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ZBA Hearing - January 21, 2026

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Jan 21, 20266h 17m

Could you identify your client in a relationship to the property?

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My client is 18th and Ludlow Properties, the owner of 1813 Randstad.

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And there's a letter of non-opposition from the Center City Residents Association,

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a letter of non-opposition from Council Member Young,

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and also four letters of support two in the immediate block and our vice chair has a few

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questions good afternoon um have you submitted your documents and exhibits five days in advance

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of this hearing we did okay and do you uh waive the reading of the referral and stipulates to it

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stipulate to its accuracy yes okay thank you you can share your screen and proceed with your case

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thank you i'm still uh not a panelist so i appreciate if i can be promoted

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okay i tried to promote you but it was declined so when it pops back up could you accept please

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yes thank you

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one second please

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It should be coming in now.

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Yes, I see it.

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Thank you.

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You're welcome.

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Okay.

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Good afternoon.

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again andrea solomon from the law firm of clear harrison harvey brandsberg representing the

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applicant 18th and ludlow properties i'll see with me today is joseph kelly the owner's rep

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and um also in the audience are the team members monica maj and paulina matajewska

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we're here today seeking special exception approval for ground level parking in a cmx

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five stone property just a couple of blocks from here on 18th and randstead

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the property is currently under construction in line with demand and the desire to increase

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quality housing stock in the city for a 12-story multi-family residential building with 84 units

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it's estimated to be completed in the late spring of this year

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as you know the special exception approval has a lesser standard

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not cause that it will not cause any specific detrimental impacts here we're actually trying

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to decrease impacts by reducing congestion and adding these three parking spaces at the ground

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floor for offloading of groceries and temporary parking for the residents.

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offloading of groceries and temporary parking for the residents as chairman bergman stated

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we received a letter of non-opposition from the ccra we met with them back in october

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and we also received the support of the immediately adjacent properties on the block

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at 22 south 18th street 1800 market 1815 brandstead and 1817 ran to 19 ranstead

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uh to orient you a bit um oops

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it's a challenging site uh uh it fronts two very narrow streets branstead is a dead end

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at 19th street so the only entrance to it is from 18th street uh the main entrance of the

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building is on Randstead. And so at the rear of the property, we're proposing this curb cut and

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three parking spaces, including an ADA van space. Like I said, the intention is to for residents to

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have it as an amenity and not block Ludlow, which is a very narrow street when they're offloading

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groceries and dropping off kids, et cetera.

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And it's on CMX 5, so it requires special exception for the ground floor parking.

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Here you can see the dead end.

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Here are some property, the photos of the exterior of the building, the main entrance

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on Randstead, the dead end.

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This is, if you can see my cursor, this is the subject property.

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And this is from Ludlow Street at the rear where the proposed curb cut would be.

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In front of the property is the parking structure, 1800 Market.

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it. And it's really the rear of the adjacent properties. The only real traffic here is a

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little bit of pedestrian traffic for the entrance to Condesa and El Techo, but it's really not a

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heavily trafficked block, very narrow with the parking structures in front.

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So again, it's a special exception approval. We don't think it will have, it won't have any

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detrimental impacts beyond that of the typical ground floor parking, no congestion to public

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streets. We actually think it will alleviate that, no overcrowding of the land, no impairing the

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adequate supply of light and air to the adjacent properties the structures existing no burning

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water sewer school park or other public facilities non-pairing permanent or permanently injuring

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the use of adjacent conforming properties non-endangering the public health or safety

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or by fire other means and it's not inconsistent with the comprehensive city plan

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no detriment is also evidenced by the letters of support and non-opposition that we received

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um with that being said we request the special exception approval and any other relief necessary

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and i'd ask that joseph kelly be sworn in to adopt could you please state your name and spell for

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the stenographer yeah it's joseph kelly mike one joseph kelly is that better yeah right uh j-o-s-e-p-h

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k-e-l-l-e-y do you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth

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i do counsel joe you saw the entirety of the presentation yes and it's true and accurate to

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the best of your knowledge yes and do you adopt it as your own testimony yes questions from the board

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yeah question for you can you go back to the site plan sure plan of the first floor

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and these are it's a total of four parking spaces did you say three parking spaces um two regular

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parking spaces and one ADA van-sized parking space. And how do the tenants access these

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parking spaces from within the building? Is there a first floor plan? We do have a first floor plan.

