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ZBA Hearing - June 15, 2022

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Jun 15, 20223h 59m

We updated plans this afternoon.

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I know there's a draftsman error,

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so we just want to make sure we have the correct plans.

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Yes, I did receive those.

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Thank you.

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You're welcome.

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So as you can see,

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what we try to do with 39-20-22

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do is emulate the look and feel of this part of the city. I personally don't live too far away. I

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live in the Fairmont section of Philadelphia, so I get off the Girard Avenue exit all the time off

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of the Scoople, and so I'm familiar with this area. This is a porch neighborhood. This is a CMX1

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property, and they have mansard roofs, so we really did embrace the architectural feel, and

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After talking to the community and their insistence on preserving or encouraging the commercial corridor on Girard Avenue, that's when we agreed to re-include or include the commercial component, as well as the porches, as well.

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Hold on a second. Let me just go full screen.

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So, in our presentation materials, we have our notices of refusal, our letter of support

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from the Centennial Parkside Community Development Corporation.

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For your information, this was a heavily attended meeting.

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I would estimate it had at least 20 people, I think closer to 30 people who were participating

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in that meeting, and after discussions and modifications to our project, we did gain

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their support. We have the Zoning Board of Adjustment revised proviso plan forms, one for

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each project. As we indicated, we gave Ms. Emerson that updated information this afternoon. The

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Philadelphia 2035 plan, it conforms with what that plan states in this part of Philadelphia

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that plan states in this part of Philadelphia to encourage in-fail development, but also to

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to encourage infail development.

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encourage commercial use. I've been in front of this board on a number of occasions in this part

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of the state of Philadelphia, including Girard Avenue. And time and time again, the Planning

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Commission has indicated that they want to encourage that commercial component, the commercial

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use, not only on Girard Avenue, but 40th Street. And this project accomplishes that, not only by

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including the commercial component on the ground floor, but also by that to have that type of

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density of six units each to help support that commercial border on a lot size that's almost

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3,000 square feet. We have used registration permits showing that this property has had a

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multifamily history, both of them, maps of the area, photographs of the property, our plans and

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drawings, RCO meeting notices, along with proof of mailing of those notices to the affected

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properties, our deeds to the property, showing that H&M developments LLC is the owner of the

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property, our applications for appeal that we filed with the ZBA, and our certificates of tax

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clearance showing that we're in good standing with respect to real estate taxes as to this property.

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And then we also have Ghazi I-7, the owner's representative, who at the conclusion of my

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presentation will adopt my testimony, and then we'd be more than happy to take any questions

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for the board. So first things first, you know, 3920 actually has mixed zoning of CMX1 and RSA5.

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So, you know, it's really hard to comply with the zoning code just for that split zoning reason.

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So what we're looking to do is, you know, include, you know, a six unit multifamily use on the upper

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floors of two three and four um as part of the ground floor as well as a commercial and then

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39 22 um i it's unclear whether it has mixed zoning it says cmx one adjacent to rsa five

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but again we're close to uh rm1 so if this was an rm1 property this the amount of square footage

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of the lot is substantial almost 3 000 square feet we it would be allowed as as of right either

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way we are putting commercial component in a cmx1 property to encourage that commercial use and to

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further encourage that commercial use with increasing density in a neighborhood that is

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in need of residents to help support that commercial corridor plus we're on the trolley

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line as well with the public transportation so that type of density can be handled through public

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transportation. And then a letter of support. It's short and sweet. The Centennial Parkside RCO

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supports the applicant's variance for the above reference case. Pretty straightforward. I mean,

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we did have a passionate meeting with approximately 20 to 30 residents. And after

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having negotiations with our changes to the project, including adding the commercial component,

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adding a porch, making sure that, you know, we have, you know, confirming that we have that

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mansard roof. They were very supportive of this project. And then there's our revised plans.

