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ZBA Hearing - January 15, 2025

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Jan 15, 20258h 11m

Do you want to ask

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Your Chinese people

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When you bought this house

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In 2023, what did you buy this house?

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What did you decide to do?

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To do

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What did you say?

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To do it, right?

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rental property

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okay and then understanding that

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that purchase it was RSA 5

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that purchased it was RSA-5,

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so it was owned a single family

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so it's owned as a single family.

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did they intend to rent it as

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Did they intend to rent it as a single family home?

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I'm planning to make it as two single units.

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So two different, you know, like family or people can live in there.

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I didn't understand the current plan, but I was just wondering, at sale, what was the plan, knowing that the basement, or the first floor, sorry, the ground floor had been previously used as a doctor's office, but it is on a single family residential.

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Okay, I'm sorry, I need to clarify something with him, this interpreter.

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他的意思就是说

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你租给就是一个租约

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还是两个租约

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就是你下面只是一个租约

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一个租约就是一个家庭住

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或者一个租约一个人住

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那两个租约就变成两个分开的

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所以你到底你是要做什么

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我就是楼上一个家庭

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我就是想把诊所改成

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也是一个租给一对夫妻这样子的

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一个

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What I was thinking about is

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you know, the upstairs, I will rent it out, you know, for a family, and then downstairs will be

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like also maybe a couple, right? So maybe a couple up there. So it would be two units, different.

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Okay, and then what is the property maintenance plan at the site?

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I'm sorry, I can't hear you. I'm sorry, what is their property maintenance plan for the site?

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那你想打算怎么去管理这个单位呢

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你要清洁

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因为如果我租出去

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我会要求楼下这个人

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他门口的卫生他要搞清楚

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因为他一到秋天的时候

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风很多都吹过来

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很多人过路没有数字

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垃圾都是扔在我那边

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我会要求客人把我门口清理干净

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但是因为我下面没有租出去

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也是停在那里

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然后我有过去搞一下为什么

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是后来没有看到

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我有去住

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但是他没看到

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风一直往那边吹

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那边地势很低

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风一直把垃圾往这边吹

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为什么很多树叶都吹到我家门口来

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就是这样子嘛

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Yeah, because now what happens is

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What's happening is

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No one lives there now, it's vacant

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So no one can do the cleaning work

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I go there sometime

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But they didn't see me, okay

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But you know, once I lease it out

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i would talk to the tenant and ask them to clean up to do things right because now no one's there

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so the wind will blow everything to or that direction and accumulating you know all type

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of trash but um i i did i i went there sometime but they didn't see me i don't know i understand

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that he's not there now i think my question is more so what is the intent and plan when there

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are tenants i think also understanding that when this was purchased there was a commercial space

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that was not at the time legal under its current state on the first floor

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and just wanting to understand like what was the plan for the property and purchase

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and what is the plan for it for maintenance moving forward

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given the comments that have come from the community

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对 就是你应该买的时候你就知道下面就是一个商用的

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那现在有很多人投诉嘛 说不干净

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然后当你买你想租租的时候

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那你到底是你的计划说要怎么去维持那些整洁干净呢

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你的计划是什么要怎么做

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就是确保那里是干净

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我确保就是我有计划把它租出去以后

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如果它下面变成一个竹琴

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我把盘贴那个土变成了水泥

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然后以后它直接那扫会比较干净一点

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因为中间那些土嘛

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它很容易滋生,很多人就是过路把垃圾都是扔在那边土里面嘛,然后如果把这些变成了水泥,然后看过去会清洁一下,然后分吹那边呢,我肯定就是也要把后面那个门给换一下,因为不行的嘛,分的就是吹在那里嘛,很多垃圾分吹过来,再说这里人来人往,很多人都是不知道为什么都是垃圾随处扔,

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So, a lot of people don't know why.

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They don't know why.

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They don't know why.

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They don't know why.

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Now, I'll forgive you

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They don't know why.

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They don't know why.

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They don't know why.

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So, two things I'm going to do.

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One thing is, you know, the muddy area, I'm going to change it, turn it into like concrete,

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you know, cement, right?

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Make it like easier to manage and make it very clean.

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And then another thing is I'm going to fix that door, close it, and also like make sure

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my tent will clean up well.

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And also like, because now, because, you know, a lot of wind blowing.

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So, you know, keep pushing all the trash to it that way.

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So we'll definitely do something to make it nice.

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The question is from the board.

