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ZBA Hearing - January 15, 2025

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Jan 15, 20258h 11m

misled you about what i was going to go through beforehand so you're probably trying to

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catch up um so this is just a typical um project that the frankles have done this just shows the

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good quality work the exterior is a beautiful brick facade um if you go up

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this is typical backyard of some of the other projects that the frankles have done in partnership

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with Turn the Key. These were just exterior pictures. I'm sorry, interior pictures. Again,

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just showing the bedrooms. This is a picture of the kitchen. See the beautiful stainless steel

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appliances. This is a picture of typical dining room area. Living room. Oh, that's a bedroom.

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Again, just a larger size of the appliances. Another picture of the exterior.

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and then if you want to go to oh and this was a picture of the the rendering

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was rendering it just showing again um typical to what frinkle enterprises is doing and then

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if you want to pull up tab 11 i'll just go through the floor you said something about a floor plan

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yeah oh um you're right there

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so it's probably 73. there it is yeah

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all right if you you're just there yeah those three i think okay so if you can blow that up

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74 there we go

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okay so if you walk into the first walk into the front door you immediately walk into the living

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room then there's that kitchen dining room and then there's a door that leads out to the backyard

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typical to the backer that i just showed pictures of if you want to go to page 75

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that's a typical second floor two bedroom two bedrooms two pretty oversized bedrooms

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the bath and then if you go to the third floor

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there's a bedroom a bath and then you get out onto the roof deck from there

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um my clients did meet with the affected rco for this property the jefferson manor um

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on december 11th they did receive a letter of support thank you they received a letter

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on december 11th they did receive a letter of support thank you they received a letter of

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support which i provided to the board a tab two of my exhibit package um also provided which would

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probably be page three or four there we go great perfect um that's just a letter of support that

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was provided by the affected rco tab three we provided a letter of non-opposition from councilman

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Jeffrey Young's office. Just to briefly run the board through the variant standard. The application

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that's being presented today is not going to injure the use of adjacent property. Currently,

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this is a vacant lot that we're going to be constructing these single-family homes on.

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It will not increase the congestion in the streets. These are single-family homes that

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neighborhood is in support of it will not burden the public facilities nor negatively impact the

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public health in fact or the general welfare the contrary we're taking a vacant lot which

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can frequently be a site of drug use or other crime and we're going to be putting these beautiful

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single-family homes on it the fact that it's supported by the rco and the affected council

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person i think speaks the fact that this is clearly something that the community and the

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council person views as a benefit to the community um with me this afternoon is uh zach frankel

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frankel enterprises if the board would like me to come forward yep uh zach are you listening this

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afternoon or max frankel i have been about to speak i am here yes i could you please it's

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could you please state your name and spell for the sonographer my name is zachary frankel that's

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spelled Z-A-C-H-A-R-Y-F-R-A-N-K-E-L.

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Do you swear or affirm that tell the truth,

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the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Please proceed, counsel.

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Mr. Frankl, did you have an opportunity

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to hear my testimony this afternoon?

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I did.

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And was everything that I said true and accurate?

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It was.

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And is there anything that you would like to add to the board?

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No.

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Okay.

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I would ask, would you like to adopt my testimony as your own?

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Yes.

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if the board has any questions questions from the board i have a question so considering that all

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the refusals are around the light lot line consolidation do you have the lot line

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consolidation plan that was presented for opa i do i have the lot line consolidation

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relocation is at tab 12 okay yeah oh i do not know what page of the pdf that is i apologize

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us. It's tab 12. So it would be after me and Hillary, can we, can we in the future have

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appellants tab their PDFs so that they have a table of contents and you can jump to each

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tab?

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April Lincoln.

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I think I saw something.

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There it is.

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Thank you.

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Can we just zoom out a little bit?

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So understanding how the properties are laid out

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and that you're asking for a smaller than typical lot,

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do you know how big the backyards are?