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So, you know, we handed this to Ms. Emerson. We have, you know, each, we have one for each

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uh property uh but you know they go as follows inclusion of a one vanilla box commercial space

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on the ground level inclusion of a porch to match adjacent properties reduction in the building depth

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to account for new porch and an increased lock coverage but not to exceed the required 75 percent

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and then here are our revised plans for each same thing

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and then the 2035 plan again we just got this straight from the 2035 plan for this part of

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philadelphia preserve neighborhood character with context sensitive and fell development so having

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that commercial component further enhanced uh you know the goal of this part of philadelphia

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is to encourage a commercial corridor along west gerard as well as increased density uh to support

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that commercial quarter on West Gerard as well as Fortier Street. And then permits for the property

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again in 1986. It looks like this was a multifamily structure when it was occupied

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property. Now it's a vacant lot. 3920 and 3922. And then just maps of the area. As you can see,

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we are cmx1 but we are adjacent to rm1 but it was very important as you get closer to 40th street

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there is a commercial corridor there and they wanted to have that commercial corridor essentially

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start from 39th street along gerrard to then snake around to 40th street

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along Gerrard to then snake around to 40th Street so you know with you know with their insistence

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on having a commercial quarter we granted that and you know we are excited about this project

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so again 3920 and 22 between 39th and 40th you know there's a small street on Union but these

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are substantial lots they're almost 3,000 square feet each and then here are the vacant lots you

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we try to maintain them well. West Girard to the right of their property, West Girard to the left

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of their property. We request the street obviously from the Fairmont Park. Memorial Hall is not far

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by and it's not uncommon to have multi-family. Again we're adjacent to RM1 as well but just to

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show you know how close you know just generally multi-families here is 3910 West Girard.

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and then our plans and drawings so uh again we are not seeking any dimensional variances

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for this property again these are rather or each of them are almost 3 000 square foot lots

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and then again we contextually from an architecture standpoint we try to match the

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look and feel of these properties. Again, we added porches to the front of these properties.

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We have commercial components on the ground floor, and we have mansard roof to kind of

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emulate the look and feel of this part of town with brick facade. And then just to quickly go

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through the floor plans, the ground floor is the upper section of the screen. You walk through a

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commercial corridor. This is the same as whether it's 3920 or 22. You have a front retail section

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here. The retail actually goes to the ground level as well. But to go to the commercial

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component, it has its own entryway. And we actually have a dedicated trash room as well

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for each of these properties, which was very important to the community as well to have a

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responsible trash storage and removal plan. Then we have a unit on the ground floor and the lower

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level, which is unit one, which is a two-bedroom, two-bath. You go up to the second floor and you

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to the left, you have a two-bedroom, one-bath. If you go to the right, it's a two-bedroom,

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two bath. You go to the third floor, you go to the left, it's a two bedroom, one bath. You go

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to the right, it is a two bedroom, one bath. And then finally, you have the, well, no, you have

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this as well, unit three, unit four is, you have one, two bedroom, two bath. And then to the right,

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do you have a two bedroom two mat and then we met with the community on april 26 2022 at 6 p.m

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there are 112 addresses notified of the community meeting these are listed the addresses

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addresses. These are the proof of mailing to those addresses. The RFCO meeting notice

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for the second property, 3922-113 addresses were notified. And proof of those notices

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is being mailed out, and then our deeds to their property, showing that H&M Development

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LLC is the own record property.

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That's a deed, I believe, for both of them.

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And with that being said, I'm now going to share my screen.

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We do have a certificate of tax clearance, which is also in the presentation materials.

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But I know this has been a rather long session, so I mean, I can always show it if you want.

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But we also give that beforehand to the board.

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Mr. Nockamson, this is this is Hillary again.

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So I just wanted to be clear. The commercial space is both part of the ground floor and part of the first floor.

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uh ground floor and the commercial space is the front of the of the ground floor

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um as well as a portion of the of the basement level okay so

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um as well as a portion of the basement level okay so well ground floor being first first

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floor being the first floor and basement okay i just want to make sure i have the wording right

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and i think um there was a page of plans that you showed a side section um that showed a little bit

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more where the exactly where the commercial space was i think we'll need to stamp that page as well

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as the page that that you had submitted so that it's clear exactly where the the commercial space

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is yeah let me just see hold on a second sure updated drawings maybe to try to include it all

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on one rather than have it but hold on let me just see let me see where we are

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so hillary that'll be revised plans two pages for each one well let's let's see what alan has and

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Maybe we fix it and there's just one that can be shown on one.

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So that's what we're just checking.

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Yeah, let me take a look.

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Yeah.

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Well, I see the site plan has it, the ground floor, it has the first floor envelope.

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It doesn't mention the lower level, the basement level.

