那我们如果做了这个
这个computation呢
我们如果哥哥要回家
我们就把这个date
给他brass下来
然后我们让我们家儿子回来
他也可以有时间
跟弟弟妹妹们在一起
所以这个也是我自己
我因为我也只有我一个人上班
所以我们也没能力
想再买房子啊什么的
如果可以允许的话呢
我是想说我们三楼
可以做这个computation
这个wistercomputation
方便我的儿子回来
有的时候我们家孩子
如果没有客人,他们也可以在三楼上面,玩啊,在三楼上面,做他们的作业啊,因为空间大了,他们就有自己的地方。
Listen, I need to advise Ms. Li just to break it into several sections.
If she goes too long, I may not be able to interpret everything she said.
抱歉,请你要稍微讲的简短一点。
如果你讲的太长,我可能会遗漏。
所以请你一段一段地讲,好吧。
好,要不要我重新再给你讲一次。
不需要了,你先请我来讲,OK。
So, yeah, one personal need or several personal need from our family point of view.
First of all, my son in the college nearby and occasionally he will come back and visit, but he had no place to stay.
He had to squeeze into a room with his siblings.
So if we do have the third floor as a visitor's accommodation, when we know my son is coming home, we can block out those days so he can stay on the third floor and also be close to the family and have time spent with the family.
And also sometimes my younger ones may need more room to do their homework or play.
When there is no guest on the third floor, they have more room.
They can go up there.
We have only one encounter family.
I'm the only one working.
So we don't have the ability to purchase another property to accommodate all this family.
这个是我很大的一个诉求,就是我们是真的是有这个需求,不是说我们为了商业去做这个事情。
This is our, the reason for our appeal. We're not really doing this for business, from the business perspective. It's really for the family, from the family perspective.
然后我也很爱种花,那我的花也因为没地方放,就是经常会死掉,那我其实会惨得心疼,那如果有三楼的话,我其实它又可以做成一个dickery,可以保护我的花不会死掉,所以这个也是我另外一个诉求。
Sometimes I need to clarify one thing she said, one second.
您说可以把花放在三楼当作什么?
这是专事的。
Oh, okay.
Oh, okay.
And also, I...
And also, I enjoy planting flowers, but I don't have enough room, so a lot of time the flower would just die.
So if we have the third floor open up, I can put some of the flowers on third floor as declaration.
Another big problem issue is parking.
I've been living in South Philadelphia for many years.
I understand this is a tough issue.
在2021年到2023年之间,我有做了两年的Airbnb host.
Up to between 2021 and 2023, I was hosting as an Airbnb host.
在这里呢我的经历呢是说很多的客人基本他们都不是在附近开车来的
很多都是要坐飞机啊坐火车啊然后坐那个Uber到我们的这个家里面对
Based on my experience, most of the guests stay in our Airbnb was not people from the neighboring area drove here.
A lot of them flew in or take a train in and then Uber to this property.
About three to five visitors in a year
we're probably driving to this property and plus we only have one car so adding another car
occasionally shouldn't be a big problem okay all right thank you
questions from the board
i have a question um is the entryway to the airbnb the same as to the second floor unit
请问这个到您Airbnb的入口
跟到二楼的入口
是不是相同的
但是我们还有一个入口
Entry 是从
Store 里面进来
另外一个 Entry 是从
反正就是有两个 Entry
Yes, it is the same
But they have two entrants
There's one entrance through the store on the first floor, and there is another entrance.
I guess I'm not understanding why there's a need for a visitor accommodation if it's for family, and they're just, you know, they're coming and staying.
I don't know why that needs to be in a visitor accommodation.
It seems like they can just stay there.
我不晓得为什么需要申请这个给客人居住的这个地方,你们就可以自己使用
我也想啊,但是我们的收入是有限的呀,是不是啊
I also hope we can keep this as a private use, but our income is limited
我也希望这个房子我们可以自己使用
我不想跟别人share我的place
但是我们要try best的去生活好
不想把自己活得那么辛苦
虽然可能需要做一些牺牲
但是至少是说能让我们很平稳的
不要很多的 struggle
I also want to use all the spaces by ourselves, not sharing with anyone else.
I also want to use all the spaces by ourselves
But we also need to try our best to be able to live in a better situation, not struggling all the time.
所以没有一个人愿意把自己的place分享跟另外一个人住在你的家里
但是我们需要另外的income
因为我有两个儿子已经上大学
他们需要我support他们
No one really like to share their living space with other people
but we need additional income
because I have two kids
in college right now.
