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ZBA Hearing - January 15, 2025

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Jan 15, 20258h 11m

the requested variants for two families thank you mi2024-005-356-3519 conrad street i vote yes

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michael johns my vote is yes and you have a well-maintained and attractive

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Cheryl Gaston, my vote is yes.

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Snedag Graham, my vote is yes.

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Iowyn, my vote is yes.

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Ishmael Shahi, my vote is yes.

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Thank you.

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Thank you so much.

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Okay, sure.

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Number 15, MI 2024-002-165-1328 Fawn Street.

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Jermaine Harris is the attorney.

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there's a letter of opposition from protestants on fawn street residence letter of opposition

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from burr home community town watch and civic association and there is a petition of support

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good i'm sorry good afternoon good afternoon good afternoon

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could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer uh sure my name is uh jermaine

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harris that's j-e-r-m-a-i-n-e-h-a-r-r-i-s i am the attorney for the applicant uh melvin torres

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who's also on this call to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth

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i do and is your client the owner of this property he is okay and our vice chair has

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a few questions sure good afternoon counsel do you agree to wait to read another refusal or

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stipulate to its accuracy i do and we do agree have you emailed in all the required documents

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and exhibits that's needed to perceive this case five days in advance of this hearing yes we emailed

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it and we uploaded it thank you counsel please proceed and share your screen sure

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okay all right so this is concerning uh 1328 fawn street and this is the uh

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exhibit packet and i'll just walk you through it so this is a posting of the notice to hearing

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today's hearing notice uh but this is what we're talking about right here it's converting uh

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this property or getting legalized rather not converting but getting legalized a two-family

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dwelling for this particular property so this is the front of the building

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uh it has two garages well two garage doors uh this is the rear of it as well

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and my client bought this property in 2022 right here and this is a description of it

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uh when it was on the mls um he paid 330 000 for the property but this is the

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what what it was this is what it was advertised as which was a two plus two duplex in the area

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perfect foreign owner occupant and uh basically that's what it was advertised um lo and behold

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he purchases the property and then he moves in a few family members and then he just

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And then he moves in a few family members and then he discovers, unfortunately, that the property is not that the property is not, in fact, a two family.

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It's not zoned as a two family. So, again, it's two by two.

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so basically two bedrooms each floor first floor second floor and this is well

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this is the these are the garage this is the garage this was this is walking into

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the first floor. Walking and continuing. Bedroom, common area. Bathroom. Another bedroom. Well,

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no, it's the living room. I'm sorry. This is another bedroom. I'm sorry. It was scanned

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sideways somehow and then you go upstairs into the second floor which is

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quartered off with an entry door to the second floor you walk in walk in the

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door common kitchen hallway common area leading to the uh leading to a bedroom

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kitchen this is another bedroom sorry i don't know why it's zoned sideways i mean it's scanned

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in sideways right here but essentially we're talking about again two and two

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uh this is part of the living room for that second floor

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these are the this is the site plan for it again it's

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the layout uh which has the front the gar the garage garages and uh let's see

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we have the tax clearance right here

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we have the purchase of the property shows that my client purchased the property in 2022

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may of 2022 um for 330 000

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dollars and we also have uh just a history a license history of what's going on on this block

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so apparently there is a significant history of two family dwellings on this particular block

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That are on the same side, same block. In fact, as this property, 1328, we have 1320, 1330, which is a two family.

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we have petitions right here significant petitions signed by nearby neighbors on this

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same block 1321 23 25 on the block and we also have the adjacent on the adjacent block 75 28

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2524 Whittaker Avenue. We have the following block, which is 1400 block of Fawn Street.

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Also, 1336 Fonts has a history of two family. 1334 Font Street has two family. 1332 also has it.

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So basically, 13, 30, 32, 34, 36, all have a history of two family dwellings.

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So this is not something that is a unique, this is not something that's unique to this

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particular block.

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Again, we have significant support.

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Now, we do have a letter of opposition that was given by the RCO, and the reasons that they cite is, is that there were L&I violations, that is, oh, I'm sorry, here it is, here's the 1332, 34, 36, all of the.

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34, 36, all of the two families.

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We have the opposing of it because there are violations and that there are, notably that

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they're saying are nuisance tenants, but there's no tenants that's there.

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It's my client's family members that are there.

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the L&I violations are the violations relating to zoning, which were present at the time,

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and it's still present, of purchase. And he's trying, he's here now to try to correct that.

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And so we would, I'm prepared to call my client to adopt my testimony, and we would open it up for any questions that the board may have.

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Counsel, before you bring your client one, the plans include in the exhibit packet that the basement with two accessory garage spaces would be converted to habitable space. Is that true?

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i don't believe that he plans on converting it to a habitable space but i will have him

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testify as to that i don't believe that that's his plan because that's not

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well are you that's not what he's seeing are you doing away with the garages counsel

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the garages are there they're still there but he's not going to make it uh a habitable space

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for a living. It would just be used

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just for car.

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Sure.

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So, Mr. Torres,

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raise your hand.

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Could you please

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state your name and spell for the stenographer?

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Mr. Torres?

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Yes, I'm here. Could you please state your name

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and spell for the stenographer?

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Yes, my name is Melvin Torres.

