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ZBA Hearing - July 28, 2026

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Jul 28, 20262h 34m

My name is Chris Otten, Philly Otters.

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I'm trying to open a store.

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Do me a favor.

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Do me a favor.

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Could you spell your last name for this?

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I'm from O-T-T-E-N.

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All right.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth?

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Nothing but the truth.

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Could you give us two minutes of your views?

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Yes.

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Land use is your purview, and that's what I wanted to talk about today.

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My name is Chris Otten.

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I'm trying to open a store on South Street.

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I haven't actually proceeded with that.

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I've signed the lease, but I cannot open the store because of this project.

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I'm quite worried about it.

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We're talking about a land use intensity.

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This is an RM1 zone land use intensity.

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This is housing.

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These are customers that might attend my store.

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Okay.

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To the proposed and what 20 people do just by right versus 200 plus people every day,

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delivery trucks, serving the kitchen, serving the kids, events at night.

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Now, I want to collect, I want to correct the record because I believe the lawyer here

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next to me um suggested that this was a two-lane trafficked road just feet south of the school it

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bottlenecks to one lane as it hits south street you can imagine with all of this activity that's

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not by right uh it would really bottleneck that road and those businesses are going to hurt

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i myself along with the two rcos along with tens of businesses along south street are opposed to

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this and uh let me just conclude with i have this permit here that shows in 2016 they were ready to

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demolish the site. That perceived hardship, the alleged hardship about not demolishing the

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building, they had this permit in 2016, so now they want to project that hardship on us.

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They have that. They had this permit in 2016. So now they want to project that hardship on us. It's not fair.

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Thank you very much for coming in. We appreciate it. Good morning, sir.

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Could you please state your name and spell it for the stenographer? Yes. Good morning.

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My name is Loren Ostroff, L-O-R-E-N-O-S-T-R-O-F-F.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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I do and I'm also speaking I'm speaking in favor of the project as a both of my daughters

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graduated from the preschool and also have gone on to thrive at Jewish day schools an hour away

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from here so I do have a short poem for you a school for our future we call it in a city built

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on neighborhoods where generations have found a place to belong we ask you today to help us build

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a future where our children can grow strong on eighth street a building stands waiting for new

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life a new beginning not merely walls but classrooms filled with children learning growing

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and dreaming a school is more than brick and stone it is where a child discovers who they are

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where knowledge becomes a guiding light and where young hearts learn to reach for the stars

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philadelphia has always made room for schools for faith for community and here in this diverse and

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vibrant neighborhood, we seek to add another thread to the tapestry. A Jewish school open to

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the future, rooted in heritage, values, and pride, where children learn to carry forward the

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traditions that have sustained us through the tide. We ask for your approval, not simply for

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a building, but for a vision, a promise, a place to belong for the children who will walk through

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these doors and the generations who will follow them along. Let this vacant building become a

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place of light let learning faith and community take flight let us build a school that strengthens

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this neighborhood and helps make philadelphia's future bright and brighter and right we ask you

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to say yes not only to the school but to the children whose future begins within its walls

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the first of its kind in the city thank you very much anyone else in their audience

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questions or comments from the virtual audience

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yes chair we have two hands up so far the first is carl fritton will be allowed to speak all right

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good morning could you please state your name and spell it for the stenographer

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uh good morning sir thank you my name is carl k-a-r-l fritton f-r-i-t-t-o-n

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great do you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth

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Yes, I do.

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Sir, could you give us your two minutes of a viewpoint?

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Yeah, I'll give you less than that, sir.

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My wife and I live and own at 727 Bradford Alley, less than 150 feet from the dilapidated rundown parking garage.

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As articulately stated by a number of others before me,

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my wife and I view that the replacement of that garage with a well-thought-out educational school

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for kids K-8 is largely preferable to what's there now. I don't see it as an easy thing to

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reject. It's been an ugly, unsightly, unsafe building for years, for the 10 years that we've

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lived there, replacing it with an educational school when we all know that Philadelphia needs

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all the good educational programs it can get, should be entirely supported by our neighbors,

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And my wife and I do without reservation. So we hope that the board will approve the project. Thank you very much for taking the time to calls. Next hand, please.

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Okay. Next is Anita Brazil. Okay. Good morning.

