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ZBA Hearing - October 2, 2024

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Oct 2, 20245h 55m

Planning

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Planning.

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Thank you Chair Bergman

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Thank you, Chair Bergman.

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And good afternoon.

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David Fecto with the City Planning Commission.

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Chairman and board members, the comprehensive plan recommends no change to the RSA-5 residential single-family zoning at this location.

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This appears to be a legalization of an existing two-unit building.

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The City Planning Commission recommends the board grant their proposed use variants for two dwelling units.

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Thank you.

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MI 2024-002-621-1428 Hope Street, I vote yes.

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Michael Johns, my vote is yes.

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Cheryl Gaston, my vote is yes.

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Tanetta Graham, my vote is yes.

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Iowan, my vote is yes.

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Ishmael Shahid, my vote is yes.

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I have your vote, sir.

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Thank you.

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What are our next steps?

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Will someone reach out to me?

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Yeah, absolutely, sir.

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Great.

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Thanks.

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Appreciate your time.

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Thank you.

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Sure, sure.

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Number seven, MI 2024-004-496, 428 North 53rd Street.

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Madeline Cartwright is the listed owner.

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Madeline Cartwright, please raise your virtual hand.

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Cherish, she's coming back in as a panelist now.

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Okay.

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all right yes hi could you please state your name and spell for the court sonographer

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Madeline Cartwright

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C-A-R-T

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W-R-I-G-H-T

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We're affirmed

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to tell the truth. The whole truth is nothing but the truth.

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I do.

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Could you please turn on your video?

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It's on?

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Is it on now?

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Not yet.

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Dad, start on the video.

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Is something covering your video screen?

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Your camera?

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No, the camera's green.

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Okay, because we're seeing a black screen,

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so it looks like something could be covering the camera.

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Okay.

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now i said she says she sees a black screen

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okay

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why is it working

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our tech guy you have any ideas

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no she made an accident come back ellen it's it's literally

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showing no signal but it's not this quarter why don't you do this go go get get go back out then

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come back in let's see what happens okay okay

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he's been promoted to panelists again share thank you

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now you see me right yes you have your video on oh no

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all right so when i hit the screen on right it's still flat

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it's nothing

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camera i don't know why we don't we don't have anything here there's nothing done over the

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camera did it all right did you click the start click start video or click the video icon on the

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lower left hand corner of your zoom okay start video yeah all right it says not i've got a

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line through it okay yeah then your video is off yep so it needs to not have a line and the line

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is off so the line is off yeah okay are you able to share your screen miss cartwright yeah i think

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so we can see your documents here it goes it's coming up

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Mr. Chair, we can proceed. I believe she's already been sworn in.

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mr chair we can proceed i believe she's already been sworn in

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Okay. This application is for use as a single-family household living in a child care center in an existing structure.

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The proposed use of child care center is prohibited in the RSA 5 zoning.

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Multiple principal uses on a lot are prohibited in the RSA 5 zoning.

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The 44th Ward has sent a letter of support, and Councilperson Gauthier has wrote her support and made references that this was previously approved, and she would like that she had approved again.

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Our vice chair has a few questions for you, okay?

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Yes.

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Good afternoon, Councilor. Do you agree to wait to read another refusal or stipulate to his accuracy?

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Yes.

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Have you emailed that? Oh, excuse me.

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Have you emailed in all the required documents that's needed to proceed with this case five days in advance of this hearing?

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You're talking to me now?

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Yes, ma'am.

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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Did you email in all the required documents that's needed to proceed with this case?

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Yes, I did.

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Thank you.

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You can now share your screen.

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Share it now, right?

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Yeah, so why don't you start your testimony and show us what you have.

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Ms. Cartwright, I just want to note, if you have someone else there with you, you need to be the one doing the testifying, okay?

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Yes.

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Okay, we just ask that the other person not speak because that confuses our court reporter about who's speaking.

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Thank you.

