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ZBA Hearing - January 15, 2025

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Jan 15, 20258h 11m

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Thank you.

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good morning everyone um and welcome to our uh our first in-person meeting after five years

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after five years and uh before i start i really want to thank the staff for getting us to this

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point and i even kathleen grady i see her in the audience there ian haggerty and everybody who

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worked on this and i also want to go back and um you know thank the group that got us to the

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to the zoom process um tanya frank duchico the people were here they put that place that

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program in place and we really did get to the point where I think we really had it down

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but now we're in person and we're going to be better. So we're really glad to hear. So let

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me start off by saying good morning and I will, my name is Bill Bergman and I will be chairing

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this meeting. With me is our Vice Chair Ismail Shahid. President Mr. Chairman. Our Board Member

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Cheryl L. Gaston. President Mr. Chairman. Our Board Member Kenetta Graham. President Mr. Chairman.

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Our board member, Michael Johns.

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Present, Mr. Chairman.

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And our board member, Ty Wynn.

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Present, Mr. Chairman.

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Also present is Hillary Emerson, our attorney.

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Ian Haggerty, our executive director of the zoning board.

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And our supervisor, Lakeisha Dandy.

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Please be advised this meeting is to be recorded.

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Your participation in this meeting indicates that you consent to be recorded.

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The video will be posted on ZBA website approximately one week following the meeting.

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This meeting is be held in person with remote capabilities, meaning that individuals can

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participate either in person, at the hearing room, on one parkway building, or remotely over Zoom.

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When you're recognized to speak by the board, please state and spell your name for the court

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reporter and then wait to be sworn in. If you are in the hearing room, you must speak into a

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microphone so that everyone in attendance, including the court reporter, can hear you.

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If you're participating remotely, please turn on your camera and unmute yourself when you're

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recognized to speak. Once you've been sworn in, please state your name each time before testifying,

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whether you're in person or remote, so that the court reporter knows who is speaking.

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Please mute yourself or turn off your microphone when you are not speaking. If you're participating

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by phone, press star nine to raise your hand and star six to unmute. If you're participating by

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phone, please call 267-270-5548 to register your appearance by the close of the business day after

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the hearing. You must provide an email address and the address of the property you are interested

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in. All others can enter the appearance through the Zoom registration. For individuals participating

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in person, a QR code is available to register your appearance. For assistance, please see a staff

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member at the back of the hearing room. If you have any questions about how to enter your appearance,

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please contact rcozba at phillip.gov. If you are in the hearing room, please refrain from talking

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or engaging in conversation while the hearings are proceeding. Please note, eating and drinking

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in the hearing room is prohibited in addition vertical verbal and physical aggression will not

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be tolerated if you're participating remotely remember the q a on the zoom platform is not for

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testimony or comments any comments related to this hearing operations should be directed to

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should be directed to ZBAExecutiveDirector at phil.gov.

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zba executive director at phil.gov

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Before we begin, Executive Director Ian Haggerty has an important safety announcement.

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All right. Thank you, Chair. Good morning, everyone.

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For the folks in the room today, just a quick couple of safety notes.

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The safety of the meeting attendees is our highest priority here in the room.

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In the event of an emergency, if the alarm goes off or otherwise,

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please pay attention to the announcements on the loudspeaker,

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which will provide detailed instructions if there is no announcement please follow the directions of

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security officers and zba staff members the main exit out of this room is the double doors at the

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rear of the room the nearest stairway is to the left outside the main exit from this room follow

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the illuminated red exit signs to reach the stairway if an order is given to evacuate the

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building for any reason the rally point will be at love park directly across arch street from

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the main public entrance to this building. Please remain at the rally point so we can

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keep track of folks. Restrooms, as a reminder, are located across from the elevators and there's

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a water fountain just outside the double doors to the right. Thanks very much. Back to you, Chair.

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As our first order of business, we will be adopting revised regulations for the Zoning

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Board of Adjustment dated January 15, 2025. Have all members received a copy of the revised

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regulation and had an opportunity to review them yes chair yes chair do members have any concerns

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for proposed changes pertaining to these revised regulations none no chair at this time do i have

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a motion to adopt the revised regulations of the zoning board of adjustment dated january 15 2025.

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I motion that we adopt the revised regulations of the Zoning Board of Adjustment, dated January 15th, 2025.

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I second.

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Hearing a motion that has been properly second, will the members in support of the motion to adopt the revised regulations of the Zoning Board of Adjustment, dated January 15th, 2025, please signify by saying aye.

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Aye.

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Aye.

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If members are opposed, please signify by saying nay.

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Based on the vote by the members, the revised regulations of the Zoning Board of Adjustment

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dated January 15, 2025, have been adopted by the board and will be filed with the Department

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of Records for a 30-day public comment period as required by the Home Rule and Charger.

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Now, let's look at our schedule for today, please.

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number three

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mi 2023 002 047 2231 green street that case has been continued the case will be continued to

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6 4 25 at 9 30 a.m number seven

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number seven mi 2023 0 0 6 6 1 3 50 33 duffield street that case is continued attorney moving

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party. Number 17, MI 2024-005-353-4554 Worth Street. That case is continued to 6425 at 9.30

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a.m and number 19 mi 2024 005 357 839 airedale road cases continued until 6425 at 9 30.