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next hand please anita brazil can you unmute yourself i am unmuted all right good morning

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could you please state your name and spell it for the stenographer of course thank you anita

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A-N-I-T-A Brazil. B-R-A-Z like zebra. I-L-L. Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth,

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the whole truth, nothing but the truth? I do. Could you give us two minutes of views?

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I'm at 735 Bradford Alley, the nearest neighbor on Bradford Alley to the proposed school. Like

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Carl Fritton and many other of my neighbors on Bradford Alley, I warmly, enthusiastically,

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and wholeheartedly welcome the use of that building for a faith-based school. I know the

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school on Lombard Street. I see the population. They are our neighbors and friends. I would like

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to see the vibrancy of a school and the promise of the future in this neighborhood. If you choose

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to live in the city, and in this part of the city, we accept noise traffic disruption. It's going to

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it's going to occur so i don't expect that the life i had in the suburbs where it was quiet

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occur. So I don't expect that the life I had in the suburbs

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but not vibrant is going to be the same the school will bring vibrancy and i encourage the board

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to approve this project so that we can all live together in peace and prosperity as neighbors

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thank you very much for taking the time to close we appreciate it is there another hand

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yes Eugene last name it beginning with a D okay yeah good morning sir could you

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please state your name and spell for the stenographer yes that's uh Eugene the

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fiat Nick e u g e n e d e s y a t and I k do you swear or firm to tell the truth

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the whole truth nothing but the truth Thank You Commissioner I do thank you

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chair if I did yes please proceed I think most schools have some degree of events that happen

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outside of school hours to further they do that to further its mission of building a school

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community and engaging parents so I see that in harmony with with the school this and the

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residential use I also see that as a benefit I live in a couple of blocks down seven you know

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700 block of south 8th street and i'm also involved with my civic in my experience a continuous

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presence a door to knock on day or night actually helps not hurts to address any potential issues

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you can come and talk to your neighbors that way um in my opinion the applicant i've seen

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you know this project evolve the there's been work done to iterate the design to address

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specific concerns and at this point i think we should allow this project to move forward thank

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you thank you very much for calling we appreciate it next hand gabrielle howard okay we'll be allowed

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to speak good morning gabrielle

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sorry can you hear me now i can could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer

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gabriel howard g-a-b-r-i-e-l howard h-o-w-a-r-d you swear or affirm that tell the truth the whole

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truth nothing but the truth yes uh could you give us your two minute viewpoint yes i am for this

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project i've lived at eighth and lombard i'm a near neighbor i've lived there for almost 20 years

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I moved there as a single bachelor living in town, and now I'm a father, a married father of three.

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I've watched both of my sisters who lived right nearby me move out of the city in search of better schooling.

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I myself send my kids to public school as well as to B'nai Abraham preschool.

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I've sent them.

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um we understand my wife and i both understand the challenges this project might you know

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bring up into our corner it might lead to some more traffic challenges but as i drive throughout

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the city i drive through many schools i don't look at it as um something that annoys me anymore

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but i can see the vibrancy of the city young families out and i think that that's what the

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city really needs to attract to keep these great young minds into the city. Rabbi Goldman and his

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wife Leah have been unbelievable to help keep us in center city Philadelphia and give us a

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community of great people. And I just see this project continuing to build on many great

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relationships. I think we'll see our parks continue to fill up with people. And I am

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completely for this project even though i live nearby thank you very much for taking the time

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the calls next hand i see no more hands here okay um so lynn i think what we we can do we can

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bring up um mr steinberg and finish his uh see how much how much longer do you think you need

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Thank you, Mr. Snyberg.

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Okay.

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Oh, sure.

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Right.

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I just, my laptop is back.

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your chair i'd like to call up my client sean sullivan sure mr sullivan have it over here

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Sure. Mr. Sullivan, how about over here?

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Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Good morning, sir. If you would get close to the mic,

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could you please state your name as spelled for the stenographer?

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Certainly. Sean Sullivan. That's S-E-A-N-S-U-L-L-I-V-A-N.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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I do, Mr. Chairman.

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Counsel?

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Sure. Thank you. Good morning, Sean.