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will that be necessary if we just say ground floor and first floor and basement level

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is the entire basement commercial no a portion is residential okay because what i was going to

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suggest for um a proviso is that it just say vacant commercial space um on the first floor

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and basement as per stamped plans so that it's clear exactly where the space is so i don't mind

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stamping an extra page of plans there was one page that you showed that was that was clearer

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that's fine to stamp two yeah um

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why don't we just do two pages yeah there was there was a second page in your your packet that

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i saw that that showed it better than the the other page so i'll just i'll yeah i can just

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Yeah, and maybe what we can do is we can always fix it too.

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I just want to make sure it's everything's accurate.

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So we'll figure out what the second page is going to look.

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We'll obviously make sure it's accurate.

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And Mr. Chair, I just sent you language for the provisos, the revised language.

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So you have that for both cases if you grant.

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uh yes um so if mr at a seven can virtually raise his hand to adopt my testimony

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hi could you state your name and spell please for the court reporter

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hi my name is gazi joe at a seven g-a-z-i joe at a c-v-m right do you swear or affirm to tell

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the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth yes i do mr chamber proceed yes mr out of seven

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you heard everything i stated today i heard that yes and is it true and correct yes and do you

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adopt it as your own testimony yes all right thank you questions from the board no mr chairman

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no mr chairman no mr chairman questions or comments from the virtual audience

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i see no hands chair planning commission sorry chair that's okay fine

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we have one hand up if you want to hear okay sure all right could you state your name and

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spell for the court reporter hi my name is james harrow h-a-r-r-e uh i'm the project designer for

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this that's working along with alan and joe i just wanted to chime in on the wait one minute let me

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swear you in yeah sorry you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the

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truth i do spell your last name for the court reporter please sure hara h-a-r-r-e all right

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okay mr knockamson do you want him to testify oh of course i mean he's the architect so i'm sure

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he's going to clarify and say um mr knockamson please give the right drawings no um we do include

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on the site plan of the revised zoning sheet, not the schematic package that Alan presented,

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but the actual zoning sheet that we submitted for the ZBA stamp. It does show on the site plan

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the extents of the first four vanilla box commercial space. I'm not sure if that would

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help clear up the issue you were having with the location of the commercial space or not,

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but just wanted to point that out too for the record.

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yeah i'm mr hare though i think they're the concern they just want to clarify because there

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is some there is the commercial space does extend to the uh basing level

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there is the commercial space does extend to the uh basement level right that is correct uh i do

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know that i just wasn't sure if that would have been required via the proviso because the uh

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zoning restrictions for the commercial space are limited to the first floor of the building

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and does not include the basement i believe uh based on the wording of the zoning code okay

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so if if we if we just said vacant commercial space on ground floor based on this the site plan

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that should be sufficient i just don't want to get it uh messed up at the you know the building

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permit stage yeah i mean uh i believe so but again uh i mean if uh the zba's attorney uh

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feels differently and prefer to you know market separately to make it more clear i'm not objected

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against that i i think because the commercial technically extends the the basement area is

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split between the residential and the commercial i think we just need to clarify what uses are

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on what on what floors so i thank you planning planning commission

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hi mr chair members of the board uh my testimony for both uh 30 not this makes an awesome

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representing the plan question by testimony for both 3922 West Gerrard and 3920 West Gerrard are

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the same. These properties are designated for single-family residential use in the comprehensive

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plan but remapped to CMX1 in 2017. Whereas the zoning is intended to help reinforce the character

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of the remaining twin homes in the block while introducing the optional ground floor retail,

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option of ground floor retail, multi-family housing is appropriate on this wide avenue by

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Fairmount Park. PCPC staff appreciates the design and inclusion of retail in the modified plans to

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support these goals, but even the next most dense commercial designation, CMX2, would only permit

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five units on this site. Consequently, staff of the planning commission supports the granting of

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this variance with the further provisal that would be limited to five units on each site.

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Mr. Nakamura, do you want to respond to that? Yeah, so that was why I showed the zoning map.

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we are adjacent to RM1.

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If we were on the next block,

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this project would be allowed as a right

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with no commercial component.

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And we comfortably fit the six units

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on this almost 3,000 square foot lot.

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Plus the additional units

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are going to help increase

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the viability of the commercial corridor

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there even further.

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Plus non-zoning related

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provides more affordability

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to residents having six units versus five.

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I know that's not zoning related,

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But, you know, that's the thought process behind that.

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MI 2020, MI 2022, 001-690-3920, West Sherrod Avenue.

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Revised plans, one page, five units.

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MI.

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