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M-E-L-V-I-N-T-O-R-R

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yes you swear or firm to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth

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i swear mr torres could you turn your video on please sure proceed counsel

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sure uh first of all mr torres did you hear my testimony that i just made in front of the

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board yes i did and do you adopt that as your testimony do you accept that to be true

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Yes. Now, there was a question that the chairman made regarding the garages. Is that planned on being used for living space? What's the plan for that?

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You mean for the garages? Nothing. It's just a garage for regular cars, regular entry for vehicles.

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Okay, so you do not plan on using it to, you do not plan on using that space for living?

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No, no, no, not at all.

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Okay.

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Questions from the board.

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I have a question, a few actually.

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So for your client, the property was purchased in 2022, I just want to confirm.

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Yes.

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May of 2022.

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Okay, and at the time of purchase, was there ever any, like, review of the property status?

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I'm just trying to process a hardship.

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Oh, so.

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Yes, go ahead.

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So, well, I'll let my client answer that question, and then I'll answer the question about the hardship.

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Okay.

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But I'll let my client answer that, first of all.

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Yes, when I purchased the property, the real estate, it was listed as a duplex.

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As you can see on the advertisement itself, it was a duplex with real estate and everything.

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So she got a background, everything went out good, and I went ahead and purchased the property.

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Did you run a title search when you purchased the property in 2022?

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to yes that's what that's what i'm on the the which called the real estate title property and

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everything was clear she said you got clear title okay yeah and and and and just to answer the

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question about the hardship uh it would be significant financial hardship to with the

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way that this property is fitted out to demolish this and rebuild it as a single family so that's

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the hardship it's not something that was created by my client he unwittingly that was my actual

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second question so my second question is what was the condition of the property at sale

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it was a duplex of two apartments two apartments already there at purchase and then so i'm just

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trying to process timeline so you because you received a few lni violations that looked like

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that looked like it was for work that hadn't been permitted.

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it was for work that hadn't been permitted and so i just want to confirm that you're stating

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And so I just want to confirm that you're stating on the record

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I don't know.

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that the work was done prior to you purchasing the property.

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Yes.

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Okay.

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And then you proceeded to move family members in,

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and it looks like you got rental violations for not having a rental license in 2022,

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and then again in 2023 for each of the units.

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Can you explain to me why you didn't apply for zoning until 2024?

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That's right.

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The house was baking.

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At the beginning, I purchased the house in cash.

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I just left the house baking for a few months.

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I wasn't ready to get things done.

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So when I tried, then one of my family members, a cousin of mine,

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moved in the first apartment.

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So when I went to apply for the rental license,

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that's when I found out that the house was not a duplex.

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It was a single family house.

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And I was like, no, I bought this house as a duplex.

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So that's when I got the rental violation because I couldn't obtain the rental license because it was a single family.

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So that's when I hired the lawyers to start the procedure to see what was going on, what was the process.

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Because for me, it was a duplex.

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I was advertising and I was buying for myself as a duplex house.

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And when I went to apply for the rental license, I couldn't receive the rental license because the EFPs said it was a single family.

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that's when I got the violations.

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So then I had to move the people out from the house

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and have the house vacant for more than a year already

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and to get this hearing and see if I could get the zoning done

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and apply for the rental license and get the procedures done as well.

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And then my last question is,

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is your intention for this property to reside on property

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and then have an additional income-bearing unit,

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or is it to have two units rented out?

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Two units rented out.

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How is it?

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It was a duplex, two plus two.

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Okay. Other questions from the board?

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Questions from our attorney, Hillary Emerson?

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I just wanted to know if, Mr. Harris, if you could go back to the plans, because when I looked at your exhibit packet, it showed an existing plan and then a proposed plan for common space in the basement with like a kitchenette and a bathroom.

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So it looks like there was a unit proposed down there and that parking, which is required in the RSA 3 district, is being removed.

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So I'm just a little bit confused as to why those plans were included in the packet.

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Let's see here.

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That certainly would have been an error because we have the testimony of the owner that he plans on using this solely the basement area as just parking.

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So if a revision is needed.

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Yeah, I was going to say, so I believe that's the existing, and then there was the next page that was proposed plans there.

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Yes, I, yeah, I see that.

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Can you make that bigger?

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Sure.

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Hold it.

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Jermaine, you're saying that

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that plan was a mistake?

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Hold on.

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I am...

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Well, it certainly shows it as a common area.

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Yeah, it has it as common area.

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It shows it as storage and.

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Yeah, common area storage.

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That's what I'm looking at.

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And not garages.

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It appears that the required parking is then being removed, which is not included on the current application.

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The current application is only for a duplex.

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so if if your client is proposing to remove the parking and replace it with storage space that

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will need to be done with a separate application right there's storage space and common living

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area too because that's a kitchen and a lounge yes also these plans should be updated to reflect

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the current condition and not a future condition right so if you need the plans reflected to

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to go with I guess to be consistent with what the testimony of the use of the intended use

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is going to be we can submit that we can submit the plans for that

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We can submit that. We can submit the plans for that.

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But that's that. I believe there was an existing plan, though, that showed the go up back up one slide.

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I believe it showed the existing conditions, but then it shows proposed conditions, which are not listed on the refusal.

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Let's see here. So it's more an elimination of the proposed.

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sheet

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right because it has the garage here

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but that's

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and I believe

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and Mr. Torres is that what the

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intention

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of this is to be is to remain

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