the exhibit packet with proof

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of ownership tax compliance, refusal

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referral, photos and or plans

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five days in advance of this hearing

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and have you met with the RCO

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and do you have a letter?

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Yes, to all that.

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Thank you.

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Please present your case.

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Thank you.

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I'm going to share my screen, okay?

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Okay, great.

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Madam Chair, members of the board, I'm going to open with a brief statement, run through

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my exhibit packet, and then wrap it up, okay?

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Okay, great.

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I know you're on a time constraint.

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Madam Chair, what we're proposing today is something novel. It's a new concept in visitor

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accommodations. My client, Kiteville, is a hospitality company focused on taking formerly

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distressed properties, fully renovating them, and then offering them to visitors for short-term

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or sometimes longer-term bases, whichever fits the needs of the traveler. Unlike Airbnb or the

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CRBO, Kiteville home is professionally managed. It's not managed by the owner, with daily

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housekeeping, round-the-clock maintenance, private sanitation removal, with strictly enforced

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occupancy limits. But like a hotel, all linens and towels are provided and changed on a regular

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basis, and the properties come fully furnished. This model also solves the problem of new

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since rentals because unlike a traditional rental agreement where an owner would rent out a house to

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individuals, there is no lease. There are no occupancy rights by the people who occupy

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the space. There's no lengthy eviction process where troubled tenants could stay on for months,

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sometimes years. When and if there are terms of service breaches, occupancy is canceled

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immediately, just like any hotel. You break the rules of a hotel, you're removed.

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Just like any hotel, you break the rules of a hotel, you're removed.

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