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move to our first case number eight number eight

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Number eight, MI 2023-006-909-1443 Tashkar Street.

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Do we have the interpreter?

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Good morning, Chair.

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This is Nadia, and I will be your co-host this morning.

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Do we have the interpreter for Haiying Ling?

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If you are in a virtual audience, please raise your virtual hand.

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Thank you.

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Chair, we have three hands up. We have Mike Wang, a Spanish interpreter, and Ha-Ying Wang.

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Mike Wang is the Mandarin interpreter for this case.

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Thank you. Mike Wang has been promoted to panelists.

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Good morning, sir. Could you please state your name and spell for the court stenographer?

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Good morning. This is Mike, Mandarin Tepetem.

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Did you spell your name for the stenographer, please?

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Mike, M-I-K-E, L-A-N-G, W-A-N-G.

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Do you solemnly swear or affirm that you will interpret accurately, completely, and impartially

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for English to Mandarin and from Mandarin to English to the best of your ability?

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Yes, I do.

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We'd like to call Hai-Yong Li, please.

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Li Hai-Yin, you should.

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Hi, you how?

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How are you?

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Could you ask her, please, to state her name and spell for the stenographer?

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请您把您的名字拼一下,好吗?法庭的记录员,要把您的名字记录下来。

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好的,我的名字叫海因黎。

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My name is Haiying Li.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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您是不是宣誓表示您今天所说的都是实话,讲的每一句都是实话?

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是.

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Yes.

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Okay. There is a letter of support from Point Breeze Community Development Corporation.

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有一封从开发公司寄来的一封支持的信件。

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Your place chair has a few questions

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我们的副主席有一些问题

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好的

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Good morning, have you emailed in all the required documents and exhibits that is needed and required to proceed with this case five days in advance at this hearing?

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请问你有没有按照这个电邮告诉您需要递交的一些文件

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在今天听证之前都有需要递交的文件,您都递交了吗?

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我都递交了

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I have submitted them all.

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Thank you.

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You may proceed and share your screen.

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So I can start share my screen now?

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Yes.

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Should have.

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Can you see it?

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Excuse me, Mr. Chair, would you like to read the refusal into the record?

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This application is for use as a visitor accommodation on the third floor of an existing structure.

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今天的请面是神术是想要在这一栋楼的三楼做商业的使用。

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是的。

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With existing single dwelling on the second floor.

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现在目前二楼是单独居住的安排。

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是我们自己,我们家人住在这二楼。

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Yeah, my family lives on the second floor.

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And with existing retail sales of food and beverages and groceries on the first floor as previously approved.

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那一楼已经核准可以做零售的这个商店。

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是的。

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Yes.

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The proposed use visitor accommodation is prohibited in the CMX1 zoning district.

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Prohibited is for the third floor or for the other area in the building?

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The proposed use of visitor accommodation is prohibited in the CMX-1 zoning district.

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它不允许的意思是吗?

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它不允許的意思是甚麼?

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What is inhibited means?

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It means it is not by code.

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按照这边的土地使用的规定,是不可以拿来做商务使用的。

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那所以我们有这个诉求,不是吗?

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Isn't that why we're appealing here?

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Yes.

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是的。

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所以我现在可不可以称给你我们的东西?

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So can I proceed to show my material?

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Please, please start your...

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好,请开始.

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第一张图就是我们的整个外形,整个标准的外形.

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The first picture is the exterior of this building.

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那第二下面这几张,这一二三四五六,

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And this following few pictures is a picture of the third floor after restoration.

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and this is the the posting announcement according to the requirement of twenty-one days earlier

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然后这两张就是我们跟community meeting,他们给我们通过3比1的比例这样子。

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And this is the meeting and approval from the community, they grant us 3 to 1 ratio.

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And also following the requirement to send mailing

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notification to all the neighbors in the community to prove that we had this meeting with the community.

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To the left was the tax clearance letter and the denial of the refusal letter from the

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The text clearance letter indicating

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we do not owe any taxes.

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And these two are project information form.

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And the bottom two are the planned way to post.

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I need to bring my Chinese copy out.

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所以一楼它的作业跟二楼上面完全没关系.

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And the first floor has its own restroom and has a full basement.

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It is completely independent from the second or the third floor in the building.

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然后二楼呢,是我们自己住在二楼。

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二楼有三个房间,两个厕所。

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And my family.

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所以我们家里还有五个人

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And my family lives on the second floor

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There are total six members in the family

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My oldest son is in the college

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So there are currently five people

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Live in the second floor

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The second floor has three bedrooms, two baths

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那三楼呢,是三个房间

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空间会比二楼会大一点

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And the third floor has three bedrooms and three full beds.

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So bigger than the second floor.

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那我们为什么要做这个游客的就是visitor accommodation呢?

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是因为我们确实有家庭的需要

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Why do we make this a visitor accommodation property?

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Because we do have the need

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那我们家这个大哥大的儿子

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他其实也住在

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也是在我们附近这个大学

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上学

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然后呢 他也是想

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喜欢回来

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或者说没地方住

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回来没地方住

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他得跟弟弟他们

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跪在一个房间里面

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