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can you tell the board where you reside please sure lombard muse house number 17. and how long

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have you lived there since april 2020. okay and can you just describe for the board what it's

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like living there it's a wonderful place to live i live there with my wife kidey our 11 year old son

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even though we're in the middle of the city and we have all the access to all the great

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things the city offers because of the structure of the lombard muse it winds up being a really

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nice quiet place to live even with stuff going on south street from our house we don't hear

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things my son's able to get his homework done it's a really beautiful quiet place to live

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okay um i'm not sure how i share my screen do i just share my screen if i want to pull up

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Sean, I'm pulling up an exhibit that we submitted the other day.

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There are two letters from Mr. Bonnie dated March 2nd, 2026, which was two days prior to the initial hearing.

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Are you familiar with those letters?

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I am.

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and were those letters written in support or opposition to the application in opposition okay

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and is that why you didn't attend the first zoning board hearing because your association

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was in opposition that's correct i had no expectation at that point that i'd need to

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be personally involved okay and are you familiar with the development agreement that was entered

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into between lumbar muse and the applicant yes i am sorry i don't have that

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i think mr bonnie submitted it last evening as an exhibit i don't have it readily available but

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um we we we have it you have it okay um have you reviewed that agreement i have okay and how did

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you vote on that agreement? I voted no. And why? I have a number of concerns about the project.

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First, I think the building is just too big as it's proposed right now.

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Substantial portions of it reach over 55 feet in height. It's going to tower over our homes

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and our neighborhood. I have a lot of concern about noise, especially from all the non-educational

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events that are permitted under the agreement. There are non-educational events that are permitted

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every day of the week, on weekends, outdoor

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amplified music until 8 p.m. at night. I'm concerned about how that will

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impact our quality of life.

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The agreement is for itself.

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I mean, with all due respect.

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I understand your objection, but why don't we just continue this?

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I'll take that into consideration.

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Besides the school, what other uses are you referring to?

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uh the agreement permits weddings bar and bar mitzvahs with lunches served with liquor served

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with no limit on the number of events uh it permits uh various religious celebrations

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both indoor and one week long outdoor um a an annual fundraising banquet so from my perspective

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this is a building that's going to be used it's not just as a school during school hours but it's

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going to be used evenings weekends um so the intensity of use isn't just the school okay

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and do you have an outdoor space in your home i do can you describe that for us uh off of our

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third floor we have a terrace uh facing east directly across from the garage building on the

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terrace we have uh an outdoor container garden where we grow eggplant uh peppers tomatoes we

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have a grill we have outdoor dining space and and where is that in relation to this proposed

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development it's directly across from it from my terrace i can look out and i can see over the roof

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of the garage building so i have an east view right now uh looking out over the garage building

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and with the penthouse that's proposed and the pilot house would that impact your

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light yeah it'll loom over our over our terrace um it's directly across from us it'll look

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directly down onto us um so i have no doubt it will impact our light okay are you concerned about

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Um, so I have no doubt it will impact our light. Okay. Are you concerned about any other impacts this might have to you? I'm concerned about lots of privacy. You know, the third floor of our house is where my son does his homework. He practices piano. He reads up there. Um, anybody on the roof deck or the pilot house will be looking directly into our third floor and onto our terrace.

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have you spoken to neighbors about this project i have i've attended community meetings uh i was

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one of the folks who went around and canvassed door-to-door in the neighborhood particularly

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focused on near neighbors and what did you uh sense from all that folks i talked to substantially

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more that i talked to were opposed uh than in support um so i just want to we we submitted

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a couple petitions one last night which was an online petition which is in your package

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um let's see are you aware whether the applicants have made any posts about this project on social

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media i am and how would you describe those posts uh there were some uh there's a facebook

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and instagram post related to a fundraiser for a capital campaign for the project which describes

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it both as a school and as a community center as a center for jewish life so to me it strikes me

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it's clearly not being planned it's just a school it's much much broader than that

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right and if this project were just a school that otherwise complied with zoning would you

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have any objection to it if the traffic problems were alleviated and it was just a school if it

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wasn't this hulking looming residence i'd have no objection at all okay i have no further questions

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your cross-examination well um i think to close we may take written comments okay

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uh we both submitted memos of law so that's okay yeah we already have that okay

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And also, in the record, rather than cross-examining and taking the time, you'll see the agreement, which speaks for itself, you'll see the plans, you'll see the shadow studies, you'll see all the expert reports that are contrary to what this layperson has just said.

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