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Carter, tell us what you want to do.

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Okay, what I want to do is have a daycare on the lower level.

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That's the first floor?

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Well, no, it's the lower level.

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It's the first is the basement.

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But the basement shows photos of that.

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Is that the lower level there?

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Yes, it is.

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That's it.

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And this is already operating, right?

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Am I correct?

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No, it's not operating.

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This is the door to the front.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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So that's where you're going and everything's in the basement there, right?

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That's right.

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And above that, tell me what's above that, a household living?

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Yeah, that's an apartment.

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How many apartments is the place?

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There are two apartments.

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And the first floor and the basement are going to be daycare.

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So the daycare is in the basement and the first floor.

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That's right.

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And above that, you had an apartment.

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I have an apartment, yes.

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This was approved before, but you never, you never followed through.

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Tell me what happened.

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Yeah, it was approved before.

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And I didn't proceed.

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I didn't know there was a limit to the time you could start it.

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And I was putting, making this daycare for my daughter, who's a graduate in early childhood.

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And I didn't know it was, you know, you had to do it right away.

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So I kind of slow did it because I wanted her to have more experience in the daycare.

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So she got a job in daycare.

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and as she had the job at daycare, I slowly finished this place, but I slowly did it because

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I want her to have a lot. Now she's had four years experience in daycare. She's been promoted

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to lead teacher in her, where she's working. And now I feel that she's capable of coming in here

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and doing this business. Now I'm a retired school principal teacher and I'm going to be there with

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her, but I wanted to make sure that she was capable. I felt she was capable to look after

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children, which is such a responsible

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position. Let me ask you this. Do you have

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photos of the first floor where this is going to be, too?

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Say it again.

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Have photos of your

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first floor, because you're saying the first floor is a

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daycare, too? No, the first floor

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right now is vacant.

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A lady was living there, and she's

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moving out, and

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I really want to keep the first

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floor like it is, but I'm going to do what I have

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to do. But the

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right now, she's not there, and

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nobody's in the basement now.

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i'm just making sure that everything is right in the basement and the first floor both are

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going to be the daycare yeah well i want to open that to the daycare if we expand to bring in

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after school children um and you don't have any photos of the first floor no not at the first

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floor but that's where the day the first floor is going to be where the daycare is too am i correct

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I plan on expanding to it later

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but right now the daycare is in the basement

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so that's the two

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the photos you have now are the two different floors

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yes

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point to me

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because I don't see which one is

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which one is the first

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where the basement is

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okay this is

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the top one

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the top one is the basement

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And the bottom one is the first floor.

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and the bottom one is the first floor

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I think, can I jump in just for a second?

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I'm thankful

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Go ahead.

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The plan that's on the right that has the shaded area, that's the basement plan?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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And then if you move that and the plans that are behind that, the one on the top is, well, you know, you can, if you go back to the other plans.

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Yes.

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Okay.

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The plan that's on the top is the first floor plan, and the plan on the bottom is the second floor plan.

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That's right.

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So the first floor is still.

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This is the second floor.

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This one, this bottom one is the second floor of the building right here.

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Correct. Right. That's the second.

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That's right.

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Yes. And the one above that is the first floor because those are the steps to the porch, the front door.

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I guess dining room, whatever,

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or whatever kitchen that was there,

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and then it looks like two bedrooms and a full bath.

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That's right.

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Okay.

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Questions from the board?

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Say it again.

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Can we blow up?

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I'm talking to the board.

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Can we make that bigger?

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Can you make that full screen?

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Yeah.

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make this this picture with the two departments you want me to make it full screen

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yes i'd like to see both pages but one at a time

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there it is

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you're not planning to make any changes to the second floor like the second floor plan

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no we're saying that's how it would stay yes when you would do the first floor later well

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i didn't plan to do too much to the first floor more except for uh if we expanded to have after

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school children then i was going to have the this area here you know the top area there

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