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Oh, okay.

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Actually, I have one more question.

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So my last question is, as far as you understood,

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what was the last time that the doctor's office was in active use?

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I really don't know

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I didn't ask them

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when they were still practicing

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so after I bought it

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but I didn't ask him so I don't know

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questions from our

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attorney Hillary Emerson

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not at this time Mr. Chair

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comments from anyone in the audience

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can I speak again

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Sean can I speak again

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that's up to the chair

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Mr. Chair

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I want to speak to you

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stay your name

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how are you

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first laugh of it

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excuse me this is the court reporter i'm having difficulty hearing i know we don't have it on yet

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we should have now there we go i could you just state your name

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from the taconi civic association the rco spell your name please l-a-b-o-v-i-t-z right okay all

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right all right hold on hold on do you swear or affirm to tell the truth told truth nothing but

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the truth i do please proceed sir and we've had a lot of testimony about this let me ask you this

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are you for or against this project i am the rco okay all right okay all right all right we we go

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into the meeting as a mediator uh which i believe is how we're supposed to do that right um there

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was substantial opposition from the neighbors i think a lot of the problem was communication as

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can see with the translator it's difficult we had no translator at our rco meeting right so

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the issue that taya brought up about property management was something that

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we tried to address at the meeting i'm sorry

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and we couldn't get clarification about that because that was a concern okay uh

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are you in favor of this project so we were opposed to it because we couldn't get

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clarification on how the property would be managed because the main complaints were

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that there was a rodent issue that was trash which to me sounds property like a property

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management issue okay uh so that's why and because we couldn't get a clear answer

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it was tough to go on an assumption that someone promises that yeah we're going to do that but we

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really don't know because the communication just was not there so so i mean we appreciate you

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waiting around. A lot of what I would have said

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was what we said. I know. I just have to

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go ahead. Give me one more. I have to

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break soon. All right. A lot

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of... I waited since

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9 o'clock, so I'm good here. I know you did.

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I'm going to take a minute, so

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not long. A lot of properties similar

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to this from that area

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and west

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are CMX1 properties.

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This property across the street

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that you notice is a CMX1.

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The only multifamily

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properties that are on the Atlas

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are about two blocks away now joe the attorney for the applicant said there's other properties

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across the street i just checked on my phone there are some that say that they are not exempt

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from home uh taxes so my guess is they're multi-family and not owner-occupied the atlas

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isn't very clear about that and i don't take you i i just contacted someone to find out how i can

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do a better job at that. But the other end of this block, 4,200, I believe, or 4,222 is CMX1 also.

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And the first floor is a rented apartment. It's not commercial anymore. So I think a lot of that

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fear is that this property will turn into a triplex. Okay. Thank you. I just want to make

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that. Thank you very much. Thank you for your time. I appreciate you staying around. Is there

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anyone else in this? I'm sorry, Mr. Chair. This is the court reporter. I apologize. I did not get

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the witness's name clearly okay sure we'll do it again yeah i kind of brushed you that i apologize

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Chris Labovitz, L-A-B-O-V-I-T-Z, just like it sounds, thank you very much.

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chris labovitz l-a-b-o-v-i-t-z

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First name again? Chris, is there anyone? Sure. An interpreter, can you please interpret?

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Yeah.

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uh,

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類型的房子規格的

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就下面本來都是那種商用

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上面是居住

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然後啊,

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你的律師說隔壁其實也有一些

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那後來看到有些是有

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但是在過去幾個條街啊

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也有一些是改過的

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但是那些地方就是也是啊

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稅收稅的情況也不一樣啊

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所以其實這個東西就是說

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啊,

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沒有很好的溝通啦

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那主要就是解釋一下這個啊

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對,我知道

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Thank you very much

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Thank you very much

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Is there anyone in the virtual audience?

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I see no hands there the word Mr Ward I I'm really gonna have to break I mean we're getting ready

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for the next group to come in uh I was gonna ask the chair do you need anything else for me other

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than the fact that I think we understand where you are we understand where your witnesses were

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all right uh chair members of the board I thank you for your attention and uh you know consideration

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of this application planning commission the comprehensive plan recommends no change at this

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location from the current residential single family rsa5 the previous use for this proposed

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conversion was an accessory doctor's office in the lower level unit granted in 1946 this proposal

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would create a new residential unit in a space that was not previously used that way the planning

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commission recommends that the board deny the requested variance for a two-family residential

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