I need to support them.
And we still have mortgage
for the building to pay.
And because my English is not very good,
so I have to sacrifice in a different way.
Other questions from the board?
Yes, you have one more question.
My question was,
she said she had used it for Airbnb previously.
Were there any complaints?
没有没有 我们跟我们的客人都非常好的关系
他们都很按就是 他们是很follow这个
都是按这个规定来住在我们上面
所以没有我的客人complain 也没有我的laborcomplain
所以我们这次我们的community meeting
他们都给我们过 是他们都知道我们住在这边很浪
所以我们都知道一区阿人
而且我也很喜欢我的邻居
非常喜欢他们
No, we have very good relationship with the guests
No one has ever complained
And also we have very good relationship with the community
And not receive any complaints from the neighbors
That's why when we have this community meeting
They support or approve this proposal
other questions from the board yes um i guess i need to go back again to the question that uh
board member johns asked um i thought in we can we can figure this out but visitor accommodation
i thought was if the uh property is going to be used as an airbnb but it's not owner occupied but
is that is that correct i think so if it's separate units i think then those are accommodations is
the appropriate category it would be limited lodging if somebody was actually like running
a room within the primary residence but it's a separate unit but isn't that what they're i mean
isn't the whole building but it's not like it's a separate so it's two separate units
it's yes yeah but it's in okay all right no i know it's in the same building but it's there's
these two units plus the commercial so if they're running a separate unit then as visitor
accommodations and the one being their residence that that separate unit needs to be visitor
accommodations all right okay so but you you're you're making basically an economic argument
but you said here you had only like three to five visitors per year and the rest of the time the
room is being used by either the college student who may come and stay when I guess they have
breaks or your children who live with you who may want to play in that room and you know and for
flowers so i'm i'm a little i think i'm a little lost as to um what you really anticipate is going
to be um the kind of rentals that would um achieve the goal that you were asking for this for which
is to help supplement the family income here with these rentals.
three-throw can be used to be used to use airbnb
Another one of the explanation is that it is two different types
This is no problem
Next question is you mentioned about the basic demand for the economy
But as you just mentioned
One year only three or five people
And for the rest of your children will be able to use the children
They can be able to get their kids
If only three or five people come here
我不了解这个在经济上面对您会有什么样的帮助。
没有没有可能刚才我没有说清楚我们是说parking的事情停车的这个问题我的意思是说会有三到五个这个guest他们会开车或者会在附近租车的意思不是说三五个客人。
When I mentioned the three to five visitors per year, that was referring to the parking situation.
Not saying that there are only three to five guests visit per year.
There were only three to five guests driving to the property or make a car rental locally.
And then they may need to use, they may need to park somewhere.
Other guests are traveling here through the flight or through the train.
They don't have parking need.
Can I ask that we take this to executive session for more questions?
Yes, I have one more question.
My question is about property management.
So when it's being operated as an Airbnb, do you plan to use a third-party service or do you and your family plan to manage the trash and the cleaning between the units on your own?
In the future, we may consider use a third-party management services.
Thank you. Other questions?
My last question is, is there a limit to how many people you plan to allow to stay in the apartment?
您有没有想过说这个出租最多一次能够住多少人?
Per visit, like at a time.
This interpreter, both of you are talking at the same time.
Can you please repeat your question?
Yes. Is there a limit to how many people you plan to allow to stay in the unit per visit or at a time?
就是每一次最多有多少人能够使用这个LDMD
不能超过五个人
No more than five
Michael, do you have a question?
No, I was just asking if we could take this back to executive session
The only other, I just wanted to confirm that this in fact is a distinct separate unit from the other unit that's in the building
Okay, all right. Questions or comments from our attorney, Hillary Emerson?
Not at this time, Mr. Chair.
Questions or comments from people in the room here?
Questions or comments from the virtual audience?
At the moment, there is no one on this issue.
The president just mentioned that this issue brought to the president's office to discuss.
I'm Paula Brumblo-Burns, and I'm here to testify for the Planning Commission.
Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?
I do. The comprehensive plan recommends no change in zoning at this location from the existing
commercial mixed use, CMX1. There is no unique physical condition or circumstance of this
property that would prevent it from being used in conformance with the zoning code.
A 2020 zoning ordinance passed by City Council, which regulated short-term rentals, did not change
the basic rule prohibiting full-time use of a dwelling unit as a short-term rental. This type
of absentee management where the owner does not live in the unit has been illegal since the first
short-term rental zoning regulations became effective in 2015. What's changed since the