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I can pull it up. And Joe, you can talk through that as well. Yes. So there's another door that

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will connect to the residential lobby. If you see on the skinny portion of the T, that's the main

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RESIDENTIAL ENTRY AND THERE'S A DOOR THAT WOULD HAVE JOINED THEM.

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So, is the main lobby on Randstead or is the main lobby on, what's the other street, Ludlow?

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SO IS THE MAIN LOBBY ON

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The main lobby is on Randstead.

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The main lobby is on Randstead next to this drop-off or parking spaces.

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The parking spaces would front Ludlow, so they're in the rear of the property.

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and so Ludlow so Ludlow is at the top of this plan correct okay and your main lobby is at this

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this the bottom narrow where you have the vestibule the mail in the mail room correct

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you come through the mail room and then just trying to get and then you go you've got this

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sort of back hallway that gets you to this parking space these two these parking spaces

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that's correct so there's a so these and so how does one get how does one load and unload

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if they're moving in and out how does that work I'm looking at this this hallway in the back and

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it seems sort of sort of circuitous you know what I mean sort of winding how do you you mean for if

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tenant is moving in and out and it is moving out where does the where does the truck where's the

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furniture truck go yeah go ahead joe yeah are they loaning from randstad what's the yeah the

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the goal of these parking spaces is to help accommodate with that so they would load through

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that corridor into the elevator the units are rather small um so we don't anticipate large

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furniture so we think that it's sufficient to accommodate that and the goal of these spaces

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is so that it makes that process easier and less disruptive.

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So you've got three spaces.

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Will one of the spaces accommodate a box truck?

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We don't believe a box truck will be necessary

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given the size of the unit.

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So it would accommodate a U-Haul van-sized move-in.

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But we could also look at if there is a box truck

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necessary reserving both of those spaces

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because there'll be temporary reserve spots.

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so it'll be through our property management company okay i can barely hear you oh is am i

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close enough now yeah that's better yeah so the spaces will be reserved through our property

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management company uh for the tenants for temporary use so if there is a box truck

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those two spaces could accommodate one but generally speaking we feel a van will be

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sufficient for these move-ins thanks tell the moving companies that um so all cars are going

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to come in off ludlow and in terms because it didn't look like this is going to be 24-hour

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staffed so what's going to be the management of the gate and the door and to make sure people

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aren't parking here when they haven't reserved it so we're going to have an app we're looking

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into different app options that will allow temporary access to each resident as they have

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are reserved. So they'll only be able to open that gate if they have the temporary access to

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the app. Otherwise it'll be controlled by the management company. Exactly. Okay. And then

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I'm assuming this is only going to be for like 15 minute loading zone type uses. But so what's

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happening like Amazon, all the grocery delivery companies that also don't necessarily use Vans,

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where do you intend for them to? So they would put the packages in that vestibule area. That is

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the designated package from the ranstead side or from the ludlow side from ranstead so you're

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anticipating that the trucks are still going to block ranstead just not the tenants and that

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one's also a rear uh kind of a an alley of narrow alley situation and how it is currently on both

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yes okay so we're trying to alleviate as much as we can i just don't know how much it's alleviating

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i feel like it's it's performative at this point but other questions questions more attorney

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not at this time questions or comments from the virtual audience no haynes planning commission

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amy boy with the planning commission the comprehensive plan recommends no change in

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zoning at this location from the current same x5 commercial mixed use the appellant has

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demonstrated that the proposed use will not cause detrimental impacts beyond what would reasonably

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be expected the planning commission recommends that the board grant their requested special

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exception for ground floor parking my 2025-005-223-1813 branch head street i vote yes

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michael johnson my vote is yes cheryl gaston my boot is yes tenetta graham my vote is yes

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ryan mcadams my vote is yes i own my vote is yes thank you very much counsel mr patterson

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MI-2025-005-347, 2545 Aramingo Avenue.