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backyards it should be on the zoning plan and i believe also that our project engineer

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is on um just because it's going to be hard for me to on this pdf that i've printed out

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pull that number for you um let's see

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zach would you happen to know the size of the backyards yeah they're fairly generous our homes

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are 33 feet deep so you would have a backyard that's at least 15 feet deep in the smallest

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instance or 13 feet deep in the smallest instance by 16 feet wide so in the smallest instance the

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backyard would be um be 200 feet which is pretty big

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and then just wondering was there any thought when um doing the consolidation plan to do less

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units to try to get closer to the 1440 square feet per lot no the rationale behind the lot size

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is that the city's goal is to maximize affordable housing um this this plan maximizes affordable

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housing on site while still providing a really generous quality of outdoor space and space

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for each lot.

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I mean, we are still providing wider than your typical row.

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We are still providing wider than your typical row home, larger than your typical rear yard, as well as a roof deck.

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So there's no lack of quality of light and air.

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And then again, the city's goal on this site conveyed by the land bank was to maximize the number of affordable housing units.

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We responded to a city-issued request for proposals

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and were awarded that by the land bank based off of this proposal.

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Okay, I also see the proposed alley on the plan.

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I'm just wondering, is the plan to run utilities in the alley or in the street side?

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No, no utilities get run in the alley.

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All utilities come in through the street.

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So the alleys are really just for, like, security?

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Legal egress.

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No, legal egress.

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Oh, that's for the legal egress.

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Okay.

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any other questions from the board

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questions or comments from our attorney hillary emerson not at this time mr chair

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questions or comments from anyone in the audience

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questions or comments from the virtual audience

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planning commission do not see any further hands mr chair

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no hands planning commission

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thank you chairman and good afternoon david vecto f-e-c-t-e-a-u with the city planning

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commission do you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth

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yes sir i do please proceed thank you uh chairman and board members the comprehensive plan recommends

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no change to the rsa5 residential single-family zoning at this location the city rezoned ludlow

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in 2017 and a community supported map change at that time these parcels were zoned rm1

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residential multi-family the appellant requests relief from the minimum lot area requirement in

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the rsa5 district the proposed lot sizes are in keeping with the lot sizes in the 1500 block of

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north 9th street this part of this project is part of a city sponsored turn the key program

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which provides enforceable affordable dwelling units the city planning commission recommends

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the board grant a proposed dimensional variance for minimum lot size mi 2024 006 951 1501 to 13

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north night street i vote yes with proviso revised plans one page stamped by zba january 15 2025.

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cheryl gaston my vote is yes with proviso tenetta graham my vote is yes with proviso

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tya win my vote is yes with proviso uh council yeah i just question um i don't didn't submit

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revised plans was this 1501 oh i did because the lot lines were off okay thank you

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apologize i got a little nervous okay so m number 14 mi 2024 007 224 just for the record could you

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please state your name sure augusta o'neill that's it 1538 north darien street there's a letter of

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support from jefferson manor a letter of non-opposition from council member young our

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vice chair has a few questions good afternoon council do you agree to waive the reading of

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the refusal or stipulate to attack i do um any update or refusal was issued this morning thank

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you uh have you emailed in all the required documents and exhibits as needed uh and required

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to proceed this case updates and answer this hearing i did thank you council already shared

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your screen thank you so much i'll try and go a little slower this time just to give you a chance

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to catch up um again my name is august o'neill with the law firm of claire harrison i'm here

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this afternoon representing fe darien llc the owners of the property at 1538 north darien street

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This is an RSA 5 zone property. Currently, it is a vacant lot. It's an application, again, in partnership with Turn the Key, similar to the application that the board just heard.

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This is an application to bring new affordable homes to the city. The board has seen me here several times with similar applications.

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This particular application is to adjust lot lines to create two lots from three lots and to construct two single-family homes with roof decks on those lots.

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This project did receive a refusal pursuant to Section 14-5292A of the Code because the minimum required lot size at this location in this overlay is 1,440 square feet.

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As you can see, we're proposing 723.384 square feet.

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Again, the property is comprised currently of three separate lots, those being 1538 North Darien, 1540 North Darien, and 1542 North Darien.