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mi 2025 005347

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Ronald Patterson is the attorney.

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There's unanimous support from Old Richmond Civic Association

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and a non-opposition from Council Member Squillip.

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Mr. Patterson, could you please state your name is spelled for the stenographer.

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i think i'm in okay good afternoon ronald patterson p-a-t-t-e-r-s-o-n claire harrison

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law firm philadelphia pa do you swear our firm to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the

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truth uh yes i do could you identify your client a relationship to the property sure my client is

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owner and developer of the property cl collection on iron mingo uh pa llc and with me is jeffrey

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thompson who's uh one of the principals our vice chair has a few questions good afternoon

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um have you submitted your documents and exhibits five days in advance of this hearing yes i have

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and do you waive the read no the refusal and stipulate to its accuracy yes i do all right

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thank you you can share your screen and proceed with your case

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beautiful so this application regards 25 45 aromingo avenue uh at the corner of huntington

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avenue uh it's in the vicinity on our mingo between york and lehigh avenues it's a vacant

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building last used by right aid having a drive-through window while this use stands on its

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own lot here. It is connected to the two adjacent lots here, which is a Wawa and an Applebee's,

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both all three owned by the same company, the CL Collection. There's access to all the lots

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that are connected through cross easements. They were purchased that way, but they exist in that

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condition because of financing histories. But practically speaking, they're operated as one

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lot. And that's important for when I get to the refusals. The proposal here is to demolish the

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Rite Aid and replace it with a Chick-fil-A. Here is the existing building.

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One second.

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So the zoning district is a CA2 commercial shopping center district.

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This restaurant used to take out and drive through are permitted uses.

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We're here for dimensional variances, two of them, that regard the drive-through design.

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The refusals are the stacking lanes need to be set back 20 feet from the nearest lot line,

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and the second one is that the stacking lanes need to be separated by raised curb median or landscaping.

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This particular lot is 2.35 acres, which is 102,570 square feet.

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The building will be around 50 to 100 square feet with interior seating of 90 seats and two stacking lanes.

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Parking is approximately 600, I'm sorry, 66 spaces.

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We did commission the traffic impact study review, amongst other things, to look at the ingress, egress, traffic, circulation, and the stacking.

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And this design was approved, conditionally approved by the streets department.

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So with that said, I'm going to introduce Mr. Thompson.

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He can board your name and address, please.

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My name is Chris Revell.

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Sorry, Chris.

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C-H-R-I-S-R-E-V-I-L-L-E.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, not to write the truth?

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Yes, I do.

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Counsel?

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Chris, so you heard my testimony.

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Would you agree it's true and accurate so far?

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Yes.

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And it would adopt as if it were your own?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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And what's your position with the owner's group?

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i'm the director of construction development i uh here for the development of this piece of

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property okay um just a few questions for you um can you confirm that that the cl owns the

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two adjacent properties correct and are they interconnected and have cross access easements

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Correct.

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And are they interconnected and have cross-access easements for ingress and egress and traffic circulation?

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for ingress and egress.

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Yes, they do.

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And when this building was, I guess, vacant for a couple of years, do you know if there were any other offers by any other uses?

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I do not. We purchased the property with the Chick-fil-A being the potential.

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Okay. And is it fair to say that the parcels are separated because of financial purposes?

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Correct.

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Okay.

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And ground leasing.

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Okay.

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Other financial.

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And I have a question before we get to it.

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These two grassy areas, are they part of the development?

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Yes, they are.

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And they will remain vacant and undeveloped?

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Undeveloped and they'll remain.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Any questions?

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No, not at this point.

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Do you have other witnesses?

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I have more.

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