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Despite the smaller lot sizes that we're proposing here, again, similar to the last application, these are still fairly large houses.

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fairly large houses. As you can see at tab eight of the exhibit package that I provided,

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As you can see at tab 8 of the exhibit package that I...

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which is my zoning plan.

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you're going to see a tax clearance certificate there we go perfect okay so as you can see

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from the zoning plan that's up on the screen these homes are each about 1500 square feet in size

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tab 9 the next tab on this presentation again just has that typical rendering showing what these

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affordable projects look like that the frankles have partnered with turn the key for

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tab 10 again has those sample exterior and interior pictures again showing beautiful

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brick facade of a typical frankel home you go down one these are just pictures of the interior

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this is that first floor as you're coming into the home on the left that's what you're seeing

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the stainless steel appliances that are provided there again on the right you can see the

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stainless steel appliances. This is the typical bedroom, typical dining room, and

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another picture of the living room area slash kitchen. Another standard bedroom.

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And here's just a picture of that larger sized yard. And just another sample

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picture of what an exterior project of these projects look like.

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Tab 11, again, just has those typical floor plans.

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You come in the front door, and you're immediately in the living room.

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Then there's a kitchen and a dining area in the back.

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And after the kitchen, there's a door that leads you into the backyard.

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You go down one.

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Typical second floor, two bedrooms and a bath.

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And then this is the typical third floor, the bedroom, a bath, and access to the roof deck.

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um provided tab 4 which you don't have to go to um i did provide some information about the turn

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the key program that the partner the frankles have partnered with um there's a lot of philadelphians

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who do benefit from these affordable homes um there's quite a long waiting list to to be able

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to benefit from from this program um i provided also at tab five um tab five just added some

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information about the frankles and the good work that they're doing in the city in partnership

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again with turn the key my clients did meet with the affected rco for this property the jefferson

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manor rco they met with them on december 11th i did provide a letter of support a tab two of my

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exhibit package as well as a letter of non-opposition from councilman jeffrey young

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just to briefly again go over the variance standard similar to the last application that

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I have in front of you. This is not going to be anything that

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introduce the use of adjacent properties. Again, this is a

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vacant lot that my clients are putting these beautiful,

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affordable homes on. It's not going to increase congestion in

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the streets or be a burden on the public utilities. It is like

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the last project, clearly a benefit to the neighborhood,

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which is why both the neighborhood and the councilman

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were in support of this application. We're taking a

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vacant lot which i did provide pictures of my exhibit package but which um leave to the board's

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imagination it's just just a vacant lot but like i said earlier these vacant lots are usually what

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the land bank or i'm sorry um yeah the land bank likes to have developers develop on because they

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can be the site of crime um in the city so with that being said i would like again to call mr

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frankel forward to adopt my testimony mr frankel you've already been sworn just for the record

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state your name mr frankel just for the record state your name zachary frankel z-a-c-h-a-r-y

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f-r-a-n-k-e please proceed counsel uh mr frankel did you have an opportunity to hear my testimony

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related to this application i did and was everything that i said true and accurate

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it was and do you wish to adopt my testimony as your own i do questions

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It was.

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And do you wish to adopt my testimony as your own?

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I do.

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Questions from the board.

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All right, similar to the last one, I do want to ask a question.

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Like, given that these are coming in smaller than the 1440 square feet, what are the dimensions on the rear yard?

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It's going to be the same as it was for the...

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They're smaller, though, so it's the same width, but it can't be the same depth because it's less square.

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this is actually an instance where we're taking three existing lots and rather than making three

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small homes we're making two larger homes with larger backyards that part i understood i think

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i'm just asking because it's less square footage per lot what the actual dimensions are between

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i can tell you yeah because the other ones were about 50 square feet larger at the smallest so i

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I just want to...

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I'll just tell you if the...

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I will tell you.

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There's a little over 100 square feet for the rear yard.

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And then for this one, is the roof deck the same square footage as the previous project?

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It is.

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